Black Desert

Black Desert

-=)V(=- Sep 6, 2023 @ 7:24am
Upcoming Changes to the Silver Value of Cron Stones and Outfits
"The average Silver Gained per Adventurer per Day in 2023 is 5.06 times as high on NA and 6 times as high on EU compared to 2019."
But at the same time end game items cost 20 times more than in 2019!!!
Boss gear evolved into fallen gear, tungrad evolved into deboreka.
Conclusion is simple and obvious: nothing has changed, and it is even worse and more difficult.
Also: did the PA compare life skill gain, which in most cases is the same as when the game was released!!!
For example, the prices of imperial boxes have not changed since they were added to the game. My daily income from them is .... 70 million and the end game item costs 150-300 billion!!!
Pseudo barter changes did not improve income in any way, it is still 200-300 million .... per day!!! A day, i.e. for 8-10 hours of sailing. And let's add a few months to get a carrack.
What is the PA going to do? Will reduce T1 barter weight to 100 LT. What will this change? Absolutely nothing!!! For the barter to make sense, the weight of the entire T1-T5 barter should be reduced to 100 LT so that ship can go around everything in one go. But it also requires a huge reduction in stamina consumption. PA has increased number of slots for sailors, but this automatically affects smaller range of our ship.

You also forgot to explain the correlation between the price of crons and the amount of crons required to enchant.
As we know, the amount of crons used in the enchantment is equal to (or close to) the average price of items.
For example, if today an item requires 1000 crons, how many will it require after increasing cron price to 3m? 1000 or 667? Correctly, it should be 667 because 667 x 3m = 2b is the same as 1000 x 2m.
Last edited by -=)V(=-; Sep 6, 2023 @ 7:32am
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Makima Sep 7, 2023 @ 1:12am 
Not p2w. 🤡
Gabber420 Sep 7, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
no tax on CM
-=)V(=- Sep 7, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Gabber420:
no tax on CM
35% (15% with VP but "no p2w" in bdo he he) market tax completely kills any sense of selling anything in BDO.
According to the PA, this is good because it removes excess silver from the game. But what excess are they talking about since me and 99% of players will never accumulate enough silver to buy true best end game items.
A reasonable amount of taxes would be 10% (5% with VP).
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Uzkniso o.o Sep 8, 2023 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by -=)V(=-:
99% of players will never accumulate enough silver to buy true best end game items.

I thought that, and I can already afford a PEN necklace.
It's just a matter of time and perseverance.

Also, I highly doubt that the devs are going to touch taxes, ever.
-=)V(=- Sep 8, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:
Originally posted by -=)V(=-:
99% of players will never accumulate enough silver to buy true best end game items.
I thought that, and I can already afford a PEN necklace.
No one care soft cap accessories in 2023. So show us your pen deboreka collection (acquired in a year, not playing for 7 years) because this is currently a bis.
In any good mmo game (WoW, ESO, NW), EVERY player has end game items in a reasonable amount of time. Only in Korean MMOs, playing/grinding doesn't make sense because it's an endless story, so playing is pointless. It's 2023, not 2005, no one wants to waste years of their life on Cabal-style games anymore and Korean dev teams should adapt their games to Western audiences since they direct them to the Western market and Western consumers who are their main source of income.
So if there is no chance to get 3 x black star pen, fallen set pen and deboreka set pen during one year, then as above: there is no point in playing.
Last edited by -=)V(=-; Sep 8, 2023 @ 12:15pm
Originally posted by -=)V(=-:
Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:
I thought that, and I can already afford a PEN necklace.
No one care soft cap accessories in 2023. So show us your pen deboreka collection (acquired in a year, not playing for 7 years) because this is currently a bis.
In any good mmo game (WoW, ESO, NW), EVERY player has end game items in a reasonable amount of time. Only in Korean MMOs, playing/grinding doesn't make sense because it's an endless story, so playing is pointless. It's 2023, not 2005, no one wants to waste years of their life on Cabal-style games anymore and Korean dev teams should adapt their games to Western audiences since they direct them to the Western market and Western consumers who are their main source of income.
So if there is no chance to get 3 x black star pen, fallen set pen and deboreka set pen during one year, then as above: there is no point in playing.

