Shakatu's Seals

[Y_u_no_come]

What did you do with them? At the moment I'm writing this I have collected enough for some items, however I looked up all of them and the one I need the most is the duo ogre ring. There are 2 items though that I do question since they're both like wah...

1) Tungrad Necklace: 10 AP, 20% spirit. This one caught my interest because it isn't in the auction house and the 20% seems pretty good especially if you get the tungrad earrings as well for a total of 40% extra. My guess is this is endgame stuff, right? Should I wait to farm this, and is it easier to farm than ogre ring?

2) 150 seals for "7-day" awakening weapon exchange coupon. Does this mean you get an awakening weapon just for 7 days? That doesn't seem to great especially if all the other items seem a bit more valueable. Heck, even the dandelion 70 seals seems better than that. Can anyone shine light on this one?

[angelo]

tungrad necklace is unfarmable, they drop from hystria mobs but even a lvl 60 dk with 500gs will have troubles killing those mobs
with the exchange coupon you can trade awakening weapons for another classes without losing the enhancement level, so for example if you have a PEN Witch Dande you can change it for a PEN Sorc Dande.
have in mind that you can only get 10 seals per month and it takes 100 for the DUO ogre, that means 5 months for an item you can get in a week if you have enough silver and time to farm ogres
muskans and dim tree armor are way harder to get and i feel that they are more worth it than any other item on that list, but thats my opinion

[Y_u_no_come]

Messaggio originale di angelo:

tungrad necklace is unfarmable, they drop from hystria mobs but even a lvl 60 dk with 500gs will have troubles killing those mobs
with the exchange coupon you can trade awakening weapons for another classes without losing the enhancement level, so for example if you have a PEN Witch Dande you can change it for a PEN Sorc Dande.
have in mind that you can only get 10 seals per month and it takes 100 for the DUO ogre, that means 5 months for an item you can get in a week if you have enough silver and time to farm ogres
muskans and dim tree armor are way harder to get and i feel that they are more worth it than any other item on that list, but thats my opinion

Have you tried night vendor? I've passed up nouver and muskans because I don't have the 200mil, also I'm pretty bad at upgrading items normally, so if anything I would have to buy my gear. I believe the dim tree is the rarest of rarities but you don't lose it from upgrading one like losing 2+ ogre rings, no?

So...according to what you're saying tungrad necklace is the rarest item in the entire game at the moment, right?

[DCid]

Id go with the Tungrad. Unless you plan on switching your Main... The exhange coupon is worthless.

[Y_u_no_come]

Messaggio originale di DCid:

Id go with the Tungrad. Unless you plan on switching your Main... The exhange coupon is worthless.

I'll have to wait 4 months from now to find out. Maybe later it'll be in the auction house. Korean servers also have different gear than us. Also time goes by we might get better stuff. Take asula crimson eye gear. The pieces are basically better 56 gears for those that don't have duo+ accessories yet. I wouldn't doubt they'll make newer gear that can't be auctioned like the roaring chest piece completely phasing out the boss gear. Wouldn't that be something? 10 months down the line we'll have quested gear, siege gear, and event gear that's better than boss gear (WoW status right there). One being full DP to be solid, another to be 200% spirit so we can finally use that 200% spirit ability, and another with cap stats w/1 crystal slot so you don't have to get +1speed etc for crystal slots. Who knows but the devs. I just hope it's not 2-3 years from now to find out what 200% spirit does.

[angelo]

im pretty sure that the one you get from the shakatus is a earring not a tungrad necklace, so theres no point in getting that instead of the ogre, tungrads earring are cheaper than ogres.
and yeah, the necklace is the rarest item in the game, not even a single one has been sold in NA and i think only 2 of them has been sold in kr.
ive been trying to get muskans for weeks to complete my set, wasting around 400 energy per day in NV and bidding in everysingle one that i see in the market with no luck, so for me it feels like that is worth it way more than the ogre or any other thing, plus you only need 50 and not 100 seals, but if you arent interested on boss gear might as well go for the ogre to save yourselft some time farming ogres and camping the market

[Y_u_no_come]

Messaggio originale di angelo:

im pretty sure that the one you get from the shakatus is a earring not a tungrad necklace, so theres no point in getting that instead of the ogre, tungrads earring are cheaper than ogres.
and yeah, the necklace is the rarest item in the game, not even a single one has been sold in NA and i think only 2 of them has been sold in kr.
ive been trying to get muskans for weeks to complete my set, wasting around 400 energy per day in NV and bidding in everysingle one that i see in the market with no luck, so for me it feels like that is worth it way more than the ogre or any other thing, plus you only need 50 and not 100 seals, but if you arent interested on boss gear might as well go for the ogre to save yourselft some time farming ogres and camping the market

Makes alts. Imagine 400 energy...per character. You have 6 characters free (1 extra from striker promotion), and more for every 5k loyalties. Leave lvl 5-15 alt by night vendor. I believe you can get 100 energy every 3 days if you don't log into them. Out of curiosity, how much did it sell for in the KR?

