What exactly do people mean by "Paywall"?

[shabazzia2w]

Do they mean you literally cannot progress further unless you put down some cash, or is it just a skip from grinding to catch up with other players?

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Wife and I realize that You are litterally losing hundreds of millions for not getting 5 pets and value pack. That is the wall to play comfortably for great players.

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Publicado originalmente por Mrs.Dabzy:

Husband and I

x100 why don't you ever just get to the point. c:

[Superior]

You can buy a lot with loyalty points, which you get for logging in daily. And a lot of events give pets.

[Ame]

Yeah but with those events it´s pretty much about patience vs. instant gratification. I mean, I´ve been playing for some months until I obtained a few free pets. I can understand people who want to stop picking up their loot by hand before that.

In my opinion there should be 1-2 pets in newbie rewards, because they ARE essential. They can be bad for everything but for picking up loot and not upgradeable from the lowest tier, whatever, but it would help immensly.

Value pack is tricky yes. But I know a few people from my friend list who successfully won a bid on them ingame. With ALT-relog method it won´t hurt to try bidding a few times a weekend or something. And meanwhile manage with the free ones (7-days and 1-day from loyalties).

[Superior]

Publicado originalmente por Merr:

Yeah but with those events it´s pretty much about patience vs. instant gratification. I mean, I´ve been playing for some months until I obtained a few free pets. I can understand people who want to stop picking up their loot by hand before that.

In my opinion there should be 1-2 pets in newbie rewards, because they ARE essential. They can be bad for everything but for picking up loot and not upgradeable from the lowest tier, whatever, but it would help immensly.

Value pack is tricky yes. But I know a few people from my friend list who successfully won a bid on them ingame. With ALT-relog method it won´t hurt to try bidding a few times a weekend or something. And meanwhile manage with the free ones (7-days and 1-day from loyalties).

They're included in the Explorer package which also went on sale a few times.

[Viper]

The game does not have a paywall. Its just people trolling. Sure you can put money into the game to progress faster if you wish. But you can also progress and obtain the same things without spending any money. People who use the word are just to dumb to know what it means.

[Domitor]

There's no actual paywall, but something will click the moment your patience gives out and you realize you can't keep picking up every piece of loot by hand, that you can't keep running back to a storage every 10 minutes when your inventory/weight limit kicks in, when you can't stand spending 4x as much memory frgments for gear repairs as someone who buys artisans from the cash shop etc.

You will wonder how people tolerate this, then realize 5 pets, inventory expansions weight limit increases and artisans will GREATLY bolster your gameplay. That is the so called "paywall." Otherwise you cannot afford these things, you may quit out of frustration.

FYI, I have not spent anything beyond the price for the base game and a dlc pack. I got my pets from the mp and I buy my gear pre-enhanced so I don't have to dump money into enhancing them. As for the inventory and weight stuff, I don't mind splurging a little when I begin my summer job.

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Their is no "paywall" per say. There is a difficulty mode though. You spend money on pets, weight, inventory, artisans, and outfit/s you are playing on easy mode.

If you only pay for the base game, you are playing on the hardest difficulty.

[Ame]

Definition of paywall is something you can´t climb over at all without a ladder (=cash), right? Or some legendary spiderman costume. Then no there is no paywall.

[Wispur]

I made a second account with the intention of spending 0$ on it after the intitial purchase to see if the game was as P2Win as some people make it out to be.
(Having spent quite a bit of money on my main account for costumes and convenience items)

So far, it's been absolutely fine.
I haven't hit a single thing on the free account that has made me go "Oh, I need to spend cash to do this!"

I was even able to buy a costume off the ingame marketplace so my character looks nice.

The *only* thing I've found myself considering spending money on was inventory and weight increases. And even then, I've managed to do without.

[RotherHans]

Publicado originalmente por shabazzia2w:

Hmm, thank you. So technically you could play the game without buying anything, just everything you mentioned would make it more enjoyable, correct?

Don´t thank him, pretty much everything he said was wrong.
Or the opposite of what´s needed.
What you NEED for lategame boss armor upgrading ARE artisan memory repairs.
You can buy ONE for 4 days worth of "login currency", but there´s so much other important stuff to buy with that currency, you´re pretty much forced to buy those for real money.

Oh and forget about "buying" anyting from the in-game market. If you got my game luck.
It´s basically a (buggy as hell) lottery.
I have a market maid(access to the market from anywhere, usually you have to run there) and maybe a hundered bids under the belly.

I managed to win ONE EFFIN value pack.

Still cannot believe that actually happend.

[Nox Tenebris]

Publicado originalmente por RotherHans:

Publicado originalmente por shabazzia2w:

Hmm, thank you. So technically you could play the game without buying anything, just everything you mentioned would make it more enjoyable, correct?

Don´t thank him, pretty much everything he said was wrong.
Or the opposite of what´s needed.
What you NEED for lategame boss armor upgrading ARE artisan memory repairs.
You can buy ONE for 4 days worth of "login currency", but there´s so much other important stuff to buy with that currency, you´re pretty much forced to buy those for real money.

Oh and forget about "buying" anyting from the in-game market. If you got my game luck.
It´s basically a (buggy as hell) lottery.
I have a market maid(access to the market from anywhere, usually you have to run there) and maybe a hundered bids under the belly.

I managed to win ONE EFFIN value pack. :ragebs:

Still cannot believe that actually happend.

No, your obviously just a neck beard no life. He doesn't NEED most of the stuff mentioned. He could use it, and it would be CONVIENT. But no, a casual player that isn't playing the game every second of the day like you are does not need pretty much any of this. I've played a long time and made another account and haven't spent a dime and I'm more than fine. So ♥♥♥♥ off please. Stop misleading people just because your a salt bucket.

[The Time Traveler]

Publicado originalmente por shabazzia2w:

Hmm, thank you. So technically you could play the game without buying anything, just everything you mentioned would make it more enjoyable, correct?

100%. And you can buy the costumes from the marketboard...and pets as well. It's very difficult but possible.
Some qualities of life cant be bought there tho...like weight carry increases. Those are cash only.
Also. as far as more enjoyable goes. The game is really really good. It needs none of those things to be good. Dont go into it expecting a deep immersive storyline tho. There is one. It's just hard to find and kinda diluted. Game is mostly make your own story. Do what you find fun. I havent been able to put it down in over 2 years now. Mostly because it allows me to progress while away from my pc and that works well with my reality(work,kids, etc)

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Publicado originalmente por Merr:

Definition of paywall is something you can´t climb over at all without a ladder (=cash), right? Or some legendary spiderman costume. Then no there is no paywall.

You cant climb over the ladder of having the ability to pick up multiple loot fast without paying for T4 pets.


So in your words

yes there is a pay wall

[Nox Tenebris]

Publicado originalmente por Classify myself as obsolete:

Publicado originalmente por Merr:

Definition of paywall is something you can´t climb over at all without a ladder (=cash), right? Or some legendary spiderman costume. Then no there is no paywall.

You cant climb over the ladder of having the ability to pick up multiple loot fast without paying for T4 pets.


So in your words

yes there is a pay wall

First, thats not a pay wall, its an inconveince. Second, it's called market place. I have friends who have bought every one of there pets from the market and events and logins give you free pets. I have like 10 different pets because of it and I only have bought 3.