Questions About Sailing

[Karna5]

I mentioned elsewhere I couldn't figure out how to raise sailing. It's been stuck beginner's 5 after doing a few introductory quests in Velia in spite of sailing around for hours, and Im Doing My Part! made a helpful comment saying:

"You improve sailing mostly via daily quests, like the one in Velias port next to wharf manager (theres also the one time quest chain from Ravinia up in crows nest), thats 90% of it, the other source of experience is sailing but only above oquillas eye line, so anything to the north of it, into margoria, juur sea, port ratt and all that. The standard southern coastal sailing grants zero experience."

(Sorry I'm not good enough at Steam forum syntax to properly link and quote)

I'd like to ask a few more questions about sailing if nobody minds:

1. I once got myself a little boat and tried to sail around the mainland, but I got stuck for around an hour fighting currents that wouldn't let me go where I wanted.

Question: Is there a minimum size boat I should use, and are all boats less than that size effectively useless? It wasn't an issue of slow travel. I literally could not pass the currents at all.

2. Is there a recommended AP/DP level I should have on whatever character I pick to be my sailor?

Question: Would 246/246/299 AP/AW/DP be enough, or should I use something like 265/272/329?

3. One time while fishing on a dock I left the keyboard for 20 minutes or so, and when I returned somebody had scooped me off he dock onto their ship and sailed me into the middle of nowhere and then abandoned the boat. I tried to use Escape/Escape to get to safety, but it just stuck me on an island I couldn't get off until I asked BDO Support to get me off of it.

Question: What happens if I lose my ship in the middle of nowhere? Swimming against the current or using a rowboat doesn't seem to work effectively.

4. I noticed a lot of the map in the Seas is grayed out

Question: Will it clear when I find each area's node manager, or will I need to carry a compass?

5. I tried carrying food for the crew but couldn't figure out how to feed the crews.

Question: How do you feed your crew?

6. Sometimes somebody sticks their boat right under mine, and I can't access my controls because their boat blocks mine.

Question: Is there a way to get to my boat when a scalliwag player tries to interfere?

7. I have two or three boats and ships at different docks but can't remember where I put them.

Question: Is there a good way to keep track of where my ships are? I think one is in Valencia area (not sure which dock), for instance, but I remember it's somewhere I can't get past the currents to other parts of the map.

8. I don't see Oquillas Eyeline in my map.

Question: Does this become visible when I find the node manager, or is it just a known location to veterans? :)

These questions probably sound silly, but I really did spend hours and hours several months ago trying to figure them out and gave up.

[Lou Gascoun]

Hi !

Before answering, the post you quoted was spot on but forgot something of rather capital importance : there is a quest line that starts in velia at igor bartali (it's a level 53 one, can't remember the title but i think the tag is "oquilla's eye" if you look for it in the main quests) and that rewards you with a bartali ship at the end of the first part and enough sailing exp at the end of everything to become skilled 1. It's good to start with this cause it will unlock skills on you ships.

1. For quests where you only need to go place to place, get yourself a cog off the central market, they're pretty cheap and very fast, although they are "consumable" ships.

For quests where you need to kill monsters or barter, you need bigger ships : bartali sailboat (quest reward from a velia questline or buy for 10 million in the velia seaside tavern), epheria sailboat (build in epheria or buy for 500m off the CM), epheria frigate (build or buy for 1.4b) or their upgrades. These you can repair and put sailors on. The big ships allow you to furl the sails also, which means that if both wind and current are against you, you can at least mitigate the wind.

2. There is no minimum recommended, although some quest mobs on the islands can kill you outright if you don't have defense gear on, but you can kill them from afar with ship cannons so... You are invincible while you steer the ship.

3. There is an item (for sure there is a p2w version and maybe f2p too) you can use to "resurrect" a ship where it died. Otherwise, if you use travelers maps or teleport by dying, some islands have "shuttles" that go to and fro, but they are very slow and unsafe. Long afks while being shipboard are not recommanded. Also, for your fishing thing, there is an option you can tick while fishing to avoid this.

