Forced PvP condition?

[Diargoa]

While i'm still playing in Exp server, i can't help but worried that after reaching lv 61 where i need to switch to normal server, open PvP is almost everywhere and can be killed even when my pvp tag is off (while the killer gets a Karma, is that even enough?)

[󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ]

let them kill you and move servers simple you lose nothing.

[Karna5]

BDO has more than one type of PK.

- Pure PK: This is a bully. They don't want to fight you, they only want to beat you up. So they target easy prey like weaker characters, AFK characters and boss alts. This t ype of PK is actually kind of rare in BDO and gets more rare the stronger you get because, as I said, they are not looking for PVP. They're looking for easy kills. In nearly 13000 hours of BDO I have run into pure PKs approximately 25 times.

- Territorial PKs: These are willing to risk that the person they attack can fight back. They want your turf. They want to push you out of where you're fighting monsters and convince you to either go elsewhere or switch servers.

You have three options on territorial pks:

1. You can fight them (or duel them if they offer) and chase them off,

2. You can switch servers or go elsewhere, or

3. You can ignore them. Every time they kill you, just resurrect and come back until they leave. You were, after all, there first. And this is, after all, your game as well. They do not have a right to push you away just because they're stronger.

I almost always pick option #3 with regard to territorial PKs, but sometimes they are polite and civil, and I've on occasion given them my territory if I was about ready to leave anyway. However, if they're rude, I add them to my block list so I can't hear their insults and stay until they leave.

There isn't really such thing as Karma Bombing they're the ones attacking you and not vice versa. If they don't want to lose Karma, they should not attack you nor try to push you from where you're fighting monsters.

P.S. You ask if Karma Penalty is enough deterrent. The answer is not really. BDO ties Karma recovery to killing monsters, not to time. So they get karma back just doing what they would have done anyway. In addition, with the new crystal system where you can have 15 crystals per set and multiple sets, the risk of losing a gear level is non existent unless you don't use crystals.

[-=)V(=-]

Originally posted by MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

let them kill you and move servers simple you lose nothing.

There's one major problem you're forgetting: it's not the other player who will kill him, it's the mobs between which he will be blocked by that player.
That's why open pvp doesn't make sense, and games with such a system die quickly or have few players.
Until PA removes: exp loss for death, crystal loss for death, and cd to change channel then open pvp doesn't make sense in BDO.

[󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ]

Originally posted by -=)V(=-:

Originally posted by MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

let them kill you and move servers simple you lose nothing.

There's one major problem you're forgetting: it's not the other player who will kill him, it's the mobs between which he will be blocked by that player.
That's why open pvp doesn't make sense, and games with such a system die quickly or have few players.
Until PA removes: exp loss for death, crystal loss for death, and cd to change channel then open pvp doesn't make sense in BDO.

i mean if your low already don't matter but if your farming high end areas either fight back or just the moment you see a place around the mini map or in camo run past you either switch servers or you move away from mobs and wait to see, i have had so many times people flag on me, the funny thing is im not even a PVPer but i still kill these pvp players due to i have gear, but i mean in general the game is still full of players and not dying any time soon due to this lol. i feel people more leave due to the upgrading system.

[-=)V(=-]

Originally posted by MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

i mean if your low already don't matter but if your farming high end areas either fight back or just the moment you see a place around the mini map or in camo run past you either switch servers or you move away from mobs and wait to see, i have had so many times people flag on me, the funny thing is im not even a PVPer but i still kill these pvp players due to i have gear, but i mean in general the game is still full of players and not dying any time soon due to this lol. i feel people more leave due to the upgrading system.

But you're wasting your time doing this and the buff clock is still ticking.
You change the channel and someone will be on it again. And what will you do? You cannot change the channel for the next 10 minutes. Wasting time again.
You start karmabomb, your opponent will declare war on you. If you're not playing solo without a guild then you have no way to defend against it.
If PA wanted it, it would have removed toxic open pvp from the game a long time ago. But they won't do it because "that's their "vision" of the game".
And yet the solution is very simple: unlimited Marni Private Zone for all zones in the game.
And problem solved. Everyone plays for themselves and doesn't bother anyone else.
Enchant items is a different topic, but it is in second place for me, just behind open pvp. In third place is the lack of free fast travel to any node and cd when changing the channel.
The conclusion is simple for me: I haven't killed mobs in a long time, I'm currently finishing my horse training (I have about 20 T8 left) and the only thing I log into the game for is for daily rewards and world bosses.
For me, this game without changes that increases playability is dead, and I'm not going to grind for 5 or 10 years for end game items.
And the fact is that 9 out of 10 new players leave within a month just because of open pvp and the ridiculous enchant system that takes us back in progress making the whole grind pointless.

