Black Desert

Black Desert

Albatroza Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:49am
Allow people can play through Client
We should able to play through client too, why forcing players running from Steam exclusivity?
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Gabber420 Jul 3, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
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Tsel13 Jul 3, 2024 @ 3:09pm 
If you bought BDO through PA directly you can play without using Steam.
However, you cannot link the PA direct version of BDO with Steam.
Albatroza Jul 3, 2024 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by Tsel13:
If you bought BDO through PA directly you can play without using Steam.
However, you cannot link the PA direct version of BDO with Steam.
Im asking them for doing that
Proctor Cain Jul 3, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
Is there something about playing BD via Steam that you dislike or find inconvenient?
Albatroza Jul 3, 2024 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Proctor Cain:
Is there something about playing BD via Steam that you dislike or find inconvenient?
Yes, ACOIN prices way more expensive on Steam version, like almost 2x difference, + I can't leave afk on second PC while want to play another game on my main PC because Steam doesn't allow this
Grizzledorf Jul 4, 2024 @ 12:33am 
Originally posted by Albatroza:
Originally posted by Proctor Cain:
Is there something about playing BD via Steam that you dislike or find inconvenient?
Yes, ACOIN prices way more expensive on Steam version, like almost 2x difference, + I can't leave afk on second PC while want to play another game on my main PC because Steam doesn't allow this

you could run the game on your main pc and still run a second game from steam account(on same computer). in settings you can make a hotkey combo that puts bdo into system tray, it will make it use less GPU resources but still will use CPU, if your main computer is at least somewhat decent you should be able to run another game just fine unless it has high requirements compared to what your system can handle.
Last edited by Grizzledorf; Jul 4, 2024 @ 12:33am
Albatroza Jul 4, 2024 @ 12:42am 
Originally posted by Grizzledorf:
Originally posted by Albatroza:
Yes, ACOIN prices way more expensive on Steam version, like almost 2x difference, + I can't leave afk on second PC while want to play another game on my main PC because Steam doesn't allow this

you could run the game on your main pc and still run a second game from steam account(on same computer). in settings you can make a hotkey combo that puts bdo into system tray, it will make it use less GPU resources but still will use CPU, if your main computer is at least somewhat decent you should be able to run another game just fine unless it has high requirements compared to what your system can handle.
Tried that but its glitching very much, like horse randomly stops or fishing activity stops itself or way worse game freezes and doesn't even gives any crash error, it doesn't work well with my PC on system tray feature
Tsel13 Jul 4, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Steam players have two ways to purchase Acoins.
Add funds to the Wallet first (which doesn't offer many funds options) or In-game with a character out.
Are you using the in-game purchase method?

Acoin (In game buy method)
First make sure Steam Overlay is enabled for BDO in Steam
After that, while in-game with your character....
Press F3
At the lower left is the Acoin symbol and two buttons Top-up / Refresh
LMB Top-up
The BDO Steam overlay UI will popup and give you several Acoin purchase options
LMB the option you want to purchase
That UI will disappear and the Steam purchase UI will be there to add funds
.... go through the purchase steps, confirm, and when done, at the top will be words similar to, X "back to game".
LMB the X and that will close the Steam overlay UI
LMB the Acoin Refresh showing the Acoins you now have

Enabling Steam Overlay
While in your Steam app
Go into your Library
Right click on Black Desert
Select Properties
In the General section make sure 'Enable the Steam Overlay while in-game' is turned on (blue).
Also, while in your Steam app
Top left left click the word Steam
From the drop down select Settings
Left click In-Game and make sure 'Enable the Steam Overlay while in-game' is turned on (blue).
Also, while in your Steam app
Top left left click the word Steam
From the drop down select Settings
Left click In-Game and make sure 'Enable the Scale Steam Overlay text and icons to match monitor settings' is turned on (blue).

Turn off Big Picture Mode in the Steam App
LMB the word Steam in the upper left
LMB the word Interface
LMB the slider switch, so it is not blue, "Start Steam in Big Picture Mode"
-also-
LMB the word Steam in the upper left
LMB the words In Game
LMB the slider switch, so it is not blue, "Use the Big Picture Overlay when using a controller"
Albatroza Jul 4, 2024 @ 10:01am 
Originally posted by Tsel13:
Steam players have two ways to purchase Acoins.
Add funds to the Wallet first (which doesn't offer many funds options) or In-game with a character out.
Are you using the in-game purchase method?

Acoin (In game buy method)
First make sure Steam Overlay is enabled for BDO in Steam
After that, while in-game with your character....
Press F3
At the lower left is the Acoin symbol and two buttons Top-up / Refresh
LMB Top-up
The BDO Steam overlay UI will popup and give you several Acoin purchase options
LMB the option you want to purchase
That UI will disappear and the Steam purchase UI will be there to add funds
.... go through the purchase steps, confirm, and when done, at the top will be words similar to, X "back to game".
LMB the X and that will close the Steam overlay UI
LMB the Acoin Refresh showing the Acoins you now have

Enabling Steam Overlay
While in your Steam app
Go into your Library
Right click on Black Desert
Select Properties
In the General section make sure 'Enable the Steam Overlay while in-game' is turned on (blue).
Also, while in your Steam app
Top left left click the word Steam
From the drop down select Settings
Left click In-Game and make sure 'Enable the Steam Overlay while in-game' is turned on (blue).
Also, while in your Steam app
Top left left click the word Steam
From the drop down select Settings
Left click In-Game and make sure 'Enable the Scale Steam Overlay text and icons to match monitor settings' is turned on (blue).

