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A Wild Teemo 30 stycznia 2018 o 17:41
Horse Experience and Training Level.
Heyo, I have been searching and searching for some newer updated info on horse training experience and the difference that the Training level gives you when training your horses.

I have also been wondering exactly the amount of experience each horse gets when training them on a wagon compared to singley. Yes i know single horse training is faster but if i want to level more than just one, i have a merchant wagon and was wondering if each horse gets 25% of the exp to make 100% or if its simple broken up differently.

And finally, i would also like to know if the training level of my character increases the likeliness to gain more skills on a horse.

If anyone could give me some feedback that would be helpful in answering these questions i have it would be greatly appreciated! I love breeeding horses and training them afk as well as training them sometimes manually to finish off their final levels! Thanks in advance for the comments <3
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Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 17:19 
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Training level affects the xp gain of your horse
it doesnt. whats with all the misinformation on this forums

Open BDO and hover over training, it says it does.
Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 17:24 
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Interesting! The base is 100 for wagons, isn't it? My t7 lvl 23 non stalion is 139.4. I will test this once the server is back to normal and not desyncing. Maybe I'm losing out and not doing this optimally, then again exchanging horses and the male/female breeds you might need to work on invidiual horses most of the time.

Actually, since you can put 4 horses on a merchant wagon, I usually put 1 male and 2 females and then either add the male from the next breeding set I'm planning, or a low tier horse I'm planning on Imperial Trading.

I don't know if the 100% base on the wagon is the same as 100% horse speed, but I find the wagon to be the easiest way to level breeding groups.

When I go with my method I fully use the 2 females that I get on every breed rotation (T5 - T7 non corsers). So i train one extra male horse solo to make it useable for the exchange. I do have lots of T5s and T5 is cheap for a chance to get a T6 - T8.

angelo 31 stycznia 2018 o 18:29 
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it doesnt. whats with all the misinformation on this forums

Open BDO and hover over training, it says it does.
again that hasnt been updated in ages and it was most likely a translation mistake, just like fishing says that it helps with durability but it doesnt.
a lot people has done multiple test and the results are always the same, horse training does nothing to help with horse exp, only skill exp but that is pretty much useless.
Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 19:30 
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Open BDO and hover over training, it says it does.
again that hasnt been updated in ages and it was most likely a translation mistake, just like fishing says that it helps with durability but it doesnt.
a lot people has done multiple test and the results are always the same, horse training does nothing to help with horse exp, only skill exp but that is pretty much useless.

No outfits or 30%.

Beginner 8

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930469/4B13D97122CB8854E3D31D2523AC2A3BACBD4CC0/ 211711

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930699/90560366AE026FE97FACCEA69E738A8B0242C330/ 212251


Prof 4
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078929933/C65DE0457943C67E847F2B2FE43631BDBFB6A46D/ 236,089

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930195/8F14AF8876E5934D9CE12E205FC3DEF66AD694C8/ 236.673

I did quick math 2+2=4 minus 1 = 3 Beginner 8 540 per tick, Prof 4 584 per tick.

Can you post some other testings from multiple sources so I can be sure? I probably did it wrong. I be happy to see if you can post yours.
angelo 31 stycznia 2018 o 21:14 
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again that hasnt been updated in ages and it was most likely a translation mistake, just like fishing says that it helps with durability but it doesnt.
a lot people has done multiple test and the results are always the same, horse training does nothing to help with horse exp, only skill exp but that is pretty much useless.

No outfits or 30%.

Beginner 8

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930469/4B13D97122CB8854E3D31D2523AC2A3BACBD4CC0/ 211711

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930699/90560366AE026FE97FACCEA69E738A8B0242C330/ 212251


Prof 4
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078929933/C65DE0457943C67E847F2B2FE43631BDBFB6A46D/ 236,089

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930195/8F14AF8876E5934D9CE12E205FC3DEF66AD694C8/ 236.673

I did quick math 2+2=4 minus 1 = 3 Beginner 8 540 per tick, Prof 4 584 per tick.

Can you post some other testings from multiple sources so I can be sure? I probably did it wrong. I be happy to see if you can post yours.
you did that test with horses that have different speed, the second one was faster so he got more exp
https://i.imgur.com/AmBPzUZ.jpg
this was with 2 t1 lvl1 horses that you can buy from the stable npc for 15k and a profe2 and beginner4, in 5 minutes of autopathing both of the got almost the same exp, the second got like 80 less exp but that can be attributed to the fact that the first one got 0.2% more speed at lvl up (those stats are random, not sure if traning helps with that)
Ostatnio edytowany przez: angelo; 31 stycznia 2018 o 21:15
Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 21:31 

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No outfits or 30%.

