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kitty Dec 24, 2021 @ 6:10pm
Why I won't play season character ever again
Playing season character shows everything bad in this game. While you can avoid these things on your normal play they force you to "graduate" and by that you have to
-gamble and ruin your gear (I just failed like 20 times to tet-pen my tuvala with 50-80 failstacks, game has audacity to ask me if I really want to use such high faistack and then fails and reduces gear level. 3 of my tet pieces now at pri - all failed to upgrade with 60 valks)
-grind
-run in shabby gear because there's not enough mats
-complete quests you'll normally avoid because it is boring/hard/etc
-half of the classes suck so if you picked the wrong one you have to suffer through it to the very end

benefits?
not so many. you can get all of it in the first 2 hours of playing (free pet from gifts and free pet/horse from snowflakes). 200mil silver. that's it. tet boss gear after graduation? it does not worth the pain. You can easily earn its worth by playing a week normally. Capotia? No use for high level char and you can also buy similar piece for cheap.

overall season is just a lure to force people gamble. I don't want to gamble when results are rigged. How I can fail many times in a row with such high failstacks? I made my boss gear on main char with less effort and less failstacks than they ask for this tuvala.
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Karna5 Dec 24, 2021 @ 8:23pm 
You're correct, of course.
Tsel13 Dec 24, 2021 @ 8:51pm 
Question: Is Fughar’s Timepiece being used this season?
If yes, at level 56 you can get the timepiece and switch out your character with any normal character level 25 or lower.
If Fughar’s Timepiece is being done this season, you do not need to graduate the character class you are not enjoying. You can graduate with a different character using the timepiece.
kitty Dec 25, 2021 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by Tsel13:
Question: Is Fughar’s Timepiece being used this season?
If yes, at level 56 you can get the timepiece and switch out your character with any normal character level 25 or lower.
If Fughar’s Timepiece is being done this season, you do not need to graduate the character class you are not enjoying. You can graduate with a different character using the timepiece.

yes, Fughar quest is there, I have that item in my inventory but it's hardly any relief. I completed all the quests from season pass and that progress won't transfer. That means I will have to kill 2 rift bosses, 5k mobs and other annoying things I don't want to do. All I need is to level to 61 and complete adraxxia quest.
Then even if I'll change class it does not remove gambling nature of enchantments and restrictions for gear. It will only add repetitiveness and won't solve most of the current issues.
Tsel13 Dec 25, 2021 @ 5:17am 
Originally posted by kitty:
Originally posted by Tsel13:
Question: Is Fughar’s Timepiece being used this season?
If yes, at level 56 you can get the timepiece and switch out your character with any normal character level 25 or lower.
If Fughar’s Timepiece is being done this season, you do not need to graduate the character class you are not enjoying. You can graduate with a different character using the timepiece.

yes, Fughar quest is there, I have that item in my inventory but it's hardly any relief. I completed all the quests from season pass and that progress won't transfer. That means I will have to kill 2 rift bosses, 5k mobs and other annoying things I don't want to do. All I need is to level to 61 and complete adraxxia quest.
Then even if I'll change class it does not remove gambling nature of enchantments and restrictions for gear. It will only add repetitiveness and won't solve most of the current issues.
Are you sure it does not transfer?
Two seasons ago I did the transfer when I was 3/4 complete with the Pass and my transferred character only had to do the last 1/4 of the Pass to graduate.
So, that is not what normally happens?
Phlanka Dec 25, 2021 @ 5:42am 
I feel u, they really ought to make it easy on the enhancement mechanics or find an alternative way to earn those PEN V upgrades guaranteed, and not force people to gamble on ridiculously low percentages after hours of gameplay
UrbanMech Dec 25, 2021 @ 6:29am 
Wait, what if the season is over? Is my character locked out until I do this?
Tsel13 Dec 25, 2021 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by NuclearPenguin:
Wait, what if the season is over? Is my character locked out until I do this?
No, your character is not locked out.
At the end of a Season your seasonal character automatically becomes a normal character.
What you miss out on if you do not complete the Pass is graduation goodies.
kitty Dec 25, 2021 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by Phlanka:
I feel u, they really ought to make it easy on the enhancement mechanics or find an alternative way to earn those PEN V upgrades guaranteed, and not force people to gamble on ridiculously low percentages after hours of gameplay

