Is it worth for a returning player?

[exia]

Last time I played was when battle royal got added as a gamemode (2018 or 2019 idk). My account is deleted (why lmao) so I have to start from scratch. I wanted to know if it's worth starting anew and coming back because my last memories of this game is being clinically depressed grinding 24/7 or putting the game on my tray for 24 hours straight. it traumatised me.

I also wanted to know about the new graphics or whatever update. can people with potato pcs play this game? I remember my irl saying she couldnt so im lowkey worried i install it with my ♥♥♥♥ internet for no reason.

tbh id rather go back to ff14 but im a cheapskate and dont want to pay every month lol

[Esteys]

well from what i've played so far it's still feels the same, they just gave you some free stuff to try to get you hooked and that's it, in the long run the game is still a massive grind snoozefest.

[-=)V(=-]

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

the game is still grinding 24/7 if thats what u are asking.. i think u know bdo very well already.

Grind is not bad if it rewards player, unfortunately in bdo grind is pointless because without a progressive and guaranteed enchant system you can lose everything you have earned over the years. E.g. what's the point of playing and losing an accessory worth e.g. 20-40b when trying to enchant from tet to pen? At the same time, price of pen is so gigantic that it takes 10-15 years to collect money to buy (if someone wants to sell) entire end game pen gear.

[Grahf]

Publicado originalmente por -=)V(=-:

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

the game is still grinding 24/7 if thats what u are asking.. i think u know bdo very well already.

Grind is not bad if it rewards player, unfortunately in bdo grind is pointless because without a progressive and guaranteed enchant system you can lose everything you have earned over the years. E.g. what's the point of playing and losing an accessory worth e.g. 20-40b when trying to enchant from tet to pen? At the same time, price of pen is so gigantic that it takes 10-15 years to collect money to buy (if someone wants to sell) entire end game pen gear.

If you think it is bad now you should of seen launch and the first few years lol. Its a joke now could never reach full TET/PEN boss gear personally. Now they just give you a WHOLE set for free for just reaching max lvl noob gear from the one time quest.

[Zen]

Publicado originalmente por Orphan Crippler:

Publicado originalmente por -=)V(=-:

Grind is not bad if it rewards player, unfortunately in bdo grind is pointless because without a progressive and guaranteed enchant system you can lose everything you have earned over the years. E.g. what's the point of playing and losing an accessory worth e.g. 20-40b when trying to enchant from tet to pen? At the same time, price of pen is so gigantic that it takes 10-15 years to collect money to buy (if someone wants to sell) entire end game pen gear.

If you think it is bad now you should of seen launch and the first few years lol. Its a joke now could never reach full TET/PEN boss gear personally. Now they just give you a WHOLE set for free for just reaching max lvl noob gear from the one time quest.

Don't be too mean to timmy here, he's always like that. early bdo gearing was a nightmare lol

[Hosenbund]

Publicado originalmente por big cheese:

They basically replace old grind with new grind constantly. Season makes full TET gear easy but TET gear now is like +15 gear back than, which is pretty much irrelevant to everything new. Boss blitz doesn't use your gear but you have to run through the whole story and boss fights in BDO is just bad IMO with all the desync and empty hits. A lot of other different new grindfest was added on top of getting full PEN. I quitted before they give out free T9 horse and I can't even bother going back for it. The QoL in this game was never a problem for me so all the new QoL changes just feels like a distraction from their tragic class balancing. IMO don't come back. Maybe wait for Blue Protocol or Chrono Odyssey (still waiting for actual gameplay) or go back to FF14.

blue protocol is not that good.. i played the japanese version already.. its just like a slightly better new world...biggest con for me is the combat system.. its so simple and boring and doesnt look like they would wanna change that. its supposed to be like that.
and chrono odyssey looks great, but we know almost nothing about it, could turn out trash, same as throne and liberty
people need to stop looking up to mmorpgs they dont know much about

FF14 is great though.. but for me its only good for raiding. grinding feels useless in that game to me, so when i dont feel like doing some great, challenging boss fights with great music and great visuals then i also always leave eventually...definitely one of the best mmo's though
Thing is because of that those dungeon/raid type mmorpgs dont have endless replay value to me

It can all depend on many factors which game someone favors

[nauq]

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

people need to stop looking up to mmorpgs they dont know much about

tbh this is exactly why I rather play moba or fps nowadays instead if mmos, or just play fromsoft games if I want to play arpg. I know, different genre, can't compare at all, but it just seems like no one knows or wants to actually make a good game anymore when it comes to mmo. Also free from grindfest and enhance hell.

