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Sherekhan Necropolis, Pity Pieces
:sigh:
Sherekhan Necropolis hates me and doesn't want me to get Pity Pieces. 😊
I grind there in the daytime, with a 230.5% drop rate, and not a single Pity Piece drops within 1-1/2 hours.
This happens to me often.
If it wasn't for the weekly Pity Piece quest, I'd probably only have 2 or 3 of them after 2 months of grinding for an hour a day.

So, my question: Do Pity Pieces Drop more often a Night versus Day or is there's no difference?

Any suggestions?
I ask because my real life routine never has me in BDO during the night for the most part, so I would need to set aside a time where I could enter BDO at night.
İlk olarak gönderen kişi: Drandok:
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As I have said before you disregard which mobs drop the pities if you want to grind it fast. The ancient spirit is hardly ever worth how much he griefs your hour, but you can go out of your way for it if you wish to do so. Your goal when grinding pot pieces should be quantity of mobs, not ones that might drop what you need. Blendering through as many monsters as possible is always the fastest way to get the pot pieces, especially considering today's ap values compared to back when they took combos to take down.
A-Okay, I'll give the methodology you suggest a go tomorrow.
Crossing my fingers. 😊


Keep in mind that you want to be killing as many enemies per hour as physically possible, it doesn't really matter at all which ones drop rare things as the rotations containing the most mobs will give you the most chances in almost all cases concerning the pot grinds. Best of luck to you, and remember your tent/kama buff. Focus on improving your speed, not standing over the mob that drops it, praying that your grind is over. A lot of the stuff I say here is a result of mistakes that I used to make, and have since corrected too. It's very easy to get consumed in 'this drops what I need so I must kill this only' mentality, when forgetting that there's more mobs right next to you that have more overall rares packed in between huge clusters. Killing 5 elites that drop the full piece vs killing 500 standard enemies that drop pities with only an elite or two spread out in the rot will end faster for the pity player. If you get the full piece that's a bonus, but 100 pities isn't that hard with this mindset. The faster you kill, the faster you get a piece. The challenge isn't finding the right enemies to kill with the infinite pieces, it's killing the most enemies. It's also less mentally taxing when your whole goal is murder spree.
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I do a circle grind at the Necropolis.
I don't like running around in the middle.
Running around in the middle might be better, but I don't like doing it that way, so I don't.


You have your answer as to why it's taking longer than usual. Rotating spots the correct and efficient way will change your progression speed in bdo.
😊 But that's the thing.
I use the same exact methodology at Blood Wolves and Ronaros as I do at the Necropolis.
In fact Blood Wolves is my slowest grind.
Ronaros is my fastest grind.
Necropolis I make the most trash loot per hour.
In fact, because of this drop rate increase event servers wide.
I got 50 caphra stones today in my hours grind at the Necropolis.
I know that is nothing compared to Gyfin and some other spots.
But 50 is still great in my book. 😊
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Well, if 5$ when the tent goes on sale for the 200th time in the year isn't a worthwhile investment for 50% better droprate,
It's not how much but the principle of spending on it more than anything lol
Thanks for the vid but I have the free tent and to be honest i more often than not forget i have it lol the tent shortcut can be seen in the bottom left corner of the ♥♥♥ i posted :)

the tent buff is not the answer for me because if it was the reason it takes so long to get a pity piece, then it would have taken as long for me to get all the other pot(s) pieces :) some of which i got in extremely short amounts of time I say again It's only the fangs sherekhan piece I have had/have any trouble obtaining :)
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You have your answer as to why it's taking longer than usual. Rotating spots the correct and efficient way will change your progression speed in bdo.
😊 But that's the thing.
I use the same exact methodology at Blood Wolves and Ronaros as I do at the Necropolis.
In fact Blood Wolves is my slowest grind.
Ronaros is my fastest grind.
Necropolis I make the most trash loot per hour.
In fact, because of this drop rate increase event servers wide.
I got 50 caphra stones today in my hours grind at the Necropolis.
I know that is nothing compared to Gyfin and some other spots.
But 50 is still great in my book. 😊

