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Is there any purpose to playing Shai?
I don't much care if the Shai creeps people out or not; children (or, in this case, child-like races) exist, they can go on adventures, and they're not going away.

However, I am very concerned about being useless in a PvP-oriented game. Is the Shai's awakening going to introduce some PvP utility, or should I just pick another class?
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Daggoth Sep 6, 2019 @ 2:11am 
They're set up as a support class. Their awakening talent provides buffs and debuffs. I don't PVP much so not sure how viable they are, but they are trying to give them a place in group content.

They're also good lifeskill characters with bonuses to gathering and alchemy exp gain and a high default carry weight.
And they are pretty decent PVE at the moment as their Florang dumps absurd amounts of hits on everything and their high health pool gives them a lot of buffer. Although their limited skill set means they're not as efficient at end-game grinding.
Mr Deap Sep 6, 2019 @ 5:30am 
Well if ya want to gear up fast, Shai is the way to go.

Gathering play a big part of getting high FS & Pen gears.
vkobe Sep 6, 2019 @ 2:56pm 
yes dressing your cute shai is the true end game ^_^
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:00pm 
They are garbage, you are better off playing wizard/witch. You get big consistent heals like shai and you get big pvp/pve damage without the reduction. Don't waste your time and money on it, shai was only worth the 600mil event.

You can't defend your grind spot

You have a tiny spammable set of skills that will eventually get boring

You are so small you can drown in a puddle

And the only thing you will be half decent at is group pvp, and you will just get beat down before anyone else, you might as well go full dp build. Go like 130-150ap and then cap out your dp/evasion because it doesn't matter how much ap you get that 95% dmg reduction is a horrible idea along with the lazy half ass skills given to the shai by the devs.

The only legitimate good thing about shai is being able to carry more and that's pretty much it. Not even the lifeskilling is worth it when you already have dedicated alts for lifeskilling.

Don't waste your time on shai, they aren't even that great in pve, they are slow and the awakening feels inconsistent and so do the dashes. You can play other classes that will eventually excel and outperform shai and can actually defend its grind spot.

You are mostly solo in the game, and the game encourages single play for grinding. And shai needs a group to really shine. You will be playing a group orientated class solo 90% of the time. It makes no sense, and you get a huge 95% reduction in dmg. The only decent thing you can do is carry more and burn through peoples (and your own) gear durability. In fact some players enjoy killing shai for fun, it's easy prey.

Trust me don't waste your time on shai unless the devs improve the class dramatically because it's low tier in terms of pve and pvp. You can outgrind a shai on lahn or many of the other classes. And switching between awakening and florang feels way to slow to be a thing. It's such a lazy sloppy transition. You are less gear dependent sure, but in the long run you are very limited and are worthless. Shai is great for making memes though because they are terrible, reddit and the official forum has plenty of that.


But if you really like shai go ahead, waste your time, i got my shai up to lv 60 for the +200 weight, then i abandoned ship, and won't ever touch that thing again. Kind of feel like it's wasted time, but hey it will be good at holding a bunch of junk for me like an extra large trashbag.
Last edited by Puppet Pal Clem; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:07pm
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:09pm 
Please do pick another class, and don't look back, shai is experimental and many feel like she was created just to milk pearls out of people. Don't believe me? Google how people feel about shai. Many upon many of people agree that shai is trash, a korean player made a video on why shai is trash and why not many people play her on reddit. You dont have to be korean to see how flawed she is, but just saying, koreans get stuff first and are very serious in their games.

You'll either get bored of her, tired of people killing you until you leave or tired of switching servers because you can't defend yourself (unless you got a near full pen dp build with like over 800 evasion), but even then someone with high ap will just melt your face off making dp build alright unless you have billions upon billions to spend on capping that because if not it's not worth raising your ap above 150 honestly. There is no point.... You wanna support? pick witch or wizard and guess what people will want you more than a shai because you also don't have a 95% dmg reduction and you can heal people just as good!

Shai is supposed to be a group class but it really can't and the game mostly consist of solo play unless you are in a dedicated guild which wants to use a shai or something, but good luck man, they would probably want a witch/wizard over a shai for anything group orientated.

Oh and enjoy wasting tons of money on her talent weapon which you wont be able to sell if you get bored of her, a good money sink for in game money and real life money, nothing good will come in return and she has a solid limit and is very slow even in pve. I'm sorry don't do it, i know she is cute, but it ain't worth it. You want a chibi character that is actually useful? Go tamer. You can actually do stuff and defend yourself from being attacked during your pve grind.