4. Most islands can be cleared by visiting the node managers. The ocean also has nodes but they're spaced out, and just like the desert you don't see where you are on the map unless you have a compass. Finding something in the ocean without a compass is very tricky, but there are guides online for it.

5. Crew can be "recovered" with special food from wharf managers or by making clam chowder. If sailors are sick, you need a special item to cure them. It can be found on the CM or crafted, i don't remember the name though, sorry.

6. Crowded wharves are a pain, but you can get around it this way : if close enough to your ship, you can click the small anchor icon (next to your horse icon, workers, fields, etc) twice : first time will get you near the wheel, second time will mount you on it, even through another ship.

7. I think you can see where all your boats are from any wharf but i'm not sure. If not, no idea.

8. Oquillas has a node manager and can be cleared. It is north and very slightly east of lema island. By clear weather you can actually see it from there. The permanently greyed out island far north of Illya is crow's nest. Can't be cleared, fortunately you don't need to go there often.

In the end, if you need help about sea content ask in group chat also, i'm sure plenty of people would be ready to help out, espacially for the sailies, which can become quite boring alone.

[Karna5]

Thank you soooooooo much, Lou Gascoun. You even answered some questions I forgot to ask such as how to use the cannons, haha. You said you need to be steering the ship to do it which helps tremendously. I'd thought I had to leave the wheel to use the cannons :)

I appreciate that so much, and you've helped me pick which character I'll turn into my sailor :) Thanks a million :)

Edit: FYI, the "don't board other players' boats" option in fishing only partly works. They scoop you off the boat and dump you into the water if you have that picked, haha. I reported it as a bug roughly a year ago, but I don't think they care, haha. Thanks!

[PuffyLunk]

Originally posted by Karna5:

Thank you soooooooo much, Lou Gascoun. You even answered some questions I forgot to ask such as how to use the cannons, haha. You said you need to be steering the ship to do it which helps tremendously. I'd thought I had to leave the wheel to use the cannons :)

I appreciate that so much, and you've helped me pick which character I'll turn into my sailor :) Thanks a million :)

Edit: FYI, the "don't board other players' boats" option in fishing only partly works. They scoop you off the boat and dump you into the water if you have that picked, haha. I reported it as a bug roughly a year ago, but I don't think they care, haha. Thanks!

This has been a thing since sailing and fishing was first implemented in the game. If you were fishing AFK on your boat over night, someone would scoop you, take you far away from your boat AND the coast and just dump you, forcing you to swim back for 2 hours when you woke up the next day

lol sorry every time I have something to say about this game, it turns out to be bad haha

[Karna5]

Originally posted by PuffyLunk:

This has been a thing since sailing and fishing was first implemented in the game. If you were fishing AFK on your boat over night, someone would scoop you, take you far away from your boat AND the coast and just dump you, forcing you to swim back for 2 hours when you woke up the next day

lol sorry every time I have something to say about this game, it turns out to be bad haha

*Laughs* Nothing to be sorry about in that comment. It deserved to be said, haha :)

[PuffyLunk]

Originally posted by Karna5:

Originally posted by PuffyLunk:

This has been a thing since sailing and fishing was first implemented in the game. If you were fishing AFK on your boat over night, someone would scoop you, take you far away from your boat AND the coast and just dump you, forcing you to swim back for 2 hours when you woke up the next day

lol sorry every time I have something to say about this game, it turns out to be bad haha

*Laughs* Nothing to be sorry about in that comment. It deserved to be said, haha :)

For what it's worth, up until the day I realized what this game was, I was literally having fun. Then it's like the blind fold got peeled off my face and I just can't go back to taking the blue pill and going into the matrix. Once you see, you can't unsee. My gear is still intact from when I left it, FYI: I'm not one of those guys that blew up his gear and left. I left with my gear pristine in case I ever wanted to return. Many times my friends told me to just do a gear roulette and see what happens, but nah, in my mind "I won" by putting the game down. In fact, I'm not sure anyway else of "beating BDO", tbh.
I'm a level 63 Witch, awakened with a gear score of about 490-520, I don't remember. Might even be 550, tbh, I was playing pretty hard. Full tet gear but blew up my tri tungson earrings when I quit so those are probably messed up. Using a Tet Ogre ring, have tet Kzarka, Dagger (from the worm, forget his name) and the staff or whatever it was from the desert dragon to Tet (was working on getting my dps to the right ceiling to jump to that weapon from my kzarka)

