Black Desert

Black Desert

Mystery Jul 23, 2019 @ 4:39pm
Something needs to be done about this "amazing" market
I am a new player and this is the kind of garbage that makes me quit (aka mismanaged games).

Don't get me wrong...
I don't mind grinding for long hours
I don't mind some essential cash shop items (pets)
I don't mind RNG and casino-like BS
I don't mind grinding and spamming the same quest/objective
I don't hard/challenging content

but WHEN YOU 'BLOCK' ME FROM PROGRESS NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM

WHAT THE #### IS THIS?

https://imgur.com/a/sKEjZmB

Developers, I know you are reading this. I would love an explanation.
Last edited by Mystery; Jul 23, 2019 @ 4:40pm
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Vault Hunter 101 Jul 23, 2019 @ 6:59pm 
What seems to be the problem? High demand and not enough supply on certain items..You don't need to buy any of them to enjoy the game

you know you can just grind them right? Or if you complain about "high" prices then know what once you level up it will be nothing to you, you will make milions per hour and get few extra daily from the game just for logging in
Mystery Jul 23, 2019 @ 7:43pm 
So you're saying that not having enough materials in the WHOLE economy is "ok"?
It's ok if there are over 2k pre-orders with MAX price? ROFL...
It might not be you personally but I think the game has taught you to think like that

Thanks, think I got what I came for.
Vault Hunter 101 Jul 23, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
It's not that it isn't enough, people just don't want to trade them, some stuff is better to be saved for yourself rather than getting what the max price suggest.

If the game allowed market to go beyond max price then you would see those items traded normally but with 10 or maybe even 100 times the price you see.

You make it sound like those are some super must have items but nobody can get them, no its not like that.
Hugz Jul 23, 2019 @ 9:46pm 
There are a few different ways to get shards, and doing your life skills can lead to quests to give you some. It wont be really fast, but if your smart about it, you can AFK a large amount of it.

I do agree tho, this game can at times blocks progression, or can be really poorly labeled as to your different options of progression.
Last edited by Hugz; Jul 23, 2019 @ 9:48pm
★ X Jul 24, 2019 @ 1:06am 
You know if wanna get sharp just buy ancient weapon core/witch earring/necklace of good deeds process it by heating and u will get 1-2 sharps . The game doesnt block anything tbh there are alternatives
Ceytin Jul 24, 2019 @ 1:10am 
hards, sharps, and concentrated are bought out now because of the new class so people used up the supply enhancing gear, also if the demand for hards and sharps etc is high meet that demand by gathering those resources to sell, as far as urugons and value packs go those items are highly sought after by the community and thus hard to obtain, value packs aren't required they are helpful for setting up distant nodes and the weight limit, but hardly required for play just put in an offer and wait you'll get one eventually.
Last edited by Ceytin; Jul 24, 2019 @ 1:11am
123 Jul 24, 2019 @ 1:47am 
I just put a preorder up. usually get one in a few hours
Last edited by 123; Jul 24, 2019 @ 1:57am
HyperBlast Jul 24, 2019 @ 2:10am 
I imagine life skill players have become less active, and they probably sell most of their hard/sharp stones. Soon you will have a new problem. My biggest blockage right now is cron stones, can't risk accessory blowing up or failing tet.


And why would someone that whales sell a 30-day value pack: the real-world cost of a value pack significantly outweighs the silver gained from the in-game market.

Last edited by HyperBlast; Jul 24, 2019 @ 3:11am
Subway Jul 24, 2019 @ 5:17am 
Tbh I dont get ur problem.
I started playing bdo one week ago and never experienced any progression problems.
And nah, im not whaling, just bought the game + 2 pets. Still reached softcap without any problem
Last edited by Subway; Jul 24, 2019 @ 5:17am
Gvantsa Jul 24, 2019 @ 5:25am 
Those are simply in-demand items. Many of which you can get yourself as you play the game from grinding, quests, or from game events. Value pack has been annoying to get in the new marketplace though and that's the only cash shop item on your list. It's really not as bad as you think. Just don't be in a hurry to get everything accomplished at once.
GrimLordKi Jul 24, 2019 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by subway:
Tbh I dont get ur problem.
I started playing bdo one week ago and never experienced any progression problems.
And nah, im not whaling, just bought the game + 2 pets. Still reached softcap without any problem

"I started playing bdo one week ago....Still reached softcap without any problem" Somethings ♥♥♥♥♥!
123 Jul 24, 2019 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Decoy:
I am a new player and this is the kind of garbage that makes me quit (aka mismanaged games).

