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[Michiim0x33/ Koto / Mirco]

Greetings Do you guys have any recomendations for money spots 279ap megu/guardian

[Karna5]

My main is a 274/285/378 AP/AW/DP awakened guardian, so I'm approximately the same gear score as you assuming your 279 is with Kutum/Blackstar and not with Nouver. The extra monster AP with Kutum/Blackstar actually makes a difference for where you can grind.

If you do not have your health infinite potion yet, I suggest doing that grind first. It's a game changer. I don't think Guardian needs a mana inifinite potion, but I'm not sure about Maegu as I don't have one.

Use the Escape->Adventure->Monster Zone tab and look for zones that say they'
re designed for 260 or less AP. If you pick a place which says it's 270 AP you'll find your kill speed is so slow you make almost no silver. Elvia Saunil comes to mind. I make around 12 mkllion an hour thre *laughs* due to low kill speed.

But for health potion areas (Necropolis, Bloodwolves, Forest Ronaros) I make around 220 to 300 million an hour trash loot depending on agris whlie working potion pieces. (I have a full potion already but am working a second one to share with alts).

If your DP is high 350s or better you can probably do Turos if you do not yet have two hearts of garmoth and want to do the grind quest for a heart of garmoth. I have two hearts already (and 3 or 4 karanda hearts as well) but will probably grind for heart of garmoth at some point to make another heart for an alt.

Personally I like to pick a zone, try it for an hour or three and then decide if I want to add it to where I grind for silver. For instance, last week I did four hours at Underwater Ruins and averaged at best a bit over 50 million sliver trash loot even though I was one-shot killing all monsters. I also noticed Agris doesn't work at the underwater ruins. So I struck that place from where I'll ever visit again.

At some point I'll earnestly grind caphras, and then I'll switch from silver grinding to high caphra drop locations, but I'm not quite there yet. For instance, Thornwood forest is kown as a caphra grind area, but I'm still doing the health potion areas.

[Drandok]

Sycria all the way, it's very easy to grind with low dp and makes far more money than thornwood unless caphras are your biggest goal. It makes easily over 550m if you know what you're doing and cracked hours can yield over 700-1b silver depending on rng (5 tungrad hours for instance). Agris burn at centaurs for huge money (700+m) and grind constantly at kratuga or Sycria depending on if you clear fast enough. Kratuga can easily be an agris spot like centaurs as well.

[Drandok]

Karna5 lähetti viestin:

My main is a 274/285/378 AP/AW/DP awakened guardian, so I'm approximately the same gear score as you assuming your 279 is with Kutum/Blackstar and not with Nouver. The extra monster AP with Kutum/Blackstar actually makes a difference for where you can grind.

If you do not have your health infinite potion yet, I suggest doing that grind first. It's a game changer. I don't think Guardian needs a mana inifinite potion, but I'm not sure about Maegu as I don't have one.

Use the Escape->Adventure->Monster Zone tab and look for zones that say they'
re designed for 260 or less AP. If you pick a place which says it's 270 AP you'll find your kill speed is so slow you make almost no silver. Elvia Saunil comes to mind. I make around 12 mkllion an hour thre *laughs* due to low kill speed.

But for health potion areas (Necropolis, Bloodwolves, Forest Ronaros) I make around 220 to 300 million an hour trash loot depending on agris whlie working potion pieces. (I have a full potion already but am working a second one to share with alts).

If your DP is high 350s or better you can probably do Turos if you do not yet have two hearts of garmoth and want to do the grind quest for a heart of garmoth. I have two hearts already (and 3 or 4 karanda hearts as well) but will probably grind for heart of garmoth at some point to make another heart for an alt.

Personally I like to pick a zone, try it for an hour or three and then decide if I want to add it to where I grind for silver. For instance, last week I did four hours at Underwater Ruins and averaged at best a bit over 50 million sliver trash loot even though I was one-shot killing all monsters. I also noticed Agris doesn't work at the underwater ruins. So I struck that place from where I'll ever visit again.