[Karna5]

That makes sense, PuffyLunk. I played RDO every day for a couple of years. I earned way more RDO$ and gold than I could ever spend, and I had every horse I wanted and every weapon I wanted and every trade I wanted had done everything I wanted. And I was talking to another of my Fallout 4 friends who was in the same boat. We both had an epiphany wondering why we were still playing RDO if we won it far beyond anything we could ever improve, haha.

We both completely set down RDO a couple of weeks ago. I still have my character and my wealth and skills and stuff, but I haven't logged in and probably won't again :)

[PuffyLunk]

Yeah, i was def over 550, I think I was trying to get to 560 or so, like I was nearly there

[PuffyLunk]

never got into RDO, loved RDR2 tho, one of my favorite games of this decade.

[Karna5]

I should mention I don't even consider god armors and the like to be goals for me in this game. Anything that requires farming 300 AP monsters is so far out of reach it's not even worth considering. I'm at 272 AP on my main now and can realistically see me reaching 280 (with Nouvre), but that's it. I very well may consider it having won and stop at that point because the gap between 280 and everything above it is ridiculously out of reach.

[PuffyLunk]

Originally posted by Karna5:

I should mention I don't even consider god armors and the like to be goals for me in this game. Anything that requires farming 300 AP monsters is so far out of reach it's not even worth considering. I'm at 272 AP on my main now and can realistically see me reaching 278, but that's it. I very well may consider it having won and stop at that point because the gap between 278 and everything above it is ridiculously out of reach.

Good because FYI that Temple in the desert doesn't get any easier once you get Pen, it's all an illusion

[PuffyLunk]

Originally posted by PuffyLunk:

Originally posted by Karna5:

I should mention I don't even consider god armors and the like to be goals for me in this game. Anything that requires farming 300 AP monsters is so far out of reach it's not even worth considering. I'm at 272 AP on my main now and can realistically see me reaching 278, but that's it. I very well may consider it having won and stop at that point because the gap between 278 and everything above it is ridiculously out of reach.

Good because FYI that Temple in the desert doesn't get any easier once you get Pen, it's all an illusion

Oh shoot, under 300? Yeah you got a LOT of wiggle room there man. Once your upgrades come with serious degraded values, you'll start looking at that cash shop like it's much more viable (if you are and the state of the game is still competitive, which you've already said you're not, in that way)

[PuffyLunk]

Oh, not to mention I could carry nearly 800lbs of weight and had 2/3rds of all my equipment slots unlocked. I never tried other classes, just mained witch the entire time.

[Karna5]

Originally posted by PuffyLunk:

...Once your upgrades come with serious degraded values, you'll start looking at that cash shop like it's much more viable (if you are and the state of the game is still competitive, which you've already said you're not, in that way)

*Laughs* No, I really won't. I'm happy to spend lots of cash on nice outfits to wear, but cash to actually play I refuse. I used to pay $40/month to play Ultima Online in the late 90s and around $30/month to play Vanguard 'til the early 2000s, but after that I swore never to play a subscription online game again.

I play GTAO and BDO and did RDO because they don't have subscriptions, but the moment it costs cash to play I'm out :)

[PuffyLunk]

Well, I'd do the events that had me try the new class and get them to 55 for rewards, but after that, I'd delete them.

[PuffyLunk]

I'm down to pay a little bit for content but that's it, BDO broke every rule I ever had with video games and that's why it's on the "naughty list" lol

Tarkov is currently the most expensive game I've ever paid for, which is $160 for the ultimate edition (which is REALLY REALLY WORTH IT)

Thinking about trying out Star Citizen tho, that'll cost me about $120ish for a nice ship to start off with instead of a life raft that can fly in space that they probably start you with lol