All I know is that Dr. Robotnik better have the correct name.

[THE REVN3]

None of this Eggman nonsense. Coo-Coo-Cachoo

[Setnaro X]

Doesn't really work well as an insult when Eggman's creations involve an egg name of some sort, even way before Sonic Adventure. Like Death Egg, Eggmobile, Egg Robo, Egg Hangar. He is the EGGman for a reason.

[cowbell]

Originally posted by eccentricdomain:

Yeah, no. As a kid I played, watched and read everything Sonic. So, sorry, but YOU are wrong. Regardless of what they called him in Japan, here it was ALWAYS Robotnik, clear through to the Dreamcast. Take that weak **** out of here, kid.

Did you know that his Eggman name was in Wing Fortress Zone many times in Sonic 2? Even in the US, Eggman was referenced. Sorry, but your fanboi is weak.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Originally posted by Setnaro X:

I seriously doubt they coined the name "Robotnik" with the idea that his name backwards would mean something, especially since Robotnik was a name given to him in the games NOT the comics where the Kintobor name would be created. As far as things go, whatever sort of "character" could be derived out of it is purely coincidental since they just wanted a name for Sonic's villain that would more in line with his theme (ROBOTnik.) while trying to avoid the Eggman name since the marketers thought folks wouldn't take him seriously.

Strange you say that when Robotnik's childhood story was clearly inspired by the 1954 movie Tobor The Great, and no. It's not just coincidental. I could list all the similarities of the backstory of Gerald Robotnik and Dr. Harrison, Ivo Robotnik and Brian Roberts but I digress. You already have the "I bet I'm older than all of you" alpha mentality so no matter how much evidence I show you, it wouldn't make a difference. And I highly doubt you're older than me, I also highly doubt you've ever heard of the Tobor movies.

Originally posted by JCTed:

But now i'm curious in which language the word "Kin" actually have those meanings? Or is this just like the word "Bailey" in metroid?

Well, in Japanese "Kin" means money, wealth as a known and rich as a descriptive word.

[Ikagura]

Could you stop fighting over a character's name please? Both are correct, end of the thread.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

I'm not fighting over the name, never said it wasn't one or the other. Simply providing some info is all.

[Setnaro X]

Originally posted by DontBlink +_- UrDead:

Strange you say that when Robotnik's childhood story was clearly inspired by the 1954 movie Tobor The Great, and no. It's not just coincidental. I could list all the similarities of the backstory of Gerald Robotnik and Dr. Harrison, Ivo Robotnik and Brian Roberts but I digress. You already have the "I bet I'm older than all of you" alpha mentality so no matter how much evidence I show you, it wouldn't make a difference. And I highly doubt you're older than me, I also highly doubt you've ever heard of the Tobor movies.

I'll drop the "I'm older mentality" from here on out because I'm much better than that. I was just bringing that up because we have some other dudes here acting that way to try and prove their point, even though others, like me, also grew up with the Sonic series and can manage to form their own view on what to call the fat egg-shaped scientist.

Anyway, as for your point, I am completely aware about the Tobor films. I've a friend who totally digs sci-fi classics, plus I've heard this exact comparison before. It's still coincidental. first off, Robotnik's childhood story was never fleshed out around the time of the first game's release. Gerald Robotnik didn't even exist until Sonic Adventure 2, a whole 10 years later after the first game. You can't seriously tell me that Dean Sitton had the foresight to create the name Robotnik because sometime later on, we would see Robotnik have a relation with his grandfather in the same manner as Dr. Harrison and Brian Roberts. The Tobor name itself is just Robot backwards, so I guess if there's any characters out there with the word "Robot" in their name, that must mean it's a reference to Tobor. NOT. That's really not how things work.