At some point I'll earnestly grind caphras, and then I'll switch from silver grinding to high caphra drop locations, but I'm not quite there yet. For instance, Thornwood forest is kown as a caphra grind area, but I'm still doing the health potion areas.

At this point in time I'd recommend grinding raw silver and simply buy god armors outright if you do not already possess them, and if you do then you should be spamming orc camp until you're at 292 ap and then swap to gyfins at 370+ dp, as with both gods tapped to duo + like C5 boots and gloves you'll be able to grind underground, and it has a far higher caphras output for much less effort in my experience (aside from dodging red areas, the grind is just much less sweaty) PS 341 dp is fine for Turos as long as your partner there is geared.

[Karna5]

Drandok lähetti viestin:

...then swap to gyfins at 370+ dp, as with both gods tapped to duo + like C5 boots and gloves you'll be able to grind underground, and it has a far higher caphras output for much less effort in my experience (aside from dodging red areas, the grind is just much less sweaty) PS 341 dp is fine for Turos as long as your partner there is geared.

I appreciate that tip, thanks :) I've been working for many months on upgrading my gear myself but have been getting defeated repeatedly by RNG. when I finally succeed on the next step of my DP goals I'll be sure to try that :) thanks.

I do have PRI fallen god (I failed the upgrade to DUO and am not at the moment willing to invest 1500 cron stones per attempt until I complete the helm upgrade). I'm also working on replacing my TET blackstar gloves with Boss gloves (I have PEN blacktar boots so don't plan to replace those).

[Karradery]

dont play awak guardian. Succ does extremely more damage. I mean busted. If you want to actually utilize your ap you will ditch awak. Its insane the differenece.

[Tsel13]

I only look at Trash Loot WITHOUT using Agris when I consider an area good for me to grind at or not.
Just because you meet the AP requirement to grind an area doesn't mean it's a good spot for you.
If you cannot 1 or 2 shot the monsters in an area, then you will not make good trash loot silver there.

The problem I see with suggested youtube videos and websites are they suggest areas when they have an AP/DP of 300+/400+. That is not a true suggestion for an everyday player. Also, min AP/DP to get in will not allow you to 1 or 2 shot the monsters.
I was watching this one youtube video of this person grinding the daytime Necropolis and they commented on their Trash Loot per hour. It was very high, but I waited until they showed their AP and I saw it was 318AP. Well of course their Trash Loot was high. They were killing the mobs there with a simple flick of their wrist. That is not your everyday players AP.

I currently have an 278AP / 348DP.
I am able to grind in areas such as Hystria, Aakman, Kratuga, or Sycraia and they are great areas if I was grinding only for combatXP, but Trash Loot does not pan out, due to me not being able to 1 or 2 shot them.

I currently grind Ronaros and the Necropolis for my best Trash Loot quantities. Because of my kill speed at those two spots and my pets gathering speed, I can get 18K to 20K trash loot pieces an hour. Not 18K to 20K silver, but trash loot pieces. The silver is approx 250 mil to 280 mil per hour. Sometimes I get more if Jupiter is aligned with Mars. LOL If I am having a good grind day. 😊
The reason why I write without using Agris is because, you will not be able to use agris every single day. Agris is a temporary bonus until used up and then it has to recharge before you can efficiently use it again. Plus, the other drops you get are random, so I never include those.

When you grind different areas mess around with your skills.
I have found that some skills work better in some areas, but not as good in others.
Figure out what skills work best for you in the area you're in.

[Drandok]

Tsel13 lähetti viestin:

I only look at Trash Loot WITHOUT using Agris when I consider an area good for me to grind at or not.
Just because you meet the AP requirement to grind an area doesn't mean it's a good spot for you.
If you cannot 1 or 2 shot the monsters in an area, then you will not make good trash loot silver there.

