Black Desert

Black Desert

realtho Sep 17, 2020 @ 7:34am
any Pve content?
just searching for a kinda chill game , where i can relax in the afternoon . i tried ff14 but that not for me really. this game only focues on PvP? no dungeons or raids for endgame conent?
Originally posted by BLANK:
No dungeons or raids. It's not comparable to WoW or FF14 where questing and socializing means more. BDO is more tailored to hardcore oldschool players. A lot of grinding and dedication is a must if you want to be "successful". And no, the game is not really PvP focused.
It is open world PvP, yes, that doesn't mean it's a PvP game. A good example: Been grinding from lvl 1 to 62 on my new character and haven't fought a single person. I did not get attacked and I didn't attack anyone, even at popular spots with a lot of people there.
Life skills are more important in BDO than in any other MMO I've played. Getting equipment IS your endgame goal, basically. It's a long journey. You can't really rush that part, even if you spend hundreds of dollars you won't have endgame equip right away.
Some people might argue that the game is "p2w" and it's kind of a hot topic in the Steam forums, but I can assure you that I've seen worse. In terms of "p2w" it's comparable to WoW. You can buy stuff, put it on the market (WoW tokens) for silver. Which also means that you can buy stuff from others without spending a single cent, if you play a lot and generate the silver needed that is.
It's also a game where you have to set your own goal. The game doesn't tell you "go there and do that", like it kinda would with classic mmorpgs like FF14 or WoW. You choose if you want to be a genius at trading and manipulating the market, a guy that grinds for exp or money non-stop, someone who just goes around and PvPs random people etc. You goal could be as simple as: "I'm gonna build a big ass ship to sail the ocean" and that would already be a challenge.

So to summarize:

Very time consuming
Grind heavy
Completely open world
Best life skill system in any MMO
Slightly p2w and comparable to WoW in that term
Set your own goal and have the freedom to whatever you like
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... Sep 17, 2020 @ 8:23am 
end game is endlessly grinding by your self or be an afk life skiller. there are group content in this game but reward is garbage compare to solo grinding.
Jasvl Sep 17, 2020 @ 1:42pm 
No dungeons or raids in BDO. But that's just how it is. I believe that content wouldn't really be worth it to add to BDO, just look at the PvE they tried adding, it becomes dead content because there is no incentive to do it.

Typical dungeons and raids, give you some kind of chance at a Gear drop or material drop. However since BDO's progression doesn't require you to buy new gear every few months, what would that incentive be? Silver? Not really, as there are better ways to get it and many people already have their ways of getting consistent silver.
realtho Sep 17, 2020 @ 2:07pm 
but how do you farm gear?
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BLANK Sep 17, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
No dungeons or raids. It's not comparable to WoW or FF14 where questing and socializing means more. BDO is more tailored to hardcore oldschool players. A lot of grinding and dedication is a must if you want to be "successful". And no, the game is not really PvP focused.
It is open world PvP, yes, that doesn't mean it's a PvP game. A good example: Been grinding from lvl 1 to 62 on my new character and haven't fought a single person. I did not get attacked and I didn't attack anyone, even at popular spots with a lot of people there.
Life skills are more important in BDO than in any other MMO I've played. Getting equipment IS your endgame goal, basically. It's a long journey. You can't really rush that part, even if you spend hundreds of dollars you won't have endgame equip right away.
Some people might argue that the game is "p2w" and it's kind of a hot topic in the Steam forums, but I can assure you that I've seen worse. In terms of "p2w" it's comparable to WoW. You can buy stuff, put it on the market (WoW tokens) for silver. Which also means that you can buy stuff from others without spending a single cent, if you play a lot and generate the silver needed that is.
It's also a game where you have to set your own goal. The game doesn't tell you "go there and do that", like it kinda would with classic mmorpgs like FF14 or WoW. You choose if you want to be a genius at trading and manipulating the market, a guy that grinds for exp or money non-stop, someone who just goes around and PvPs random people etc. You goal could be as simple as: "I'm gonna build a big ass ship to sail the ocean" and that would already be a challenge.

So to summarize:

Very time consuming
Grind heavy
Completely open world
Best life skill system in any MMO
Slightly p2w and comparable to WoW in that term
Set your own goal and have the freedom to whatever you like
Acachete Sep 17, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Awesome review Blank. Couldn't have said it better myself. You really captured the essence of it.
realtho Sep 18, 2020 @ 2:23am 
i guess i have to wait then maybe for lost ark...
PantsuMask Sep 18, 2020 @ 1:12pm 
Sin, I wouldn't play this unless you just want to play it for a bit.. before waiting for something good. its an improper mmo, really has no content other than sit and repeat the same thing, over and over.. and you will have to buy stuff, people lie. yes you can get stuff on the store but people rarely, rarely ever full fill the order. its an online rng mmo casino. really utter trash afk singleplayer sim. with mostly idiots on the game. you will literally just get 62 then get bored from the fail armour' system and relvl or just play on a seasonal till you just kind of get bored of the boring game and move on for a few months, maybe log back on later down the road.
zyleeehFPS Sep 19, 2020 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Sin:
i guess i have to wait then maybe for lost ark...
Lost Ark is the best ARPG, glad it's published by Amazon Games in 2021 EU/NA.
Happy9000 Sep 19, 2020 @ 8:22am 
Id say the content in this game is made from the players, hence its a PvP heavy game. I advise not to play this game if you want to be PvE focused with interesting mechanics.
neo_bpm Sep 20, 2020 @ 12:11am 
This game is a grinder fest for players who love korean style. The low PvP content is destroyed by the unbalanced gear and level system.

