Too easy PVE?

[Syrin]

So far this game feels like an autoplay game. The PVE challenge it literally non-existent. Even the one boss battle I fought was simple. I took no damage, and they literally show you where it's attacks are going to hit. Some people have told me the early game is like that and the challenge comes later. The problem is that is what they told me about Lost Ark and the challenge never came, just a grind. This has Lost Ark vibes all over it. I admit I am still very early in the game, but if I play much more, I can't refund, and I don't want to hate playing 40 hours or whatever it takes to get to level 60 only to find more of the same.

Thanks

[Catalyst]

if you fight level 1 story enemies at level 10 you're probably going to smoke them. hard content definitely exists in black desert along with a lot of grinding but it doesn't come until a fair bit later

[Tsel13]

Mobs don't start becoming a challenge until the Stone Chamber main questline starts you heading towards Altinova and Valencia.

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

1. It's a hack and slash. This is not a souls like game and if it were, people would be going backward more than they are going forward due to how punishing deaths can be in the game due to breaking expensive crystals and losing XP.

2. MSQ and the the map indicators are inaccurate as far as optimal level for challenge and for quick leveling. Due to the numerous buffs that the classes have received over the years as well as gear that you can attain even on season servers, there is about a 5-10 level gap between what is suggested and where you could or should be going. This somewhat carries on into the mid game where the best/most efficient grind zones are where you are so over geared for the zone that you one tap everything.

There are a few more challenging bosses to fight and areas with more elaborate mechanics, but those come somewhat later and I don't know if it's going to be enough to hook a hardcore soul's like player for a lack of a better term.

[Tsel13]

Oh, you're looking for a Souls type of challenge.
Then in that case you need to grind in these areas.
01) Ash Forest
02) Elvia Realm: Orc Camp
03) Gyfin Underground
04) Crypt of Resting Thoughts
05) City of The Dead
06) Tungrad Ruins

[Spectre]

There is certainly souls-like content in the black shrines, but these are somewhat time-gated (you can only kill and get rewards for 5 bosses a week; the rank of the reward is based on your kill time vs other players). These are genuinely pretty difficult at C7, particularly if you don't have gear (though gear is not required to beat them), and has the souls-like thing of learning attack patterns and mechanics to defeat them. It's also pretty competitive.

You'll spend most of your time general-grinding, though, and the unfortunate thing is whilst this can be 'made hard' - e.g. try grinding gyfin under with <300dp - there's not much reward or incentive to do it, and a hefty potential penalty for dying. Given that you need to grind for 100s/1000s of hours, most players default to grinding the kind of spots they can do it watching Netflix whilst repeating a combo, rather than going at it sweaty, twitch-reflex style.

If you really do want to go at it sweaty, twitch-reflex, the content is definitely there (at even the highest gear score, dehkia ash forest can certainly quality as a challenging grind); but I'd think the main current issue is that this content isn't going to massively reward your effort doing it, rather than absence of content. So there is some kinda hope this will be fixed, but I wouldn't hold your breath. You can certainly find the challenge, but the game will funnel you towards the easymode grind based on how it's rewarded meaning 100 hours spam-same-4-ability grind is probably only about 20% less rewarding than 100 hours hardcore, perfect comboing, broken keyboard grind.

[Goblets]

PVE is very easy in this game, you are correct.

The question that is to be asked is; are you having fun or not?

[OutlawNix]

If you believe the PVE content within Black Desert is easy. You could give your self a challenge by using non enchanted gear and see how far you can get.

[Yoshi]

Originally posted by Tsel13:

Oh, you're looking for a Souls type of challenge.
Then in that case you need to grind in these areas.
01) Ash Forest
02) Elvia Realm: Orc Camp
03) Gyfin Underground
04) Crypt of Resting Thoughts
05) City of The Dead
06) Tungrad Ruins

Nothing in BDO is souls-like. This game has flashy combat, but at its core it's a lifeless grind simulator.

Don't play this game if you want PvE difficulty. All of the Open-World boss fights are boring, the dungeons are fun but poor rewards so it's rather dead content until you can do Elvia versions. Black Shrine is the closest you'll get to difficult, but its rewards are locked behind a weekly.

[Pew]

Originally posted by Tsel13:

Oh, you're looking for a Souls type of challenge.
Then in that case you need to grind in these areas.
01) Ash Forest
02) Elvia Realm: Orc Camp
03) Gyfin Underground
04) Crypt of Resting Thoughts
05) City of The Dead
06) Tungrad Ruins

How do you put orcs and gyfin in the same bracket as bloody crypt, lmaoo

[Karna5]

Originally posted by Pew:

How do you put orcs and gyfin in the same bracket as bloody crypt, lmaoo

You are a nasty poster, pew, and not smart if you can't figure out why some zones like orcs and gyfin underground are extremely difficult for non-end game players.

[Tsel13]

Originally posted by Pew:

Originally posted by Tsel13:

Oh, you're looking for a Souls type of challenge.
Then in that case you need to grind in these areas.
01) Ash Forest
02) Elvia Realm: Orc Camp
03) Gyfin Underground
04) Crypt of Resting Thoughts
05) City of The Dead
06) Tungrad Ruins

How do you put orcs and gyfin in the same bracket as bloody crypt, lmaoo

LOL
As Karna5 pointed out.
A Seasonal player with 241/243/305 would be pummeled in those areas.
Barring WooTheWinner secrets.
A difference between beginner Imps and those areas listed above are significant.

I remember when I first started, was exploring, and had +6 Talis Armor.
I stumbled through Tshira, which isn't a difficult spot, but I nearly died fast there just running through the mobs trying to find my way out. LOL

I figured, if the OP wanted to see harder areas with 241/243/305 gear, they could explore those spots and make a decision on if it is still too easy. 😊

[Justuค็็็็็็็s[FIN]]

Show me a modern mmorpg that has no easy early game PvE.

[Karna5]

Originally posted by Justuค็็็็็็็sFIN:

Show me a modern mmorpg that has no easy early game PvE.

In all seriousness, Red Dead Online has no hard/easy places. It's all equal open world and extremely amazing. I played RDO every day for 2 years though eventually retired from it and shifted into BDO.