50 is surprisingly good for a spot like necropolis. Also the thing with necro over the other two spots is that it is much more impacted by correct rotations considering the nighttime figures, and in the daytime the mobs are much more difficult to farm correctly outside of the meta location, unlike bloodwolves and ronaros where almost all the packs are nearly identical, at necropolis you're getting probably 30-40% less results hourly than you would at the rotation you dislike. 12k is also a minimum, not a cracked maximum. You can close in on nearly 18-20k at necropolis on just blue if you're doing it right. You really should also consider if you're not running a tent buff + blessing of kamasylvia, they really change how the pot piece grind plays out. The tent is free and you can probably accrue enough free kamasylvia time to have it up too.
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Well, if 5$ when the tent goes on sale for the 200th time in the year isn't a worthwhile investment for 50% better droprate,
It's not how much but the principle of spending on it more than anything lol
Thanks for the vid but I have the free tent and to be honest i more often than not forget i have it lol the tent shortcut can be seen in the bottom left corner of the ♥♥♥ i posted :)

the tent buff is not the answer for me because if it was the reason it takes so long to get a pity piece, then it would have taken as long for me to get all the other pot(s) pieces :) some of which i got in extremely short amounts of time I say again It's only the fangs sherekhan piece I have had/have any trouble obtaining :)

No your grinding speed certainly is. Necropolis is the most difficult of the 3 spots to rotate effectively, and really only shines once you start doing that. Even without a tent buff the other spots are quite easy to grind correctly, and of course the correct rotation will merit better results than just simply more droprate. I'd wager to say necropolis is the first skill-based grind spot in the game
you'll encounter, and that's due to sheer technical skill for night pulls (You can pull multiple packs at night at the same time for example), and during the day as I said to tsel, 12k is your expected minimum in today's speeds. Garmoth gives the average for very, very low gearscore players. You can get tremendously more than what Garmoth implies at the spot. Even at higher end spots like Hexe and trolls, most people that I see posting their hours exceed Garmoth averages now. It takes a while for the data to be filtered out as new techniques and tricks filter in. Even the oldest spots in bdo have recently been cracked wide open again as new techniques are invented. For example, it's been recently discovered that there are better pve offhands than kutum, such as nesser and ultimate green. But that's a very separate topic, just an example of the changes flooding through grinding in BDO at the moment.
En son Drandok tarafından düzenlendi; 21 Nis 2023 @ 16:57
İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:

50 is surprisingly good for a spot like necropolis. Also the thing with necro over the other two spots is that it is much more impacted by correct rotations considering the nighttime figures, and in the daytime the mobs are much more difficult to farm correctly outside of the meta location, unlike bloodwolves and ronaros where almost all the packs are nearly identical, at necropolis you're getting probably 30-40% less results hourly than you would at the rotation you dislike. 12k is also a minimum, not a cracked maximum. You can close in on nearly 18-20k at necropolis on just blue if you're doing it right. You really should also consider if you're not running a tent buff + blessing of kamasylvia, they really change how the pot piece grind plays out. The tent is free and you can probably accrue enough free kamasylvia time to have it up too.
Daytime: Only the Garuda and Belcadas drop the Pity Pieces, yes?
My Rotation focuses on groups that has 1 of each in each group, so 2 chances for a drop in each group I hit.
My next grind there I'll count the number of groups I hit per rotation and how long my rotation takes.
I know I finish each rotation pretty fast and it is a very large rotation.
The only things that throw me off of the rhythm are Afuaru and the Ancient Spirit.
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İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:

