Does this take cheap shots like in Sonic 2?

[dentalfloss]

Where you have to memorize where hazards are, because there's no way to avoid them otherwise? The first Sonic game didn't have that much of that.

[-|Nur|-]

You mean is it like the Marble Garden Zone? No, it isn't.

[dentalfloss]

It's been a long time since I played 3, but I think you're talking about the same thing. I love the first Sonic because you have time to see and react to enemies and other perils, negating the need for blind trial and error.

[NBOX21]

It never gets anywhere near as bad as Metropolis Zone from Sonic 2, but there's still a bit of that present here and there, which honestly, the same can be said about pretty much every Sonic game ever made - even the best Sonic games have moments of cheap shots that you can't predict until you've replayed it multiple times.

BTW even Sonic 1 had those robots that come out of the ground in Labyrinth Zone that are incredibly hard to see coming on your first run.

[dentalfloss]

I actually never had any problem with those things. I always saw their drills poking out.

[Ikagura]

Sonic 2 ain't hard if you learn the levels.

[delta]

No cheap shots...or at least none that I can remember. I did play Sonic 2 and that was something I absolutely hated about that game...and I was pleasantly surprised to see Sonic Mania's level design was much improved.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Sonic 2 ain't hard if you learn the levels.

But then there's Metropolis Zone...

Originally posted by delta:

No cheap shots...or at least none that I can remember. I did play Sonic 2 and that was something I absolutely hated about that game...and I was pleasantly surprised to see Sonic Mania's level design was much improved.

Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) was also a drastic improvement over Sonic 2 in that regard, probably because in terms of level design and structure, Sonic 3 didn't feel nearly as rushed as Sonic 2 did.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Sonic 2 ain't hard if you learn the levels.

But then there's Metropolis Zone...

One level out of the 12 (or more, I didn't count all because Sky Chase + Wing Fortress + Death Egg is basically one big level like Hidden Palace + Sky Sanctuary in Sonic 3&K).

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by delta:

No cheap shots...or at least none that I can remember. I did play Sonic 2 and that was something I absolutely hated about that game...and I was pleasantly surprised to see Sonic Mania's level design was much improved.

Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) was also a drastic improvement over Sonic 2 in that regard, probably because in terms of level design and structure, Sonic 3 didn't feel nearly as rushed as Sonic 2 did.

And yet Sonic 3 got rushed. But yeah, one Sonic 3 Zone is equal about 3 Sonic 2 Acts (or just one Zone and a half) in term of length.