[Zen]

Originally posted by -=)V(=-:

Originally posted by MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ:

i mean if your low already don't matter but if your farming high end areas either fight back or just the moment you see a place around the mini map or in camo run past you either switch servers or you move away from mobs and wait to see, i have had so many times people flag on me, the funny thing is im not even a PVPer but i still kill these pvp players due to i have gear, but i mean in general the game is still full of players and not dying any time soon due to this lol. i feel people more leave due to the upgrading system.

But you're wasting your time doing this and the buff clock is still ticking.
You change the channel and someone will be on it again. And what will you do? You cannot change the channel for the next 10 minutes. Wasting time again.
You start karmabomb, your opponent will declare war on you. If you're not playing solo without a guild then you have no way to defend against it.
If PA wanted it, it would have removed toxic open pvp from the game a long time ago. But they won't do it because "that's their "vision" of the game".
And yet the solution is very simple: unlimited Marni Private Zone for all zones in the game.
And problem solved. Everyone plays for themselves and doesn't bother anyone else.
Enchant items is a different topic, but it is in second place for me, just behind open pvp. In third place is the lack of free fast travel to any node and cd when changing the channel.
The conclusion is simple for me: I haven't killed mobs in a long time, I'm currently finishing my horse training (I have about 20 T8 left) and the only thing I log into the game for is for daily rewards and world bosses.
For me, this game without changes that increases playability is dead, and I'm not going to grind for 5 or 10 years for end game items.
And the fact is that 9 out of 10 new players leave within a month just because of open pvp and the ridiculous enchant system that takes us back in progress making the whole grind pointless.

I think you are exxagerating it. Pking is fairly dead and the enhacing system can be bypass by buying in market

[󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ]

Originally posted by Zen:

Originally posted by -=)V(=-:

But you're wasting your time doing this and the buff clock is still ticking.
You change the channel and someone will be on it again. And what will you do? You cannot change the channel for the next 10 minutes. Wasting time again.
You start karmabomb, your opponent will declare war on you. If you're not playing solo without a guild then you have no way to defend against it.
If PA wanted it, it would have removed toxic open pvp from the game a long time ago. But they won't do it because "that's their "vision" of the game".
And yet the solution is very simple: unlimited Marni Private Zone for all zones in the game.
And problem solved. Everyone plays for themselves and doesn't bother anyone else.
Enchant items is a different topic, but it is in second place for me, just behind open pvp. In third place is the lack of free fast travel to any node and cd when changing the channel.
The conclusion is simple for me: I haven't killed mobs in a long time, I'm currently finishing my horse training (I have about 20 T8 left) and the only thing I log into the game for is for daily rewards and world bosses.
For me, this game without changes that increases playability is dead, and I'm not going to grind for 5 or 10 years for end game items.
And the fact is that 9 out of 10 new players leave within a month just because of open pvp and the ridiculous enchant system that takes us back in progress making the whole grind pointless.

I think you are exxagerating it. Pking is fairly dead and the enhacing system can be bypass by buying in market

ik it's rare i come into someone PK, most of it is DFS and i either win or lose, unless i im brain dead grinding and i don't see the chat someone asking for a DFS then they flag me aha, but otherwise very rare i come into PKer and yes i know you can grind hours and buy from market place i do that when i failed a pen 50x on a 180fs lol made myself 4pen and bought 3pen so far, i still try to make pens but i only do it when i get free cron stones lol otherwise i grind to buy from MP.

[Soul]

bdo is a pvp game, you either learn to love it or hate it... but its also super easy to avoid with marni realm and having a guild so you can have 3 servers you can change to on a whim... there should be MORE incentive to participate in pvp. for now you dont get anything from winning or losing in open world pvp... also crystal loss and exp loss is only from death of a mob... dont get fed?

[Grizzledorf]

I have not dealt with pvp being a problem yet other than a couple times being ganked. If someone wants to keep doing it to me when they are clearly better equipped than me, I will end up coming back over and over so they can deal with the penalty while I don't care and then go back to what I was doing.