The Kintobor name was created in the comic books, which aren't canon at all to the games since every variant of the comics (and the cartoon series for that matter) involve writers who can only interpret how the story for Sonic should go, with a little help from a simple bible that explains Sonic's motives and personalities, and nothing more.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

You're right, I don't believe Dave Sitton did, but the Archie Sonic writers were clever enough to make those references. The relationship of Dr. Harrison and Brian Roberts are so close that it's hard to deny the similarities when comparing the comics and the films. Including the fact that they are supposedly genius inventors creating to make the world a better place but of course that's not where the similarities end.

In short, yes I agree with you that the lore was added later rather than before. Probably because they realized that they needed to now that Sonic and Tails were getting their stories more drawn out.

[Naoya]

The point's already been made, but I feel it should be repeated. His original name is Eggman. His localized name is Robotnik. The two are now canon. The only part that's not canon in Japan is the "Ivo" part, that's still only in America. It doesn't matter which one the game uses, and will probably use both.

Personally, I prefer Eggman.

[DeadSnake]

Well, here in South America he was always referred as Robotinik in the game's manuals and cartoons during the 90's (same as Bowser always being called Koopa back then). Probably because Robotinik looks like a russian name and ppl at the time still associated vilains with russians and ♥♥♥♥.

For me, Robotinik is a much more badass name, Eggman just feels stupid.

[Naoya]

Originally posted by DeadSnake:

Well, here in South America he was always referred as Robotinik in the game's manuals and cartoons during the 90's (same as Bowser always being called Koopa back then). Probably because Robotinik looks like a russian name and ppl at the time still associated vilains with russians and ♥♥♥♥.

For me, Robotinik is a much more badass name, Eggman just feels stupid.

Eggman is more in line with his design, and also with the Sonic universe. Eggman was never meant to be a badass villain, he was supposed to be more of a comic relief villain. His comical design, the way he explodes when you beat him, even the way he somehow outruns Sonic whenever you chase him all attest to that.

[DeadSnake]

Originally posted by Naoya:

Originally posted by DeadSnake:

Well, here in South America he was always referred as Robotinik in the game's manuals and cartoons during the 90's (same as Bowser always being called Koopa back then). Probably because Robotinik looks like a russian name and ppl at the time still associated vilains with russians and ♥♥♥♥.

For me, Robotinik is a much more badass name, Eggman just feels stupid.

Eggman is more in line with his design, and also with the Sonic universe. Eggman was never meant to be a badass villain, he was supposed to be more of a comic relief villain. His comical design, the way he explodes when you beat him, even the way he somehow outruns Sonic whenever you chase him all attest to that.

Kinda agree with you there, although, as a child, I used to find Robotinik pretty badass with that boss music, those crazy machines and even his design in Sonic 2 cover (http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/13116-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-genesis-front-cover.jpg).

[Naoya]

Originally posted by DeadSnake:

Originally posted by Naoya:

Eggman is more in line with his design, and also with the Sonic universe. Eggman was never meant to be a badass villain, he was supposed to be more of a comic relief villain. His comical design, the way he explodes when you beat him, even the way he somehow outruns Sonic whenever you chase him all attest to that.

Kinda agree with you there, although, as a child, I used to find Robotinik pretty badass with that boss music, those crazy machines and even his design in Sonic 2 cover (http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/13116-sonic-the-hedgehog-2-genesis-front-cover.jpg).

Crazy bearded Robotnik who's super protective of his 2 was more hilarious to me

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by THE REVN3:

None of this Eggman nonsense. Coo-Coo-Cachoo

By the way you sound very mature about this

[QXM_deadeye]

why not keep the Eggman name it sets up so many egg puns.

[THE REVN3]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by THE REVN3:

None of this Eggman nonsense. Coo-Coo-Cachoo

By the way you sound very mature about this

HA! I guess you aren't old enough to know where the Eggman name came from then. Ever notice his moustache makes him look like a walrus?

Also, keep in mind most of the "canon" came after the fact. It's all retcons. In the English speaking world he's Robotnic and since we are all writing this in English he's Robotnic. Much like Rockman is Megaman and Gouki is Akuma. Unless you are a Weeboo I guess.