You don't get why people play BDO. This isn't the Sooner driving your car to the top of Pike's Peak. This is climbing K2 if it was perched on Everest. There are items in the game that no one legitimately has acquired, but when someone does, its news will travel like wildfire.

This isn't the "Everyone gets an A for showing up" MMO.
-=)V(=- Sep 9, 2023 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by Fredericks of Cursewood:
You don't get why people play BDO. This isn't the Sooner driving your car to the top of Pike's Peak. This is climbing K2 if it was perched on Everest. There are items in the game that no one legitimately has acquired, but when someone does, its news will travel like wildfire.
This isn't the "Everyone gets an A for showing up" MMO.
That's how you explain the fact that you're wasting your life on a pointless game.
VRH Sep 10, 2023 @ 3:06am 
Are they going to raise cron rewards accordingly or will they leave world boss rewards useless like they are?
Originally posted by -=)V(=-:
Originally posted by Fredericks of Cursewood:
You don't get why people play BDO. This isn't the Sooner driving your car to the top of Pike's Peak. This is climbing K2 if it was perched on Everest. There are items in the game that no one legitimately has acquired, but when someone does, its news will travel like wildfire.
This isn't the "Everyone gets an A for showing up" MMO.
That's how you explain the fact that you're wasting your life on a pointless game.
I don't think anyone puts their game achievements on their resume or on their loan applications, all games are pointless other than the enjoyment you get out of them.

Obviously, you don't enjoy the game as it is. You should just move on to something that you do enjoy and stop wasting your time here.
Phlanka Sep 10, 2023 @ 9:03pm 
If your happy with PEN tuvala, then stick with it and grind in zones your comfortable with, you dont need to get the best in class end game gear and grind in Tungrad ruins, u can settle for less and be happy with what you have.

BDO does not respect player progression, you shouldnt respect it either, u can take a break and treat it casually taking advantage of any freebies it has to offer
Dimensionprova Sep 12, 2023 @ 4:32pm 
p2w or not/crons change soon ?
its p2w , but i dont have any problem with it. Becouse its mostly comfort, it need very long time to get full t4 pets without pay in. And same for inventory slots or weight.
But once you have put in a few money in it, it's already ez without paying then :p :happybs:

The only thing that annoys come later today with the crons change to 3mil

instead they should have introduced fixed prices for many things. The rich players often push the price down for fun or influence the market in their favor. This is often seen when many things are listed in the lowest price although there are none in the upper price.

Fixed prices would more help as 3mil to crons. I dont understand how this help the game.
Many new players need crons to get pen gear if they unlucky so its more expensive less enjoyable.

Hope Pearl abyss change their mind about this system in future again~
dbeast24 Sep 13, 2023 @ 5:08am 
Good idea... Yeah lets make lifeskilling easier so i can be lazy. I'm tired of grinding. Much rather make my gains being AFK in town.
-=)V(=- Sep 13, 2023 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by dbeast24:
Good idea... Yeah lets make lifeskilling easier so i can be lazy. I'm tired of grinding. Much rather make my gains being AFK in town.
ROTFL. Every life skill is active, but no one actively practices it precisely because it is unprofitable.
Training = catching horses.
There is no point if even T8 horses are cheap, why catch T6 horses?
Trading = can always be active, but what's the point if it's not profitable.
Sailing + Bartering = same as Trading.
Active bartering is much more profitable than semi-afk (Margoria and islands quests).
Farming = pointless, boring and wasteful of our energy, we get nothing that is worth active farming.
Alchemy and Cooking = here is not much possibility of active action here, but it must be semi-afk to get additional benefits (bonus quests).
Fishing = hot spots. Unfortunately, triple fishing rod is too difficult to obtain, and even after the latest Trading update which increased the price of fish, active fishing it is still worth too little.
Gathering = 100% active.

You tried to be funny but you failed.
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