Remove DRM

[Hector_evil]

Remove Denuvo

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

I think it should be obvious by now they don't intend to ever remove it. If they did, they would have done it back when it was cracked...

[Radiocaster]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

I think it should be obvious by now they don't intend to ever remove it. If they did, they would have done it back when it was cracked...

[TheCoddFish]

SEGA seems to have some reluctance to remove Denuvo.

Personally, I think it's a bit of a shame that they decided to have it in the first place, but i'm not exactly the world's most knowledgeable on the internal workings of SEGA.

[Grog]

Keep Denuvo. it annoys crybabies

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Originally posted by TheCoddFish:

SEGA seems to have some reluctance to remove Denuvo.

Personally, I think it's a bit of a shame that they decided to have it in the first place, but i'm not exactly the world's most knowledgeable on the internal workings of SEGA.

Falling back on an excuse I've seen PS4 owners on Sony's community forums use to try to defend Sony's decision to ditch backwards compatibility, "Sega is a business. Businesses exist to make money." A lot of people refunded the game because of Denuvo. When you think about it, keeping it would be a bad business decision as implementing it to begin with cost them money and sales.

[Pingas]

You guys are still going on about Denuvo? Sure, Sonic Mania can function fine without it, but it's hardly an annoyance at all.

[Xander]

Giving another shout out for removing something that will at some point prevent people from playing the game they paid for. Maybe in ten years, maybe twenty, maybe in five or less. Nobody knows when..

.. but it is a killswitch. Please remove it sega.

[TheCoddFish]

Originally posted by Xander:

Giving another shout out for removing something that will at some point prevent people from playing the game they paid for. Maybe in ten years, maybe twenty, maybe in five or less. Nobody knows when..

.. but it is a killswitch. Please remove it sega.

This here is the main problem I have with Denuvo. If those servers go down, be prepared to say good-bye to your games...

And that includes the unknowledgeable, those who have no idea as to what is going on here.

[Liberator48]

How about you get a job instead of having to pirate games? Do*chebag.

[Miraglyth]

Originally posted by ☺:

How about you get a job instead of having to pirate games?

This isn't about piracy.

Denuvo has not protected Mania since the 4th of September. The only people who have yet to play Mania ever since that time are people who do not pirate.

This is about a refusal as consumers to support a failed anti-consumer dead man's switch.

No matter how little resources they're set up to need, Denuvo has authentication servers that need to be kept up. One day they won't exist. Maybe they have a fixed service contract, but all that does is set that day further into the future.

Sega will need to do something, sometime, to keep the game alive. They have said measures are in place but when pressed to give any kind of guarantee they refused to answer. That does not bode well.

People know this. Many of us refunded the game over it. Many more beyond that won't buy it it the first place, or will now wait until it has at least a 50% discount.

By keeping this toxic additive, Sega are likely throwing away more sales than they lost to the thing it's generally failing to prevent.

This is about the conscientious people who refuse to pirate, and want to be customers.

[Chocice75]

This is a replacement for that locked "ETA on Denuvo removal" thread... I think...

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Originally posted by ChocIce75:

This is a replacement for that locked "ETA on Denuvo removal" thread... I think...

Maybe that's why the mods didn't do anything. Closing one just results in another popping up. It's what happens when you try to cover up the issue (in this case, Denuvo being in the game even though they broke US consumer protection laws by staying silent about it during the entire preorder period, resulting in people not getting the PC version of Sonic Mania without Denuvo they believed they were getting) instead of properly fixing it.

[-|Nur|-]

Originally posted by Grog:

Keep Denuvo. it annoys crybabies

100% agree. All the autistic screeching over the issue makes it worth it.

[Miraglyth]

Originally posted by ChocIce75:

This is a replacement for that locked "ETA on Denuvo removal" thread... I think...

I think it's a nice opportunity to clean that slate and discuss the issue without all the ad hominem flaming that probably got it locked.

I'd like to talk about what we can do to make a constructive and fun appeal to Sega, with inspiration from the Bioware cupcakes campaign.

To that end I'm still interested in ideas, since I'm really struggling to come up with something good. I'd like to do something that would be both meaningful to the objection to Denuvo (its key renewal causing lockouts, hence the termination risk) and also fun.

Now that Sega have officially confirmed Plus on Steam (by way of its mention as a DLC upgrade at the very end of the trailer), I think it's the ideal time to contact them.

[Soniti254]

Agreed; once the game was cracked about 1 week after the game launched, Denuvo stopped serving any purpose whatsoever. Whether it requires very little resources on the end-user's side is irrelevent; once Denuvo's authentication servers go down (that isn't a matter of if it will happen, it's a matter of when it'll happen), any and all Denuvo protected games won't work at all. This should not be considered acceptable whatsoever.

There should be rules that publishers have to follow regarding implementing DRM such as Denuvo: it should either be removed after a set amount of time (anywhere between 6 months to a year after release I think is reasonable) or once the DRM has been compromised by pirates, whichever comes first.