If i see a shai in my grinding spot, i just throw a shai into my grinding rotation. They can't do anything but heal themselves and run around maybe hit the drum a few times (because thats all they can do), and i hope you enjoy stressing out about the slow transition in and out of awakening before you even cast your first ability in your awakening it will take you literally 4-5 seconds, which is very slow and a massive downturn, especially if you get any lag or random ping spike, those seconds are a huge downfall. You are literally a defenseless support class who will mostly be solo.

Knowing how the devs ignore community feedback heavily, it's just not worth taking the chance even if they make shai decent in the future, we don't know, the devs have proven time and time again to just flat out ignore and continue doing their own thing. Once in a blue moon they do something decent i guess like that 600mil payout event for shai, but now that it's over it aint worth playing her.
Last edited by Puppet Pal Clem; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:19pm
Shai clears a lot of PvE faster than any other class. Shai are imba.
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Veles, Keeper of the Underworld:
Shai clears a lot of PvE faster than any other class. Shai are imba.

No she doesn't that is a flat out huge lie. She is good at fighting in pve but she is sure as not faster than lahn, mystic, striker, witch/wizard, etc. She has nice sustain and doesn't need pots, but guess what other classes can heal themselves too and come with some life recovery, it just cost a little bit of money.

I would rather have a high AP player in the group than a high DP shai. You can melt through a shai if you grab and burst her down even with high dp (again unless you have full pen gear with dp meme accessories and stuff).

Shai is mostly brainless and kind of unresponsive. You literally only hit 2 buttons over and over again, and there isn't any dungeons or the need to group up constantly like WoW(and wow classic which i still play), final fantasy 11 (and reborn), elder scrolls, heck even blade and soul has/had more group orientated things to do. Unless the devs add in dungeon, shai is very specific and unneeded. Unless you really like playing as a cute meme thing that is mostly useless outside of group pvx.
Last edited by Puppet Pal Clem; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:26pm
Originally posted by Pipe:
Originally posted by Veles, Keeper of the Underworld:
Shai clears a lot of PvE faster than any other class. Shai are imba.

No she doesn't that is a flat out huge lie.

Anybody paying attention knows it's truth:

https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/shai-best-pve-confirmed.449256/
Last edited by Nemo, Forevermore; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:23pm
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Veles, Keeper of the Underworld:
Originally posted by Pipe:

No she doesn't that is a flat out huge lie.

Anybody paying attention knows it's truth:

https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/shai-best-pve-confirmed.449256/

I don't have to post 1 link, i offer you the entire google search engine to confirm what i'm saying, hey maybe even youtube some of the videos and read the comments, she isn't that great, she really isn't and no matter how many times you say so, i will say she is not. She is literally a meme character with a lazy awakening and animations. Post a video of yourself switching between your florang and awakening to cast your first ability. See how long and inconsistent and vulnerable you are? All you can really do is forest echo and a few other crap, and thats so boring and repetitive! Why would you enjoy that? Even the attack music sounds boring af!

But hey whatever helps you sleep at night. I won't stop you from playing her, just warning other players to be weary and not fall into the trap. I can ensure you the vast vast vast vast majority of shai players will drop her and not main her.

If you don't want to take the game serious in anyway and don't care about getting destroyed during your pve grind from being unable to defend yourself or just being outgrinded by the likes of lahn (trust me on this one lahn is 100x faster at grinding in pve than shai, but requires a bit better gear, but hey the gear actually makes a difference in the end unlike shai, where ap and dp don't really matter, dp is a bit better than ap on shai, no point in going ap, just get ap dmg boost in skills, and use pots, stay at 130-150ap and max dp and hope that during your pve grind a player that isn't trash or new doesn't decide to kill you until you switch areas/servers). I mean even if you do have high dp, all if takes is someone with a brain and decent ap to murder your shai. I mean shais are annoying for karma bombing and burning through your gear, but thats pretty much it. You CAN'T defend any of your "PVE" content as soon as you reach 50. Again unless you are fighting new players or people who have trash gear.

Good news is that shai is great on an empty server with mostly friendly players. And even then the game rewards you better for solo grinding, so why the hell would people want to waste their time holding a shais hand if they get KOSed or griefed out of an area/server.
Last edited by Puppet Pal Clem; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:39pm
Originally posted by Pipe:
Originally posted by Veles, Keeper of the Underworld:

Anybody paying attention knows it's truth:

https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/shai-best-pve-confirmed.449256/

I don't have to post 1 link, i offer you the entire google search engine to confirm what i'm saying, hey maybe even youtube some of the videos and read the comments, she isn't that great, she really isn't and no matter how many times you say so, i will say she is not. She is literally a meme character with a lazy awakening and animations.