Beginner 8

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930469/4B13D97122CB8854E3D31D2523AC2A3BACBD4CC0/ 211711

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930699/90560366AE026FE97FACCEA69E738A8B0242C330/ 212251


Prof 4
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078929933/C65DE0457943C67E847F2B2FE43631BDBFB6A46D/ 236,089

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/930426171078930195/8F14AF8876E5934D9CE12E205FC3DEF66AD694C8/ 236.673

I did quick math 2+2=4 minus 1 = 3 Beginner 8 540 per tick, Prof 4 584 per tick.

Can you post some other testings from multiple sources so I can be sure? I probably did it wrong. I be happy to see if you can post yours.
you did that test with horses that have different speed, the second one was faster so he got more exp
https://i.imgur.com/AmBPzUZ.jpg
this was with 2 t1 lvl1 horses that you can buy from the stable npc for 15k and a profe2 and beginner4, in 5 minutes of autopathing both of the got almost the same exp, the second got like 80 less exp but that can be attributed to the fact that the first one got 0.2% more speed at lvl up (those stats are random, not sure if traning helps with that)

Just so you know the xp tick is by distance not speed. I'm not counting seconds (in the picture case per minute) or per hour rate i'm counting xp ticks.

Also next time show the character training data that way we can be sure which one is which. Like what I did.

I am on my way to sand grain bazaar with my Maewha to show the procs it does PER TICK.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Boink; 31 stycznia 2018 o 21:37
A Wild Teemo 31 stycznia 2018 o 22:07 
I have been doing some tests over the course of today and ive found that every tic i marked down is giving different numbers of experience, but nothing has been changed has this been taken in to consideration?
The numbers of 9 tics from a Tier 6 Female, at Level 19 with my venia riding attire and the +2 enchanted trainers clothes, plus wearing the Trina Horse gear set, and the Horseshoes of Fighting Spirit enchantment of +7 are as follows:

Tic 1: 766
Tic 2: 727
Tic 3: 738
Tic 4: 731
Tic 5: 728
Tic 6: 735
Tic 7: 767
Tic 8: 729
Tic 9: 764

As i find this info partially important in the calculations and such of the training levels and overall training in general. Hope this bit of info is helpful in everyones debates and such. but i do agree the overlay of the Life skills and what they do when increasing the level of a life skill has been updated recently, so it should be correct as far as the game makers have it shown when hovering over the life skill.
PS.. Skilled 1 Training Level
Ostatnio edytowany przez: A Wild Teemo; 31 stycznia 2018 o 22:13
Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 22:09 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1287908103 241983

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1287908137 242584

601 per tick. Compare to my Maewha results which is 540. Looks like it procs better?

Your data even supports the claim that training horses gives more xp per lvl. Or unless maybe you truly believe .2% of that 90% speed somehow you got 84 out of a 4900 average. Or maybe you lagged sometimes in those training times. Who knows?
Boink 31 stycznia 2018 o 22:27 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Teemo_^.^:
I have been doing some tests over the course of today and ive found that every tic i marked down is giving different numbers of experience, but nothing has been changed has this been taken in to consideration?
The numbers of 9 tics from a Tier 6 Female, at Level 19 with my venia riding attire and the +2 enchanted trainers clothes, plus wearing the Trina Horse gear set, and the Horseshoes of Fighting Spirit enchantment of +7 are as follows:

Tic 1: 766
Tic 2: 727
Tic 3: 738
Tic 4: 731
Tic 5: 728
Tic 6: 735
Tic 7: 767
Tic 8: 729
Tic 9: 764

As i find this info partially important in the calculations and such of the training levels and overall training in general. Hope this bit of info is helpful in everyones debates and such. but i do agree the overlay of the Life skills and what they do when increasing the level of a life skill has been updated recently, so it should be correct as far as the game makers have it shown when hovering over the life skill.

Yeah I will check up on this since aparently it has different proc lvls. I didn't even know that until I got a different result with my tamer. Maybe make a 3rd control subject + my maewha and tamer to see if the fluctuations are different. I will test when the servers are fix.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Boink; 31 stycznia 2018 o 22:27
Rizzly 1 lutego 2018 o 2:43 
Each horse gets their own exp, however a 4-horse wagon is much faster than a single horse galloping 4 times to level 30. And Training level does affect the exp gained but a really small %.
NinjAsylum 25 sierpnia 2018 o 5:34 
540 per tick to 584 per tick is barely negligible.
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