The problem I see with suggested youtube videos and websites are they suggest areas when they have an AP/DP of 300+/400+. That is not a true suggestion for an everyday player. Also, min AP/DP to get in will not allow you to 1 or 2 shot the monsters.
I was watching this one youtube video of this person grinding the daytime Necropolis and they commented on their Trash Loot per hour. It was very high, but I waited until they showed their AP and I saw it was 318AP. Well of course their Trash Loot was high. They were killing the mobs there with a simple flick of their wrist. That is not your everyday players AP.

I currently have an 278AP / 348DP.
I am able to grind in areas such as Hystria, Aakman, Kratuga, or Sycraia and they are great areas if I was grinding only for combatXP, but Trash Loot does not pan out, due to me not being able to 1 or 2 shot them.

I currently grind Ronaros and the Necropolis for my best Trash Loot quantities. Because of my kill speed at those two spots and my pets gathering speed, I can get 18K to 20K trash loot pieces an hour. Not 18K to 20K silver, but trash loot pieces. The silver is approx 250 mil to 280 mil per hour. Sometimes I get more if Jupiter is aligned with Mars. LOL If I am having a good grind day. 😊
The reason why I write without using Agris is because, you will not be able to use agris every single day. Agris is a temporary bonus until used up and then it has to recharge before you can efficiently use it again. Plus, the other drops you get are random, so I never include those.

When you grind different areas mess around with your skills.
I have found that some skills work better in some areas, but not as good in others.
Figure out what skills work best for you in the area you're in.

You don’t oneshot places like Sycria and Kratuga they are combo zones. In fact, if you have over 300 AP like I do, you will notice that Sycria in particular still needs almost a full rotation to kill a pack due to sheer mob density alone. The mobs have enough hp that even at capped values for the area you will not oneshot them such as you would with Ronaros, and even if you could you would overclear every single rot and cap out at the same trash/hr as someone at 285 ap due to mob respawn timers. I hate to be that guy, but the reason krat and Sycria are bad for you is because you’re not grinding them properly. (And if so happens you’re playing the class that gets the highest trash at Sycria, tamer.)

[Tsel13]

Drandok lähetti viestin:

You don’t oneshot places like Sycria and Kratuga they are combo zones. In fact, if you have over 300 AP like I do, you will notice that Sycria in particular still needs almost a full rotation to kill a pack due to sheer mob density alone. The mobs have enough hp that even at capped values for the area you will not oneshot them such as you would with Ronaros, and even if you could you would overclear every single rot and cap out at the same trash/hr as someone at 285 ap due to mob respawn timers. I hate to be that guy, but the reason krat and Sycria are bad for you is because you’re not grinding them properly. (And if so happens you’re playing the class that gets the highest trash at Sycria, tamer.)

😊
Asking kindly,
Are you commenting on Upper Sycraia or Lower Sycraia (Abyssal Zone)?
I was writing that Upper Sycraia is terrible for Trash Loot.

[Drandok]

Tsel13 lähetti viestin:

Drandok lähetti viestin:

You don’t oneshot places like Sycria and Kratuga they are combo zones. In fact, if you have over 300 AP like I do, you will notice that Sycria in particular still needs almost a full rotation to kill a pack due to sheer mob density alone. The mobs have enough hp that even at capped values for the area you will not oneshot them such as you would with Ronaros, and even if you could you would overclear every single rot and cap out at the same trash/hr as someone at 285 ap due to mob respawn timers. I hate to be that guy, but the reason krat and Sycria are bad for you is because you’re not grinding them properly. (And if so happens you’re playing the class that gets the highest trash at Sycria, tamer.)

😊
Asking kindly,
Are you commenting on Upper Sycraia or Lower Sycraia (Abyssal Zone)?
I was writing that Upper Sycraia is terrible for Trash Loot.

I am referring to lower, as upper is a merchant ring/exp spot almost exclusively, also nice if you're out of loot scrolls.