Is Garmoth site to positive about grind income?

[Gabber420]

I just wonder do I someting wrong? According to the site I shuld make around 350-400 mil/hour on Crescent Shrine. The site clam to get 16k of trash loot, but i can make arond 2,5-3,5k of trash loot. No for some reason i canno't uncheck the drop rate scroll, but will the basic scroll increes that much my income?

[Spectre]

The scrolls (esc>F5>8) feed the item gauge, which has 2 levels. The first gives more drop chance, which doesn't affect trash, but affects all item drops. The 2nd level gives more drop amount, which does affect trash. But 16k is the self-reported average trash with either level 1 or no drop scrolls (~21k with level 2).

The site is the average of players self-reports. These tend to be more hardcore players (because, who else but a hardcore player would take the time to fill out garmoth with their grind results). This means a lot of reports are likely well over the recommended AP for the spot, and e.g. one-shotting crescent guardians avoiding getting knocked down by them. Probably most of those reports are people 270+AP grinding there for infi pot.

That said, at ~3k, even if your gear is on the low side, you probably have a lot of headroom to tweak and practice your skill rotation to get more efficient without needing to upgrade gear. I'd suggest you watch a video of someone grinding a lower end one-shot spot with your class and try to observe if they're doing anything different, particularly in terms of pack-to-pack movement. It's well worth doing this since if bad habits sink in, over many hours they'll add up to billions of lost silver and longer grinds for rare drops.

[Uzkniso o.o]

Most of it is bs, if not all of it. Don't ever expect to make as much as they write in there.
Else, you will start to think silly things, such as, you will grind in some spot for 2 hours and make 100 bil.

Originally posted by Spectre:

The site is the average of players self-reports. These tend to be more hardcore players (because, who else but a hardcore player would take the time to fill out garmoth with their grind results). This means a lot of reports are likely well over the recommended AP for the spot, and e.g. one-shotting crescent guardians avoiding getting knocked down by them. Probably most of those reports are people 270+AP grinding there for infi pot.

Yea, the gains are inflated by overgeared players, creating an illusion of 1 bil per minute.

[Drandok]

Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:

Most of it is bs, if not all of it. Don't ever expect to make as much as they write in there.
Else, you will start to think silly things, such as, you will grind in some spot for 2 hours and make 100 bil.

Originally posted by Spectre:

The site is the average of players self-reports. These tend to be more hardcore players (because, who else but a hardcore player would take the time to fill out garmoth with their grind results). This means a lot of reports are likely well over the recommended AP for the spot, and e.g. one-shotting crescent guardians avoiding getting knocked down by them. Probably most of those reports are people 270+AP grinding there for infi pot.

Yea, the gains are inflated by overgeared players, creating an illusion of 1 bil per minute.

https://youtu.be/7Z2Nj4nCrlY


It's not bs, just saying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrkU0oipRzM

In case the previous video maker was too high geared.

[Drandok]

Originally posted by Gabber420:

I just wonder do I someting wrong? According to the site I shuld make around 350-400 mil/hour on Crescent Shrine. The site clam to get 16k of trash loot, but i can make arond 2,5-3,5k of trash loot. No for some reason i canno't uncheck the drop rate scroll, but will the basic scroll increes that much my income?

Never grind without an item collection increase scroll. Yes, the increases to income are that massive.

[Nhika]

I don't grind unless I'm on level 2 loot, or agris and level 1 loot.
Sometimes I don't even grind without agris because I'm lazy xD

So if you have agris + lootscroll you get 3 trash per kill, some even run agris and get 4 trash per kill.

So every pack of mobs - 6-10 group of mobs. That and it depends on your class. Guardian people say is slow but will hit 2 packs of mobs sometimes lol

[Tsel13]

If you choose to use agris in the area you're grinding and you don't want to look at the agris usage per grind area chart, experiment with it first.
See how much you make without agris in an hour and then see how much you make using agris in that hour.
Some grind areas will suck up your agris and give little in return.
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Some areas agris doesn't work in, like Upper Sycraia.

You really need "S" knowledge of the creatures you're grinding in.
It'll help your kill rate a lot.

Some areas in a monster grind zone are better than others.
For example:
At Centaurus, Garmoth shows one would make 375 mil silver and hour, but I actually make a little over 400 mil silver an hour there (using 2 levels loot scrolls and agris). Because I grind a spot that is dense and well packed groups of Centaurus.

At Ronaros Garmoth shows you can make 250 mil silver an hour there, but I make 350 mil silver (using 2 levels loot scrolls and agris) there an hour. Again, because of the spot I grind at.

You have to figure out what skills to use for each area and addons to use.
You'd be amazed on how much faster you can do a rotation with the correct addons for your class.

Make sure you have a boat load of accuracy.
If you are grinding in an area where you meet the AP/DP requirements.
If it looks like you're hitting the creatures, but doing little damage to them.
Up your accuracy with crystals.

I'm by no means a grind expert, but these help me in my grind.
Repetition is the key to success.
As Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider would say: You can do it! 😊