50 is surprisingly good for a spot like necropolis. Also the thing with necro over the other two spots is that it is much more impacted by correct rotations considering the nighttime figures, and in the daytime the mobs are much more difficult to farm correctly outside of the meta location, unlike bloodwolves and ronaros where almost all the packs are nearly identical, at necropolis you're getting probably 30-40% less results hourly than you would at the rotation you dislike. 12k is also a minimum, not a cracked maximum. You can close in on nearly 18-20k at necropolis on just blue if you're doing it right. You really should also consider if you're not running a tent buff + blessing of kamasylvia, they really change how the pot piece grind plays out. The tent is free and you can probably accrue enough free kamasylvia time to have it up too.
Daytime: Only the Garuda and Belcadas drop the Pity Pieces, yes?
My Rotation focuses on groups that has 1 of each in each group, so 2 chances for a drop in each group I hit.
My next grind there I'll count the number of groups I hit per rotation and how long my rotation takes.
I know I finish each rotation pretty fast and it is a very large rotation.
The only things that throw me off of the rhythm are Afuaru and the Ancient Spirit.

As I have said before you disregard which mobs drop the pities if you want to grind it fast. The ancient spirit is hardly ever worth how much he griefs your hour (unless he stays in your rot, then it's obviously worth smacking the pack he's sitting at on your way by), but you can go out of your way for it if you wish to do so, but I don't recommend it. Your goal when grinding pot pieces should be quantity of mobs, not ones that might drop what you need. Blendering through as many monsters as possible is always the fastest way to get the pot pieces, especially considering today's ap values compared to back when they took combos to take down.
En son Drandok tarafından düzenlendi; 21 Nis 2023 @ 17:06
İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:

As I have said before you disregard which mobs drop the pities if you want to grind it fast. The ancient spirit is hardly ever worth how much he griefs your hour, but you can go out of your way for it if you wish to do so. Your goal when grinding pot pieces should be quantity of mobs, not ones that might drop what you need. Blendering through as many monsters as possible is always the fastest way to get the pot pieces, especially considering today's ap values compared to back when they took combos to take down.
A-Okay, I'll give the methodology you suggest a go tomorrow.
Crossing my fingers. 😊

My pains: The Necropolis Billy Jacks.
They're like an annoying fly that buzzes all around. LOL
En son Tsel13 tarafından düzenlendi; 21 Nis 2023 @ 17:08
Bu konunun sahibi, bu iletinin ilk konuyu cevapladığını belirtti.
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İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:

As I have said before you disregard which mobs drop the pities if you want to grind it fast. The ancient spirit is hardly ever worth how much he griefs your hour, but you can go out of your way for it if you wish to do so. Your goal when grinding pot pieces should be quantity of mobs, not ones that might drop what you need. Blendering through as many monsters as possible is always the fastest way to get the pot pieces, especially considering today's ap values compared to back when they took combos to take down.
A-Okay, I'll give the methodology you suggest a go tomorrow.
Crossing my fingers. 😊


Keep in mind that you want to be killing as many enemies per hour as physically possible, it doesn't really matter at all which ones drop rare things as the rotations containing the most mobs will give you the most chances in almost all cases concerning the pot grinds. Best of luck to you, and remember your tent/kama buff. Focus on improving your speed, not standing over the mob that drops it, praying that your grind is over. A lot of the stuff I say here is a result of mistakes that I used to make, and have since corrected too. It's very easy to get consumed in 'this drops what I need so I must kill this only' mentality, when forgetting that there's more mobs right next to you that have more overall rares packed in between huge clusters. Killing 5 elites that drop the full piece vs killing 500 standard enemies that drop pities with only an elite or two spread out in the rot will end faster for the pity player. If you get the full piece that's a bonus, but 100 pities isn't that hard with this mindset. The faster you kill, the faster you get a piece. The challenge isn't finding the right enemies to kill with the infinite pieces, it's killing the most enemies. It's also less mentally taxing when your whole goal is murder spree.
En son Drandok tarafından düzenlendi; 21 Nis 2023 @ 17:23
RNG is RNG. You can better you chances with better drop rates but luck is still luck.
You can grind for an hour and get 6 pieces like you can grind for 6 hours and get none.