well, they kinds did guaranteed pen with Jetina and her daily tasks but that is hardly useful (you still will put too much time and coin into it, and you can't sell it afterwards except for upgraded chest). Probably they had to give more quests to earn upgrade stones and set flat rate for upgrade (X stones for guaranteed upgrade like we already have for lower quality upgrades).
So far this system feels unfair because you can get lucky and pen everything without an effort or get extremely unlucky and stay without gear and almost no means to upgrade it further. That's what annoys me the most - basing your season character success on gambling.
kitty Dec 25, 2021 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Tsel13:
Are you sure it does not transfer?
Two seasons ago I did the transfer when I was 3/4 complete with the Pass and my transferred character only had to do the last 1/4 of the Pass to graduate.
So, that is not what normally happens?

I read notes and it said quest progress won't transfer. Last 1/4 of the season pass has tasks that won't share with other family characters (like weekly or bosses). there are many quests that are shared with family (naderr band, pets, fairy and these you do once per family) - these will auto complete but the rest - most ugly ones will stay to be completed.
UrbanMech Dec 25, 2021 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Tsel13:
Originally posted by NuclearPenguin:
Wait, what if the season is over? Is my character locked out until I do this?
No, your character is not locked out.
At the end of a Season your seasonal character automatically becomes a normal character.
What you miss out on if you do not complete the Pass is graduation goodies.

Oh I see. thank you for clarifying!

Well I think season characters are still worth it cause it gives bonus exp and other free stuff even if you don't do what the OP is complaining about
I am taking a break from BDO now but I thought that the last season+ was fairly straight forward as far as enhancing. There were special blackstones that guaranteed TRI Tuvala without any failstacks. I think that I punched most of my gear through with 50 fs and then banked the 60s. I never even went out and grinded much mats and had plently left over. What has changed?
Last edited by Fredericks of Cursewood; Dec 25, 2021 @ 10:02am
The Grin Dec 26, 2021 @ 12:53am 
Yeah I failed + 6 NARU 7 times in a row and TET tuvala 12 times... 75% and 50% chance ? hahaha gimme a break.
Enhancement in this game is the worst and most undprductive gamble system ever made.

One thing I can say is that the previous season was easier. I don´t know what happened to the actual season but I am still locked with Naru gear after 4 days, while during the last season, I had full pen tuvala after literally 2 days.
Last edited by The Grin; Dec 26, 2021 @ 12:55am
kitty Dec 26, 2021 @ 5:15am 
I don't know if they changed anything or it is just pure luck. Like with any gambling you'll never know the outcome.
Karna5 Dec 26, 2021 @ 6:05am 
It took me 2000+ time-filled black stones, dozens of tuvula ore, all my low and medium failstack scrolls and around 150 armor blackstones (for FSs) to get my awakening weapon to PEN. It dropped from TET to PRI and back at least 20 times. Even with a 35% to 45% chance of getting from TET to PEN the last several times I kept missing and dropping down again.

Now I have to repeat this to four pieces of armor plus the sub weapon. *Sighs*

It's such a horrible game design, as bad as making people kill 5000 monsters.
The Grin Dec 26, 2021 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Karna5:
It took me 2000+ time-filled black stones, dozens of tuvula ore, all my low and medium failstack scrolls and around 150 armor blackstones (for FSs) to get my awakening weapon to PEN. It dropped from TET to PRI and back at least 20 times. Even with a 35% to 45% chance of getting from TET to PEN the last several times I kept missing and dropping down again.

Now I have to repeat this to four pieces of armor plus the sub weapon. *Sighs*

It's such a horrible game design, as bad as making people kill 5000 monsters.

Even tough I destroyed my whole tuvala set (wasn´t the case during last season....got full pen in 3 days....but not this time), have no ressources anymore to get to exchange my tuvala vs TET boss......I still got 3 tet boss on normal charatcers with the season build failstacks, TET centaurus belt 78 fs and TET Muskan and Leebur with 56 and 8o fs.

No pain no gain :s
Last edited by The Grin; Dec 26, 2021 @ 3:47pm
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