Why there are so low population of CCU on this game?

[kjhdocter(smg_sniper]

Srsly CCU is lower than tf2. This is unacceptable as Valve's new opening game.

[NGMZeroX]

I refunded after the tutorial (for personal preferecne reasons) & reading a review about something related to ranked matches cost real money, just fantastic.

[Terroriza]

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

For the price of this game + 20 packs, I can get the witcher 3 with all dlcs + fallout 4 + GTA 5 at full price. This should tell you one thing or two about valve politics in this game.

lol, total bs, no you can't.. this game plus 20 packs is only 60$.. maybe you added it up wrong, now if all of the games were on a huge ass sale, sure. Witcher 3 currenlty cost 50$ with the DLC. You mean you could get witcher 3 w/o dlc, GTA 5, fallout 4 all for roughly 60$ if they are all on sale at the exact same time. they go for about 20$ each when on sale.

[Terroriza]

kjhdocter(Final exam님이 먼저 게시:

Sham!님이 먼저 게시:

tf2 is a game that was actually made to entertain, with its own humor, art and lore

artifact is something made to spill money and with little to no creativity since it's based off the dota2 universe

you know, one is an actual videogame and not a money making machine

I heard Artipact is well made TCG. But not for casual players?

lol exactly and what they mean is, it's not for 100% f2p players. most people crying are complete idiots. they will spend 100$+ every few months in hearthstone plus at least 100$ initial cost and you still won't even come close to having a full collection, but they don't take the time to check the market prices. you could buy literally every single card in this game w the exception of a couple that sell for 7$+ and it would cost like maybe 40$ if that, that would be 3 copies of every card below rare and about 1 copy of every rare. If you want 3 of every rare probably toss another 30-40$.

full collection is like 250$ a lot of that is buying 3 copies of a 5$ rare u don't need. even if you buy the 16$ and 10$ hero, you can only use 1 copy anyways so it's not even that much money. from looking at the prices, i would guess about 150$ of the cost is made up of the 16$, 10 and 7$ hero along with 3 copies of several rares that are anywhere from 2-5$

I did a quick scan and just took 1 copy of each rare that looked like it was actually good, plus a 3$ and 2$ hero, total of like 60 cards and it cost like 17$. It cost me a grand total of 4$ to fill in a copy of each uncommon that I did not own, another 50 cards.

anyone who pays in any other CCG and has a halfway functioning brain would realize this game cost far less, but it's not for 100% f2p and who actually cares, i mean they contribute nothing anyway.

[Skull]

Here we have someone completely ignorant that never heard about regional pricing. In my region, I CAN buy all those games at full price spending the same money of buying Artifact + 20 pacts. You know why? Because the prices practiced by valve in this game are absurd. Toxic people like you don't even realize their own ignorance. Continue living in your bubble kid.

[Terroriza]

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

Here we have someone completely ignorant that never heard about regional pricing. In my region, I CAN buy all those games at full price spending the same money of buying Artifact + 20 pacts. You know why? Because the prices practiced by valve in this game are absurd. Toxic people like you don't even realize their own ignorance. Continue living in your bubble kid.

ok what region are u in? you did say regular pricing and the u.s tends to be where the cheapest prices are. i always see people outside of the u.s complaining how much games cost so why would i assume you live in some other country where games magically cost 3 times less when they aren't even on sale?

in the brazilian store i am see witcher 3 with dlc for 50$.

[Skull]

Terroriza님이 먼저 게시:

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

Here we have someone completely ignorant that never heard about regional pricing. In my region, I CAN buy all those games at full price spending the same money of buying Artifact + 20 pacts. You know why? Because the prices practiced by valve in this game are absurd. Toxic people like you don't even realize their own ignorance. Continue living in your bubble kid.

ok what region are u in? you did say regular pricing and the u.s tends to be where the cheapest prices are. i always see people outside of the u.s complaining how much games cost so why would i assume you live in some other country where games magically cost 3 times less when they aren't even on sale?

I'm from Brazil. And I will spare you the work of searching price by price.

The witcher 3 - Complete edtion = 100 BRL
Fallout 4 = 100 BRL
GTA 5 = 70 BRL

Artifact = 78 BRL
20 packs 160 BRL

It is not exact, but it is very close. Take your own conclusions. The prices practiced by valve are direct considerations from the USD to BRL. The problem with this is that our currency is far from having the same purcharse power as the USD. Bethesda knows it, CD Project Red knows it and Rockstar knows it.