Turn off Big Picture Mode in the Steam App
LMB the word Steam in the upper left
LMB the word Interface
LMB the slider switch, so it is not blue, "Start Steam in Big Picture Mode"
-also-
LMB the word Steam in the upper left
LMB the words In Game
LMB the slider switch, so it is not blue, "Use the Big Picture Overlay when using a controller"

The problem is pricing, not the payment method, Steam version for example 1000 acoin if costs 3USD, on web (non Steam) version its costs like 1.5USD which is cheaper, because client uses Turkish lira as payment but Steam uses US Dollars.
Proctor Cain Jul 4, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by Albatroza:

The problem is pricing, not the payment method, Steam version for example 1000 acoin if costs 3USD, on web (non Steam) version its costs like 1.5USD which is cheaper, because client uses Turkish lira as payment but Steam uses US Dollars.

What BD region are you playing on with your Steam linked account?

WRT playing Steam games on a second computer, are those games able to be played with Steam offline?
Albatroza Jul 5, 2024 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by Proctor Cain:
Originally posted by Albatroza:

The problem is pricing, not the payment method, Steam version for example 1000 acoin if costs 3USD, on web (non Steam) version its costs like 1.5USD which is cheaper, because client uses Turkish lira as payment but Steam uses US Dollars.

What BD region are you playing on with your Steam linked account?

WRT playing Steam games on a second computer, are those games able to be played with Steam offline?
Turkey/MENA since im from Türkiye.

no they're not (most games I playing requires online profile migration/sync) support offline mode playing
Proctor Cain Jul 5, 2024 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Albatroza:
Originally posted by Proctor Cain:

What BD region are you playing on with your Steam linked account?

WRT playing Steam games on a second computer, are those games able to be played with Steam offline?
Turkey/MENA since im from Türkiye.

no they're not (most games I playing requires online profile migration/sync) support offline mode playing

It seems the Tr/MENA is different from NA/EU if pricing of ACoins depends on account type.

With the NA/EU 1000 ACoins costs US$10 irrespective of using a Steam linked account or a direct web account. I know this because I have two NA/EU accounts, one via Steam and one which is direct.

Something else odd with your experience is that according to the Tr/MENA website,

tr.playblackdesert.com

1000 + 100 ACoins costs US$5. It's not quoted in Lira. No mention of direct or Steam dependency.

Anyway, to answer your original question, Valve would get a cut of purchases made in return for having BD in the Steam store. Valve would not want players to be able to make purchases direct from PA, so part of the deal is that Steam created accounts can't be accessed via the web launcher. I guess you are going to have to decide which way of playing BD suits you better.
vkobe Jul 5, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Originally posted by Albatroza:
We should able to play through client too, why forcing players running from Steam exclusivity?
because you buy this game on steam and from peal abyss
Albatroza Jul 5, 2024 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by vkobe:
Originally posted by Albatroza:
We should able to play through client too, why forcing players running from Steam exclusivity?
because you buy this game on steam and from peal abyss
no, I bought the game from Steam during 2018 sale, and I just found problems and reasons I mentioned above ( Comment number #5 )



Originally posted by Proctor Cain:
Originally posted by Albatroza:
Turkey/MENA since im from Türkiye.

no they're not (most games I playing requires online profile migration/sync) support offline mode playing

It seems the Tr/MENA is different from NA/EU if pricing of ACoins depends on account type.

With the NA/EU 1000 ACoins costs US$10 irrespective of using a Steam linked account or a direct web account. I know this because I have two NA/EU accounts, one via Steam and one which is direct.

Something else odd with your experience is that according to the Tr/MENA website,

tr.playblackdesert.com

1000 + 100 ACoins costs US$5. It's not quoted in Lira. No mention of direct or Steam dependency.

Anyway, to answer your original question, Valve would get a cut of purchases made in return for having BD in the Steam store. Valve would not want players to be able to make purchases direct from PA, so part of the deal is that Steam created accounts can't be accessed via the web launcher. I guess you are going to have to decide which way of playing BD suits you better.

yes, TR/MENA still have local pricing applied, Im really thankful about that but on Steam side there's unfair and huge difference
5000+500 Acoin bundle costs 590Turkish Lira on website (18.06USD as Current pricing)
5000+500 Acoin bundle costs 25USD as Steam currency (817Turkish lira)

as you can see there's 227Turkish Lira difference for same package (its not small money either, we asked on PA forums but no one responded for our questions/ Requests, its really unfair, at least they should make something about this problem

we playing same game (server), we playing same content, but we forced to pay way higher prices because we have steam license but no direct, at least they should give us a chance for switching client version permanently from choice,
its really sad they don't do anything for this...
Maconijnr Jul 6, 2024 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by Albatroza:
we playing same game (server), we playing same content, but we forced to pay way higher prices because we have steam license but no direct, at least they should give us a chance for switching client version permanently from choice,
its really sad they don't do anything for this...

What you are failing to understand :)

Steam takes a cut, a percentage of all sales made on it's platform.
That includes pearl purchases for a game like BDO, so the client in this case PA has to increase the price to compensate for steams percentage.
If you are buying directly from PA,
i.e you are using their own launcher, then PA isn't paying any third parties, so they can pass that saving on to players by offering cheaper prices.

You are not paying more for the game or in game items, you are paying steam for using their platform and servers :)
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Date Posted: Jul 3, 2024 @ 11:49am
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