But hey whatever helps you sleep at night. I won't stop you from playing her, just warning other players to be weary and not fall into the trap. I can ensure you the vast vast vast vast majority of shai players will drop her and not main her.

If you don't want to take the game serious in anyway and don't care about getting destroyed during your pve grind from being unable to defend yourself or just being outgrinded by the likes of lahn (trust me on this one lahn is 100x faster at grinding in pve than shai, but requires a bit better gear, but hey the gear actually makes a difference in the end unlike shai, where ap and dp don't really matter, dp is a bit better than ap on shai, no point in going ap, just get ap dmg boost in skills, and use pots, stay at 130-150ap and max dp and hope that during your pve grind a player that isn't trash or new doesn't decide to kill you until you switch areas/servers). I mean even if you do have high dp, all if takes is someone with a brain and decent ap to murder your shai. I mean shais are annoying for karma bombing and burning through your gear, but thats pretty much it. You CAN'T defend any of your "PVE" content as soon as you reach 50. Again unless you are fighting new players or people who have trash gear.

Good news is that shai is great on an empty server with mostly friendly players. And even then the game rewards you better for solo grinding, so why the hell would people want to waste their time holding a shais hand if they get KOSed or griefed out of an area/server.

Defend your grind spot? What a dumb answer.

Just move to one of the numerous other channels like anyone who isn't a Lahn does.
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Veles, Keeper of the Underworld:
Originally posted by Pipe:

I don't have to post 1 link, i offer you the entire google search engine to confirm what i'm saying, hey maybe even youtube some of the videos and read the comments, she isn't that great, she really isn't and no matter how many times you say so, i will say she is not. She is literally a meme character with a lazy awakening and animations.

But hey whatever helps you sleep at night. I won't stop you from playing her, just warning other players to be weary and not fall into the trap. I can ensure you the vast vast vast vast majority of shai players will drop her and not main her.

If you don't want to take the game serious in anyway and don't care about getting destroyed during your pve grind from being unable to defend yourself or just being outgrinded by the likes of lahn (trust me on this one lahn is 100x faster at grinding in pve than shai, but requires a bit better gear, but hey the gear actually makes a difference in the end unlike shai, where ap and dp don't really matter, dp is a bit better than ap on shai, no point in going ap, just get ap dmg boost in skills, and use pots, stay at 130-150ap and max dp and hope that during your pve grind a player that isn't trash or new doesn't decide to kill you until you switch areas/servers). I mean even if you do have high dp, all if takes is someone with a brain and decent ap to murder your shai. I mean shais are annoying for karma bombing and burning through your gear, but thats pretty much it. You CAN'T defend any of your "PVE" content as soon as you reach 50. Again unless you are fighting new players or people who have trash gear.

Good news is that shai is great on an empty server with mostly friendly players. And even then the game rewards you better for solo grinding, so why the hell would people want to waste their time holding a shais hand if they get KOSed or griefed out of an area/server.

Defend your grind spot? What a dumb answer.

Just move to one of the numerous other channels like anyone who isn't a Lahn does.

That's what i said like 5 times before you even made a comment here. Durrr. You will either be forced to change spots or servers each time. Enjoy wasting your pots and xp boosts during busy play time though. :)
Last edited by Puppet Pal Clem; Sep 6, 2019 @ 3:40pm
Sir Fed Dump Sep 8, 2019 @ 8:16am 
Sad, but true. Shai just feels useless most of the time in combat. If you like Gathering & Alchemy, Shai is good. Otherwise, not so good.
Frumpylumps Sep 8, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
Don't listen to these jaded bittervet idiots. Shai is the class with the best support skills in the game.

Last edited by Frumpylumps; Sep 8, 2019 @ 1:44pm
Puppet Pal Clem Sep 8, 2019 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Frumpylumps:
Don't listen to these jaded bittervet idiots. Shai is the class with the best support skills in the game.

Calls people idiot, doesn't provide any refutes or counterarguments. Alright, buddy whatever you say.
Raymond Sep 8, 2019 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by Frumpylumps:
Don't listen to these jaded bittervet idiots. Shai is the class with the best support skills in the game.
A supporter in a gear based pvp game with virtually no actual working coop content that require a rearline support.
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