Unistalled since months.
Sony Sep 21, 2020 @ 1:58am 
Blood Altar Gone ? ....

"Pay2Win" ....

Anyone wanna go Arena for Proof ? ....

There is no pay2win in this Game ... just Kiddys that cant play ... (thats actually why i quitted)

i mean who da ♥♥♥♥ whill spent 500€ on Customes just to have some Pen Trys ? ... which are not ... succesfully if ure unlucky ... do ur Math Homeboy ...

And dude .... i smoked guys that pushed thousand of euros in their account ... did not help ... because u still have to master all ur Skill points ...
Jin Yoichi Sep 25, 2020 @ 8:45am 
lets just put it this way, who ever has full PEN which is the max enchantment on the gear spectrum, will clap ur cheecks no matter HOW skillful you are loll, i wanna quit this game but i've already invested HOURS and $ into it, the PVP is garbage and i'm sure some dumbass is gonna be like "Gitgud" loll bruh i'm full pen and the combat is still ♥♥♥♥ in pvp.... BDO was ment to be Single-player and you'll start to notice that with the graphics pop-ins and NPC dialogs and other crap, but instead they were like ohh lets make it MP and live of it... hance to why crimson desert is the next "BDO" single-player experience.... bdo is a good game, but it lacks sooo much it makes it pointless to play, the community is 100% toxic PERIOD... guilds are pointless since they rather make people who are better than you 'Stand out' and give them better paychecks.. yes u get paid by being in a guild... it sucks at first but you gotta do guild missions in order to increase your payout however... guild leaders can distribute upto 9 Mils when ever they want to.. completing missions also grants you MONEY, guild officers take advantage of this ♥♥♥♥ SO HARD because u can grind G missions every 10 minutes and each missions payout is like... 9-10mils, you see a lot of new guilds because nobody wants to bother with a garbage GM that only thinks for himself...

TLDR
BDO is a Good and BAD game... unless you have the time don't bother.... this game is heavily reliable on time sinking, there's no 'End game' there's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ PVE endless grind or garbage PVP where everyone kills you in 1 hit, life skilling would be PVE but its mostly DONE afk... again time sink...
Boru Jan 29, 2021 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Sony:
Blood Altar Gone ? ....

"Pay2Win" ....

Anyone wanna go Arena for Proof ? ....

There is no pay2win in this Game ... just Kiddys that cant play ... (thats actually why i quitted)

i mean who da ♥♥♥♥ whill spent 500€ on Customes just to have some Pen Trys ? ... which are not ... succesfully if ure unlucky ... do ur Math Homeboy ...

And dude .... i smoked guys that pushed thousand of euros in their account ... did not help ... because u still have to master all ur Skill points ...

You are a Edgelord.
Common guy, not everybody is highlander like you... a casual player that just arrives at bdo clearly sees and feels the difference of the p2w ♥♥♥♥ in game, common, burst that little bubble that you live in.
BLANK Jan 29, 2021 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Boru:
Originally posted by Sony:
Blood Altar Gone ? ....

"Pay2Win" ....

Anyone wanna go Arena for Proof ? ....

There is no pay2win in this Game ... just Kiddys that cant play ... (thats actually why i quitted)

i mean who da ♥♥♥♥ whill spent 500€ on Customes just to have some Pen Trys ? ... which are not ... succesfully if ure unlucky ... do ur Math Homeboy ...

And dude .... i smoked guys that pushed thousand of euros in their account ... did not help ... because u still have to master all ur Skill points ...

You are a Edgelord.
Common guy, not everybody is highlander like you... a casual player that just arrives at bdo clearly sees and feels the difference of the p2w ♥♥♥♥ in game, common, burst that little bubble that you live in.

Funny you talk about new players and p2w. My two friends who joined a few months back are actually happy with how everything is handled compared to other mmorpg's that are non-subscription based.
And so am I. I've played countless of mmorpg's and I can say with confidence that BDO is not p2w. Sure, you can get some advantages by paying a few bucks, like a permanent tent with buffs, or you could spend thousands of dollars to GAMBLE and try to PEN an item by extracting cron stones from costumes. Is it efficient? No? Are there crazy rich people who do it anyway? Sure. But the number is probably somewhere around ~1% of the playerbase.
And what I just described is pay to progress, even though highly inefficient except for the tent.
P2W would be if the game would let you outright buy a piece of equipment from the Pearl Shop that is unobtainable otherwise and on par with endgame gear or better. That is not the case in Black Desert Online. Newbies or people who are generally new to mmorpg's tend to say that BDO is p2w because of its slow progression. Not everything in BDO is meant to be achievable in under a year and players who have played the game much longer have obviously the edge on newer players. It's just how it is.
Black Desert Online is the Korean equivalent to RuneScape.
Nain Jan 30, 2021 @ 2:24am 
Originally posted by Sintho:
i guess i have to wait then maybe for lost ark...

i am a casual bdo player. the thing is, yes, it can be grindy IF you want to get all this precious topnotch pen gear, but on the other hand, its a sandbox mmo, so you dont have to!

lifeskilling alone and exploring the huge world is really fun, my highest char is 56.5 right now and i just entered the big desert, so i basically have just like less then 50% of the map explored, theres just so much to see and gather everywhere.

i cannot comment on endgame pvp ganking and all the things on that level. all i can say is, if you want to have fun in this game, its on you how to make that fun. its not a themepark mmo like wow where you follow the shiny yellow road repeat the same dungeons and raids over and over at the end because theres nothing else of value.

and if you are intimidated by potential pvp, start on a season server, those are without pvp and more relaxing.

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Date Posted: Sep 17, 2020 @ 7:34am
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