Don't get me wrong...
I don't mind grinding for long hours
I don't mind some essential cash shop items (pets)
I don't mind RNG and casino-like BS
I don't mind grinding and spamming the same quest/objective
I don't hard/challenging content

but WHEN YOU 'BLOCK' ME FROM PROGRESS NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM

WHAT THE #### IS THIS?

https://imgur.com/a/sKEjZmB

Developers, I know you are reading this. I would love an explanation.
Every example you show in your pic is something you can get by long hours and RNG. (*see below about VP's and Pets).

I agree with you that progress is extremely slow in BDO - especially if you have never bought any "time saver" from the Pearl Shop.

Slow progress does not equal "blocked".

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Value Packs (VP):
VP's are a time saver. There are 1 Day VP's found in the Loyalty Shop. It takes a long time earn VP's in-game. I prefer to get mine from the marketplace. Get VP's even faster by cracking open your wallet in the Pearl Shop.

Pets:
Again - a time saver. We earn those very slowly. There are no Loyalty Shop options for pets. Get em off the marketplace or crack open your wallet to get them sooner.
Necron 99 Jul 24, 2019 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:
What seems to be the problem? High demand and not enough supply on certain items..You don't need to buy any of them to enjoy the game

you know you can just grind them right? Or if you complain about "high" prices then know what once you level up it will be nothing to you, you will make milions per hour and get few extra daily from the game just for logging in


Originally posted by Decoy:
So you're saying that not having enough materials in the WHOLE economy is "ok"?
It's ok if there are over 2k pre-orders with MAX price? ROFL...
It might not be you personally but I think the game has taught you to think like that

Thanks, think I got what I came for.

The game taught him to think that way? He spoke facts. Supply and Demand are facts.

Grind for em. This isn't reality - the BDO world doesn't run empty on Urugons, Sharps and Hards.:steamfacepalm:

It's ok if you don't like the grind, bro. This might not be a fun game for you -- no need to mock others for stating facts that you don't like.
Vault Hunter 101 Jul 24, 2019 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Necron 99:
Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:
What seems to be the problem? High demand and not enough supply on certain items..You don't need to buy any of them to enjoy the game

you know you can just grind them right? Or if you complain about "high" prices then know what once you level up it will be nothing to you, you will make milions per hour and get few extra daily from the game just for logging in


Originally posted by Decoy:
So you're saying that not having enough materials in the WHOLE economy is "ok"?
It's ok if there are over 2k pre-orders with MAX price? ROFL...
It might not be you personally but I think the game has taught you to think like that

Thanks, think I got what I came for.

The game taught him to think that way? He spoke facts. Supply and Demand are facts.

Grind for em. This isn't reality - the BDO world doesn't run empty on Urugons, Sharps and Hards.:steamfacepalm:

It's ok if you don't like the grind, bro. This might not be a fun game for you -- no need to mock others for stating facts that you don't like.

OP said he can grind in his initial post

"I don't mind grinding for long hours"
"I don't mind grinding and spamming the same quest/objective "
"I don't mind RNG and casino-like BS"

That's why I told him he can grind. Supply is low for that item because of the low max price the market set in, if I could get let's say 5mln per hard black crystal shard I would sell my shards no problem, but since the market caps it at 1.6mln it is not worth it, I rather have a shard rather than 1.6mln extra

If you must blame someone blame BDO team for capping market prices rather than allowing people to set their price to whatever they want (why I can't sell potatoes for 10mln each :C)

But the game certainly don't have any supply problems, if OP really needs those or other shards he can grind for them and it is not some super hard WoW grind with 0.001% drop rate for completing a dungeon.
Lynton Jul 24, 2019 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by 123:
Originally posted by Decoy:
I am a new player and this is the kind of garbage that makes me quit (aka mismanaged games).

Don't get me wrong...
I don't mind grinding for long hours
I don't mind some essential cash shop items (pets)
I don't mind RNG and casino-like BS
I don't mind grinding and spamming the same quest/objective
I don't hard/challenging content

but WHEN YOU 'BLOCK' ME FROM PROGRESS NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM

WHAT THE #### IS THIS?

https://imgur.com/a/sKEjZmB

Developers, I know you are reading this. I would love an explanation.
Every example you show in your pic is something you can get by long hours and RNG. (*see below about VP's and Pets).

I agree with you that progress is extremely slow in BDO - especially if you have never bought any "time saver" from the Pearl Shop.