[Hosenbund]

Publicado originalmente por big cheese:

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

people need to stop looking up to mmorpgs they dont know much about

tbh this is exactly why I rather play moba or fps nowadays instead if mmos, or just play fromsoft games if I want to play arpg. I know, different genre, can't compare at all, but it just seems like no one knows or wants to actually make a good game anymore when it comes to mmo. Also free from grindfest and enhance hell.

you dont enjoy grinding? cause thats all mmorpgs are for me when i try to explain it in a simple way.. raiding and/or grinding

i feel like there are many good mmorpg games existing for different tastes...back then i thought BDO is only running in circles killing mobs...and the good combat system is kinda wasted in this game cause it doesnt offer "good" pve content.. nowadays im tired of dungeons and raids and find BDO is a great experience.. lifeskilling too though.. not only running in circles

then im sure i will also have a phase again in future where i dont feel like playing a mmo again and will go back to FPS and/or league of legends or dota

the mmo landscape isnt as depressive as some people make it seem to be.. unless they dont like grinding at all.. then you only have FF14 and guild wars 2 i would say

im actually pretty confused how those kind of opinions seem to be so popular though
im unemployed since around 2 years, and im playing a BIG amount of my time..and i still dont find enough time to play everything. even just in the mmo genre.. and im interested in so much more genres
just bringing this up because there seem to be many people out there which are living more normal lives and still dont have much clue on what to play and think everything is bad
not necessarily meaning you with this though.. since i dont know you much

[nauq]

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

Publicado originalmente por big cheese:

tbh this is exactly why I rather play moba or fps nowadays instead if mmos, or just play fromsoft games if I want to play arpg. I know, different genre, can't compare at all, but it just seems like no one knows or wants to actually make a good game anymore when it comes to mmo. Also free from grindfest and enhance hell.

you dont enjoy grinding? cause thats all mmorpgs are for me when i try to explain it in a simple way.. raiding and/or grinding

i feel like there are many good mmorpg games existing for different tastes...back then i thought BDO is only running in circles killing mobs...and the good combat system is kinda wasted in this game cause it doesnt offer "good" pve content.. nowadays im tired of dungeons and raids and find BDO is a great experience.. lifeskilling too though.. not only running in circles

then im sure i will also have a phase again in future where i dont feel like playing a mmo again and will go back to FPS and/or league of legends or dota

the mmo landscape isnt as depressive as some people make it seem to be.. unless they dont like grinding at all.. then you only have FF14 and guild wars 2 i would say

im actually pretty confused how those kind of opinions seem to be so popular though
im unemployed since around 2 years, and im playing a BIG amount of my time..and i still dont find enough time to play everything. even just in the mmo genre.. and im interested in so much more genres
just bringing this up because there seem to be many people out there which are living more normal lives and still dont have much clue on what to play and think everything is bad
not necessarily meaning you with this though.. since i dont know you much

I think it's the overall experience of current mmos have, loads of rng, setbacks and bottlenecks.

I've also been unemployed for over a year now due to depression, yet I find all the mmos now just not worth the time to get invested in, since every changes they make will potentially render your current achievement nothing. Or maybe I just have no motivation cuz im depressed, idk.

I used to play blade and soul, the dungeon system with the combat in that game was perfect fun, until I was gated by rng drops to upgrade my weapon for new dungeons. I played as a tank while I don't even have enough aggro to tank bosses against the dps on my team.

Bdo is the same, rng everything, even pet upgrades, and worse of all degrading on fails. While people say that you can just buy everything on market, it takes years for me to get one pen acc. I used to love grinding, but if a game needs you to grind 4 hours a day for years, idk bout other ppl but i am bound to grow to hate it.

Even though mmos are suppose to give u serotonin for every success breakthrough, whether it's successful enhance, loot drops or clearing dungeons, the amount of work is just not equal to the happiness anymore in the mmos nowadays. That's just my 2 cents, you might feel differently, but i'm glad we shared our opinions with each other nonetheless.

[P.Diddy's Baby Oil]

do you love to grind in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love to lifeskill in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love p2w and tons of money dumps into QoL (they break it so you can use your wallet to fix it problems)? then come back, it's great at these.

do you love support that takes 3-4 weeks to respond and will not give you what you paid for in the pearl shop after that wait? then come back, the support is exactly like this.

do you love to log in one day and all the high end geared players just arbitrarily gained 50% value on their high end gear that will now takes you an extra 2 months per piece to get now because of cron price increase? then come back, they're doing this as a huge "♥♥♥♥ you" to the influx of new and returning players.

do you have 200+ buckaroos to burn on day 1 of your reinstall? if not, don't bother.

anyway i really like this game but it is still way over monetized and fairly scummy but about 20% less scummy than when kakao ran it, if that's any consolation.

[Hosenbund]

Publicado originalmente por big cheese:

Publicado originalmente por Hosenbund:

you dont enjoy grinding? cause thats all mmorpgs are for me when i try to explain it in a simple way.. raiding and/or grinding

i feel like there are many good mmorpg games existing for different tastes...back then i thought BDO is only running in circles killing mobs...and the good combat system is kinda wasted in this game cause it doesnt offer "good" pve content.. nowadays im tired of dungeons and raids and find BDO is a great experience.. lifeskilling too though.. not only running in circles

then im sure i will also have a phase again in future where i dont feel like playing a mmo again and will go back to FPS and/or league of legends or dota

the mmo landscape isnt as depressive as some people make it seem to be.. unless they dont like grinding at all.. then you only have FF14 and guild wars 2 i would say

im actually pretty confused how those kind of opinions seem to be so popular though
im unemployed since around 2 years, and im playing a BIG amount of my time..and i still dont find enough time to play everything. even just in the mmo genre.. and im interested in so much more genres
just bringing this up because there seem to be many people out there which are living more normal lives and still dont have much clue on what to play and think everything is bad
not necessarily meaning you with this though.. since i dont know you much

I think it's the overall experience of current mmos have, loads of rng, setbacks and bottlenecks.