The only thing you can really do is turn your brain off and grind mindlessly, knowing that every pieces you get is another step toward the inf. pot.

I also suggest you grinding Sherekan at Night with the elites too. Don't skip that if you got the energy. They're often the ones who gifted me a piece after a full in-game day getting nothing.

-From someone who reached 62 in season grinding for the Ornette, which I finally got. :dealbs:
En son Leonem tarafından düzenlendi; 21 Nis 2023 @ 18:49
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2965498923

Just did a 1 hr grind test even set an alarm to stop me lol :) I used my Tamer because new class recently graduated from season and wanted to see how she did + I know Tsel uses a Tamer for their main so they may find the info helpful for a comparison :)

Results are above gutted the agris ran out before the end of the hr (35-40 min in), should have checked how much I had 1st lol would have got a little more accurate loot amount
I got 1 fang and that was at the 48th min (I checked time)

From what has been said above :) I'd say there's nothing wrong with my grind speed going off the amount of "Tokens of bravery" attained, a conservative estimate of 17-18k token items wouldn't be far fetched if accounting for the loss of agris time :)
İlk olarak Maconijnr tarafından gönderildi:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2965498923

Just did a 1 hr grind test even set an alarm to stop me lol :) I used my Tamer because new class recently graduated from season and wanted to see how she did + I know Tsel uses a Tamer for their main so they may find the info helpful for a comparison :)

Results are above gutted the agris ran out before the end of the hr (35-40 min in), should have checked how much I had 1st lol would have got a little more accurate loot amount
I got 1 fang and that was at the 48th min (I checked time)

From what has been said above :) I'd say there's nothing wrong with my grind speed going off the amount of "Tokens of bravery" attained, a conservative estimate of 17-18k token items wouldn't be far fetched if accounting for the loss of agris time :)


The figures I mentioned do not include agris by the way, just as a note.
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İlk olarak Tsel13 tarafından gönderildi:
A-Okay, I'll give the methodology you suggest a go tomorrow.
Crossing my fingers. 😊

Keep in mind that you want to be killing as many enemies per hour as physically possible, it doesn't really matter at all which ones drop rare things as the rotations containing the most mobs will give you the most chances in almost all cases concerning the pot grinds. Best of luck to you, and remember your tent/kama buff. Focus on improving your speed, not standing over the mob that drops it, praying that your grind is over. A lot of the stuff I say here is a result of mistakes that I used to make, and have since corrected too. It's very easy to get consumed in 'this drops what I need so I must kill this only' mentality, when forgetting that there's more mobs right next to you that have more overall rares packed in between huge clusters. Killing 5 elites that drop the full piece vs killing 500 standard enemies that drop pities with only an elite or two spread out in the rot will end faster for the pity player. If you get the full piece that's a bonus, but 100 pities isn't that hard with this mindset. The faster you kill, the faster you get a piece. The challenge isn't finding the right enemies to kill with the infinite pieces, it's killing the most enemies. It's also less mentally taxing when your whole goal is murder spree.
Okay, LOL
I felt like a chicken with its head cut off jumping from mob to mob, but I did get 3 Pity Pieces in 1 hour this time. Yippie! 😊

I grabbed a Power Church Buff.
It combined with my Simple Cron Meal and my Crystal Damage Against Humans layout, I was demolishing the Mobs in a blink.
However, using No Agris, I made less trash loot in that hour.
I only made 180 mil silver.
Normally I make a minimum of 210 mil silver an hour there, again using No Agris.

I did get more lucky drops this time.
Several Blue Crystals and 3 Orkinrad's Belts.
21 Spirit Powder
26 Caphras
Plus, armor/weapon blackstones and weapon boxes, etc....

