Sonic Ability Select

[|NK| Kain]

I noticed the game said I unlocked the 3&K ability, which I prefer. So I tried to switch to it. However it seems to only work with non-saved games. Is this a bug?

[Ravrous]

No you can only use the unlocked skills in the no save mode

[Ɲøƈ]

But how can you prefer the insta shield over the drop dash?

[Zeikar]

Originally posted by Inoc:

But how can you prefer the insta shield over the drop dash?

nostalgia?

[Hyper Realistic Blood]

Here's the real question: Why can't I do all three at once?

[Kazzfire]

i see no problem with the sonic cd charge but instant shield and drop dash wouldnt overlap to well. i mean could use different buttons but i dont know feels like it would break flow

[|NK| Kain]

Originally posted by Inoc:

But how can you prefer the insta shield over the drop dash?

The drop dash is extremely slow and kinda pointless. Its essentially a single charge spindash, not worth it at all. Especially considering you could just do a normal spindash. The couple of frames you would lose from stopping to charge up the spindash would instantly be negated by the massive difference in maximum speed achieved by a fully charged spindash.



The insta-shield can be abused to allow you to clip through certain elements which is why I would prefer it over the dropdash in pretty much every circumstance.

Originally posted by Genocide__Pheonix:

Yeah, it only works on non-save games. You can download mods, however, to enable the insta-shield on saved games. You can also download a program changer and change the abilities through that.

That's pretty silly, it should affect save games as well, I don't want to have to hex edit my save files just to use the ability I prefer.



Hell I don't see a reason why you couldn't do all three at once. Super Peelout requires you to be grounded.



Insta-shield would require a tap and dropdash a hold. I wouldn't be surprised if all three were enabled at one point.

[The Trippy Pyro (MPH! MPH! MPH!)]

a glaring flaw in the game is you can only enable one skill at a time and it can only be usable in no save mode.

i think sega could patch the ability select for sonic in the main game. heck, i'd like a max control option (with the super peel out, drop dash, and insta shield all in one package) for sonic... no reason why it can't.

[Nipah~☆]

Noooo, drop dash is great for speedrunning this game. Watch some speedruns and it is used A LOT. I actually prefer it to insta-shield, despite insta being good for bosses

[Warrior of Right]

Originally posted by Inoc:

But how can you prefer the insta shield over the drop dash?

How can you prefer the useless drop dash to Super Peelout or instant spin dash from SADX or Generations that makes drop dash complete trash?
Even insta shield is way more usefull than the drop dash, they could have chosen any of those moves for the main gamer but they chose the most useless move for the main game......
(Makes me just want to download a 100% save so i can just level select with any moveset)

Even Sonic Time Twisted let's you at least select the levels you beat without beating the whole game first....
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[Zeikar]

Sonic Mania is a great game, it's not destroyed by rom hacks.

[Warrior of Right]

Originally posted by Zeikar:

Sonic Mania is a great game, it's not destroyed by rom hacks.

Yes you must totally right with the Zero examples or back up of your statement.......

Other Sonic hacks let you use ALL of Sonics moves and with saves not just choose 1 while losing the others in no save mode where you can't even skip the lengthy intros.
(you may not know this but Sonic is about going FAST not sitting through the same intros every replay)

Nothing will ever top Sonic 1 and 2 Heros with Team Sonic AND Chaotix until maybe Sonic 3 complete Heros happens (if that ever does)

Also "Even Sonic Time Twisted let's you at least select the levels you beat without beating the whole game first...." Quoted from a guy that knows what he talking about actually
(oh right is was me.....)

Totally not biased coming from someone with a Sonic Mania steam pic
(you haven't even completed a single Sonic game on steam what would you know...)

[Zeikar]

Originally posted by Like taking skins from a baby...:

Originally posted by Zeikar:

Sonic Mania is a great game, it's not destroyed by rom hacks.

Yes you must totally right with the Zero examples or back up of your statement.......

Other Sonic hacks let you use ALL of Sonics moves and with saves not just choose 1 while losing the others in no save mode where you can't even skip the lengthy intros.
(you may not know this but Sonic is about going FAST not sitting through the same intros every replay)

Nothing will ever top Sonic 1 and 2 Heros with Team Sonic AND Chaotix until maybe Sonic 3 complete Heros happens (if that ever does)

Also "Even Sonic Time Twisted let's you at least select the levels you beat without beating the whole game first...." Quoted from a guy that knows what he talking about actually
(oh right is was me.....)

Totally not biased coming from someone with a Sonic Mania steam pic
(you haven't even completed a single Sonic game on steam what would you know...)

Because I beat them on other platforms and I played the original Sonic the Hedgehog that came with the original Sega Genesis when I was 8, you complain about a save system that operates exactly like Sonic 3's save system. Mania is the true sequel to S3&K, but it's not better than classic Sonic, it's just as good. You must be a kid wanting advanced features with that sense of entitlement. When I was a kid Sonic 3 locking onto the Sonic & Knuckles cart was the most awesome thing I ever witnessed. This is a game developed by rom hackers probably about my age. The game is classic Sonic through and through. I think Sonic 3 Complete is great though, as a rom hack it's the closest thing there is to a Taxman port of S3&K. You know the same guy(s) that made Mania and 1&2 mobile remakes. As well as Sonic CD. They are Rom hackers and their work is excellent. Why are you even using other's opinions as facts? We can use all the positive and negative reviews as examples, but it doesn't back up facts when all we have here is opinions. Some people think Christian Whitehead is awesome and some people don't. Just like I guess some people think Mania is good and some don't. You seem to have gotten super angry and defensive about rom hacks vs Mania. I like Sonic rom hacks too, but to me is like comparing apples and oranges in the same fruit salad. Sonic is one of the best series ever made. *mic drop*

[Sabin Stargem]

The developer not integrating the extra moves into the vanilla controls is a legitimately weird choice. Ditto for team combinations and no triple team mode. The poor implementation sticks out, like as if an anime fang jutted out from Mona Lisa's lip.

[Warrior of Right]

Originally posted by Sabin Stargem:

The developer not integrating the extra moves into the vanilla controls is a legitimately weird choice. Ditto for team combinations and no triple team mode. The poor implementation sticks out, like as if an anime fang jutted out from Mona Lisa's lip.

ahhh but todays games aren't about having fun or taking the old content while improving and adding upon it..
Todays sequels are about trade offs, try harding with jank and what little you are given to be the sweatiest tryhard of them all......

Also the regular shield gives Sonic no ability, it should give Sonic the homing attack...

[Zeikar]

Well PC has a Mod Loader and a Cheat Table that will allow those abilities in Saved Games.