Slow progress does not equal "blocked".

===============================
Value Packs (VP):
VP's are a time saver. There are 1 Day VP's found in the Loyalty Shop. It takes a long time earn VP's in-game. I prefer to get mine from the marketplace. Get VP's even faster by cracking open your wallet in the Pearl Shop.

Pets:
Again - a time saver. We earn those very slowly. There are no Loyalty Shop options for pets. Get em off the marketplace or crack open your wallet to get them sooner.

If supply/demand is so misconstrued as its displayed in the image, then they need to fix that. Its broken. There is no denying you cant get those in quests. But that is not the point of this post, Op is not obtaining these through quests or RnG. This is about a separate feature that BDO offers that does not live up to expectation. RnG is fine- quests are fine. Separate things - so your rationalization to having a pre order of VP sit for 3 months is that "You can grind it or get it in quests"? Its nice that they offer that-sure. But that doesnt fix the underlined issue with the supply/demand of this marketplace.


Als, OP strictly mentioned the supply/demand of said items and the overall functionality/operational point of the MP. What is the point of the marketplace if you have to wait 3 months to get a VP? Maybe they should fend off the current demand and strategize with cost implementations that better suits the publics needs because clearly they are doing something wrong. The fact is that the marketplace is not operating to the satisfaction of the customer base and Bottom Line: they are losing people because of stuff like this.

Not sure about you guys, but pretty sure most of us dont have the time to grind out 16 extra bank slots in EVERY CITY, or 16 invent slots,(Not to mention all the other bonuses) these things are pretty much required to grind out and make $$ at higher levels- and im talking like end game. Sure, your first 1k hours will have plentiful space. But once you actually start grinding for real in regards to LS, and have surpassed roughly 1k hours of gameplay, have a worker army, Gather,process,alchemy, Fish, and own a house? its not very practical to NOT have the VP. Or you can just waste your CP on storage in houses which is also counter-intuitive. Ive have my VP on pre-order for 2 months straight going on 3 now.

Or hey, lets just pay $30 per month for the VP cause that makes sense? And you know how they make sure of that? They bracket the pearls at 1000,2000,3000 and so on and so forth. a VP is 1500. Therefore you are forced to buy the $20. Then exchange(if ur no in the USA) plus taxes your looking at 25-30+. Im in Canada and pay $28.

So no. Im not going to pay $28 to get extra invent slots so that I can grind.

Anyone who mentions quests or other ways to obtain this didnt quite understand OP'S point of the post.


Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:
Originally posted by Necron 99:




The game taught him to think that way? He spoke facts. Supply and Demand are facts.

Grind for em. This isn't reality - the BDO world doesn't run empty on Urugons, Sharps and Hards.:steamfacepalm:

It's ok if you don't like the grind, bro. This might not be a fun game for you -- no need to mock others for stating facts that you don't like.

OP said he can grind in his initial post

"I don't mind grinding for long hours"
"I don't mind grinding and spamming the same quest/objective "
"I don't mind RNG and casino-like BS"

That's why I told him he can grind. Supply is low for that item because of the low max price the market set in, if I could get let's say 5mln per hard black crystal shard I would sell my shards no problem, but since the market caps it at 1.6mln it is not worth it, I rather have a shard rather than 1.6mln extra

If you must blame someone blame BDO team for capping market prices rather than allowing people to set their price to whatever they want (why I can't sell potatoes for 10mln each :C)

But the game certainly don't have any supply problems, if OP really needs those or other shards he can grind for them and it is not some super hard WoW grind with 0.001% drop rate for completing a dungeon.

Further, Probably not a good idea comparing bdo to things like WOW - your entering a whole new playing field.This has absolutely nothing to do with the BDO marketplace and an entire mmorpg cannot be morphed into a comparison to a feature that another mmorpg offers.

Originally posted by GrimLordKi:
Originally posted by subway:
Tbh I dont get ur problem.
I started playing bdo one week ago and never experienced any progression problems.
And nah, im not whaling, just bought the game + 2 pets. Still reached softcap without any problem

"I started playing bdo one week ago....Still reached softcap without any problem" Somethings ♥♥♥♥♥!

Lastly, sorry, but if youve been playing for 1 week then you have absolutely no say in this matter because you have not much of an idea what its actually like. In a year when you can provide valuable insight and have knowledge to share instead of basing your entire experience off of just one week. Know what i mean?
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Date Posted: Jul 23, 2019 @ 4:39pm
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