In the end, I may have made less trash loot, but it is a much better method at getting Pity Pieces, so I say Thank you Drandok.
That is what this thread was about and your suggestion helped. 😊
En son Tsel13 tarafından düzenlendi; 22 Nis 2023 @ 7:36
İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:
The figures I mentioned do not include agris by the way, just as a note.

the figures I showed don't include tent or blessing of kama buff and just a 195.5 drop rate :)
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The figures I mentioned do not include agris by the way, just as a note.

the figures I showed don't include tent or blessing of kama buff and just a 195.5 drop rate :)

And the figures have over 50% lower trash loot, which is 200% less returns in an hour, on top of low drop rate. You should be getting more than you got without any agris at all, let alone the majority of an hour with it. More trash is a figure for how many mobs killed, which in turn means more chances for drops. Now I have had 3 hours at ronaros with 0 pities, 4 at bloodwolves with none, and 2 at necropolis without any, rng is rng and you need to record considerably more hours with considerably more trash to get an accurate readout. Doing a single underperforming hour isn't enough, neither is doing three or even five. The opposite problem can also be found with pot spots, where people get 5 15 pity hours in a row and think that the spot is just a joke, when they're just rng carried. The only reason I say what I say is that it's very improbable that everyone I know has had the same experience with all 3 spots, when there's over 400 total combined hours of data there.
En son Drandok tarafından düzenlendi; 22 Nis 2023 @ 15:48
İlk olarak Tsel13 tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak Drandok tarafından gönderildi:

Keep in mind that you want to be killing as many enemies per hour as physically possible, it doesn't really matter at all which ones drop rare things as the rotations containing the most mobs will give you the most chances in almost all cases concerning the pot grinds. Best of luck to you, and remember your tent/kama buff. Focus on improving your speed, not standing over the mob that drops it, praying that your grind is over. A lot of the stuff I say here is a result of mistakes that I used to make, and have since corrected too. It's very easy to get consumed in 'this drops what I need so I must kill this only' mentality, when forgetting that there's more mobs right next to you that have more overall rares packed in between huge clusters. Killing 5 elites that drop the full piece vs killing 500 standard enemies that drop pities with only an elite or two spread out in the rot will end faster for the pity player. If you get the full piece that's a bonus, but 100 pities isn't that hard with this mindset. The faster you kill, the faster you get a piece. The challenge isn't finding the right enemies to kill with the infinite pieces, it's killing the most enemies. It's also less mentally taxing when your whole goal is murder spree.
Okay, LOL
I felt like a chicken with its head cut off jumping from mob to mob, but I did get 3 Pity Pieces in 1 hour this time. Yippie! 😊

I grabbed a Power Church Buff.
It combined with my Simple Cron Meal and my Crystal Damage Against Humans layout, I was demolishing the Mobs in a blink.
However, using No Agris, I made less trash loot in that hour.
I only made 180 mil silver.
Normally I make a minimum of 210 mil silver an hour there, again using No Agris.

I did get more lucky drops this time.
Several Blue Crystals and 3 Orkinrad's Belts.
21 Spirit Powder
26 Caphras
Plus, armor/weapon blackstones and weapon boxes, etc....

In the end, I may have made less trash loot, but it is a much better method at getting Pity Pieces, so I say Thank you Drandok.
That is what this thread was about and your suggestion helped. 😊

No need for agris unless it's nighttime, but overall you're probably making a lot more trash loot, but unable to see it because you're used to Agris bumping it up. With practice and effort you will be making over 16k+ trash loot with no agris and getting absolute piles of fangs. Keep in mind that it is entirely possible to get zero in one hour, and as much as fifteen in the next. So if you want an accurate number for an average you need to go the whole way and get the piece from scratch with high trash to know just how fast it can be done. And I assure you, that with very high trash per hour, it won't even be in the same league as bloodwolves or ronaros :) Perhaps you could get unlucky for a day or two and drop 3-4 an hour, sure. But that's with every single pot spot, because as the saying goes..rng is rng.
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