I've also been unemployed for over a year now due to depression, yet I find all the mmos now just not worth the time to get invested in, since every changes they make will potentially render your current achievement nothing. Or maybe I just have no motivation cuz im depressed, idk.

I used to play blade and soul, the dungeon system with the combat in that game was perfect fun, until I was gated by rng drops to upgrade my weapon for new dungeons. I played as a tank while I don't even have enough aggro to tank bosses against the dps on my team.

Bdo is the same, rng everything, even pet upgrades, and worse of all degrading on fails. While people say that you can just buy everything on market, it takes years for me to get one pen acc. I used to love grinding, but if a game needs you to grind 4 hours a day for years, idk bout other ppl but i am bound to grow to hate it.

Even though mmos are suppose to give u serotonin for every success breakthrough, whether it's successful enhance, loot drops or clearing dungeons, the amount of work is just not equal to the happiness anymore in the mmos nowadays. That's just my 2 cents, you might feel differently, but i'm glad we shared our opinions with each other nonetheless.

yea i fully understand your point of view..at times i feel the same
but right now im really into BDO and i also love all the RNG.. even though of course at times i also hate it.. RNG is always a love/hate relationship for me

you played lost ark? that game everything really takes forever and u barely make progress in the short run..but it also offers 0 freedom and keeps locking actual content like raids behind itemlevel and gear...and the only people which actually have a good time are p2w players and people which play 8 hours per day..because those are the people which control the good groups in the game..when u dont keep up u get gatekept from everything and need to buy busses or have a miserable time trying to complete the content you need to complete..sitting in lobbies all the time and then when a raid starts there is also a bigger chance it will just fail.. and repeat that on alts afterwards..
i loved the game at start too, but i grew to hate it so much, the only mmorpg i ever started to really hate.. others i just became bored of

BDO is different to me because it offers so much freedom...its all just a grind which takes forever but i can choose what to grind
Maybe my opinion on it will change in 1000 hours though.. who knows..but i predict i will just get bored eventually and leave for a while.. then maybe come back at some point

Hope ur depression becomes better!

[Shrapnel]

Oh, definitely.

[Uzkniso o.o]

I recommend returning when the next season begins. More free loot and best new player-oriented events are likely to happen/occur then.

[Arioch]

people are buying outfits and pantsu for their waifus.

[The Grin]

Publicado originalmente por Nick_Nolte's_Mugshot:

do you love to grind in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love to lifeskill in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love p2w and tons of money dumps into QoL (they break it so you can use your wallet to fix it problems)? then come back, it's great at these.

do you love support that takes 3-4 weeks to respond and will not give you what you paid for in the pearl shop after that wait? then come back, the support is exactly like this.

do you love to log in one day and all the high end geared players just arbitrarily gained 50% value on their high end gear that will now takes you an extra 2 months per piece to get now because of cron price increase? then come back, they're doing this as a huge "♥♥♥♥ you" to the influx of new and returning players.

do you have 200+ buckaroos to burn on day 1 of your reinstall? if not, don't bother.

anyway i really like this game but it is still way over monetized and fairly scummy but about 20% less scummy than when kakao ran it, if that's any consolation.

I approve Nick Nolte's ironic rant

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

Publicado originalmente por Jadam Ensen (^3^):

Publicado originalmente por Nick_Nolte's_Mugshot:

do you love to grind in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love to lifeskill in a circle nonstop? then come back, it's good.

do you love p2w and tons of money dumps into QoL (they break it so you can use your wallet to fix it problems)? then come back, it's great at these.

do you love support that takes 3-4 weeks to respond and will not give you what you paid for in the pearl shop after that wait? then come back, the support is exactly like this.

do you love to log in one day and all the high end geared players just arbitrarily gained 50% value on their high end gear that will now takes you an extra 2 months per piece to get now because of cron price increase? then come back, they're doing this as a huge "♥♥♥♥ you" to the influx of new and returning players.

do you have 200+ buckaroos to burn on day 1 of your reinstall? if not, don't bother.

anyway i really like this game but it is still way over monetized and fairly scummy but about 20% less scummy than when kakao ran it, if that's any consolation.

I approve Nick Nolte's ironic rant

Skill issue. I have spent a total of $62 over the last 3-4 years playing. Never been without a Value Pack running for more than a day or two. Still have have $31 worth of pearls unspent. Have 80+ cash shop outfits that I have purchased off of the CM. Have 4+ months of Books of Old Moon in storage, have 2+ months of Blessings of Kama in storage. 10s of Billions of silver without even trying.

Game is not that hard, I don't know what all the drama is about once you get under the hood and look around.