That is way the prices are lower for us. Our minimum wage is 1000 BRL (260 USD) per month. The average citizen/player in my country is not able to pay 230 BRL (60 USD) on a game.Specially on a incomplete game.

[Skull]

If you doubt it, search a brazilian proxy on the internet and check steam store, you will see that I'm not lying. ANd if you live in a first world country, don't talk about things you don't understand. Your reality is completely different from mine, and from a lot of people around here. And that is ok.

What is not ok is you defending a company over people who are making very reasable complains, because of something they love. Gaming.

[Terroriza]

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

Terroriza님이 먼저 게시:

ok what region are u in? you did say regular pricing and the u.s tends to be where the cheapest prices are. i always see people outside of the u.s complaining how much games cost so why would i assume you live in some other country where games magically cost 3 times less when they aren't even on sale?

I'm from Brazil. And I will spare you the work of searching price by price.

The witcher 3 - Complete edtion = 100 BRL
Fallout 4 = 100 BRL
GTA 5 = 70 BRL

Artifact = 78 BRL
20 packs 160 BRL

It is not exact, but it is very close. Take your own conclusions. The prices practiced by valve are direct considerations from the USD to BRL. The problem with this is that our currency is far from having the same purcharse power as the USD. Bethesda knows it, CD Project Red knows it and Rockstar knows it.

That is way the prices are lower for us. Our minimum wage is 1000 BRL (260 USD) per month. The average citizen/player in my country is not able to pay 230 BRL (60 USD) on a game.Specially on a incomplete game.

the first total comes up to about 10$ more when you convert. that's interesting about how they price games in Brazil. not sure what the hell i was looking at, it said steam from brazil page and shows same pricing. should have probably used my vpn, but you broke it down nicely. need to purchase games from brazil.

[Skull]

Do it. 100% sure you will get banned. And actually I think this would be great. Your first instinct is to be a dishonest person. Keep doing it man, you are great.

[Terroriza]

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

If you doubt it, search a brazilian proxy on the internet and check steam store, you will see that I'm not lying. ANd if you live in a first world country, don't talk about things you don't understand. Your reality is completely different from mine, and from a lot of people around here. And that is ok.

What is not ok is you defending a company over people who are making very reasable complains, because of something they love. Gaming.

nah, i believe you, it's all good. like i mentioned i did check, but i wasn't using vpn, so not sure what it was really showing me. you have a legit complaint and anyone from a country with similar pricing does as well.

here is the weird thing though... 20 packs whether it's BRL or USD it's the same, 160brl or 40usd, you pay the same regardless of where you are. you are not getting the same discount on artifact that you get on the other games you list. it's hard to compare, but i also see it from valves side. if the packs cost less like witcher and the other games do because of the avg income in brazil what is to stop me from using a vpn to purchase a ton of packs for less and then sell them on the market for much higher profit? how would the market work as well, brazil would need it's own system split away from everyone else, probably not worth the trouble.

you are in the same category as the f2p player. you have a valid complaint, but unfortunately you are not the target market. they are ignoring people in lower income areas and f2p and focus on the ones who spend the money.

[Terroriza]

Skull님이 먼저 게시:

Do it. 100% sure you will get banned. And actually I think this would be great. Your first instinct is to be a dishonest person. Keep doing it man, you are great.

just to clarify, i was kidding when i said that about the games. i said it because they cost less. i make decent money here, it's not even worth the time or effort to try work around the system. i also wouldn't want to be stuck having to always play with a vpn, just not worth all the risk. just a joke.

[driftor]

North America is asleep at this time, thats why

[Terroriza]

it's between 5 and 8pm when u post that

[Aijendo]

kC님이 먼저 게시:

so basically this is the first real TCG ever made as a video game because it actually doesnt grant you free cards or whatever

MTG Online is a similar TCG which exist 16 years now. No suprise its also from Richard Garfield.

[Skull]

I know that the direct conversion is correct and I have nothing to say about that. The problem is that we don't have the money to pay so much for a card game. At least most of us dont. Just try to imagine living with 700 USD every month. If you have to pay rent, eat, pay bills etc, you will probably have a problem spending 60 USD on a game. And even if you spend, that will only be base game + 5 tickets + 30 packs...and THIS is what makes everyone outside the US furious.

And yes, we are not the target audience, and that sucks. But we will get over it eventually.