[axelmonster]

Get the DUO ogre ring, it's the hardest item on the list to make, and one of the best silver/seal ratios.

[Jack Randall]

Messaggio originale di Y_u_no_come:

What did you do with them? At the moment I'm writing this I have collected enough for some items, however I looked up all of them and the one I need the most is the duo ogre ring. There are 2 items though that I do question since they're both like wah...

1) Tungrad Necklace: 10 AP, 20% spirit. This one caught my interest because it isn't in the auction house and the 20% seems pretty good especially if you get the tungrad earrings as well for a total of 40% extra. My guess is this is endgame stuff, right? Should I wait to farm this, and is it easier to farm than ogre ring?

2) 150 seals for "7-day" awakening weapon exchange coupon. Does this mean you get an awakening weapon just for 7 days? That doesn't seem to great especially if all the other items seem a bit more valueable. Heck, even the dandelion 70 seals seems better than that. Can anyone shine light on this one?

Keep for the Ogre DUO ,is not so easy to make as some people claim .Also keep rolling the NV ,i skiped Muskans rating from 300+ mil to 117 mil and finaly got them for 94 which is basicly the normal market price.To farm ogres you need 3 nodes lv 9 and S grade knowledge on them, and it will take days for a single ring since they spawn between 12 and 15 minutes after they died,and there are only 10 spawns ,and average drop rate is 1 OR in 1000.In 24 h they spawn only 960 times or something like that .To make mine i spend 1-2 months grinding them 8 hours a day .Not recomending it if you don't have the patience to do it.Also play in party and ask people to seed you with the DS energy.You know there was this mechanic back in Line Age that is similar to this seeding from other players here.2 people with 100% DS rage will give you 50% each .

[Jack Randall]

Messaggio originale di angelo:

im pretty sure that the one you get from the shakatus is a earring not a tungrad necklace, so theres no point in getting that instead of the ogre, tungrads earring are cheaper than ogres.
and yeah, the necklace is the rarest item in the game, not even a single one has been sold in NA and i think only 2 of them has been sold in kr.
ive been trying to get muskans for weeks to complete my set, wasting around 400 energy per day in NV and bidding in everysingle one that i see in the market with no luck, so for me it feels like that is worth it way more than the ogre or any other thing, plus you only need 50 and not 100 seals, but if you arent interested on boss gear might as well go for the ogre to save yourselft some time farming ogres and camping the market

You are falling back NA ,we sold already 8 Tungrads Necklaces on the EU servers

[Y_u_no_come]

Messaggio originale di Jack Randall:

Messaggio originale di Y_u_no_come:

What did you do with them? At the moment I'm writing this I have collected enough for some items, however I looked up all of them and the one I need the most is the duo ogre ring. There are 2 items though that I do question since they're both like wah...

1) Tungrad Necklace: 10 AP, 20% spirit. This one caught my interest because it isn't in the auction house and the 20% seems pretty good especially if you get the tungrad earrings as well for a total of 40% extra. My guess is this is endgame stuff, right? Should I wait to farm this, and is it easier to farm than ogre ring?

2) 150 seals for "7-day" awakening weapon exchange coupon. Does this mean you get an awakening weapon just for 7 days? That doesn't seem to great especially if all the other items seem a bit more valueable. Heck, even the dandelion 70 seals seems better than that. Can anyone shine light on this one?

Keep for the Ogre DUO ,is not so easy to make as some people claim .Also keep rolling the NV ,i skiped Muskans rating from 300+ mil to 117 mil and finaly got them for 94 which is basicly the normal market price.To farm ogres you need 3 nodes lv 9 and S grade knowledge on them, and it will take days for a single ring since they spawn between 12 and 15 minutes after they died,and there are only 10 spawns ,and average drop rate is 1 OR in 1000.In 24 h they spawn only 960 times or something like that .To make mine i spend 1-2 months grinding them 8 hours a day .Not recomending it if you don't have the patience to do it.Also play in party and ask people to seed you with the DS energy.You know there was this mechanic back in Line Age that is similar to this seeding from other players here.2 people with 100% DS rage will give you 50% each .

100 seals...sigh. Idk if I'll have the patience. 7 months to go, you know unless they increase the seals from 10 a month to 15+.

[Spoons]

I'll personally be going for the duo ogre ring myself as i don't mind waiting for my boss gear/doing the NV. I'm pretty lucky-(ish) with the NV as i managed to roll my Muskans for 80 mil. (And i was actually debating with myself if i should buy them or not... ) I bought them and now they're at +14 and i have enough FS built up on different alts to be able to get them to TRI once payday comes so i can buy artisan memory. (I feel like it's a huge waste in my opinion if i don't use artisan memory with my frags.)

Still need a lot of boss gear though (armour, helmet and off-hand), but yeah. 100% i'm going for the duo ogre ring since i'll be using tri rce as bis in the future so no point in me getting the tungrad. (That's just my opinion though.)

[Jack Randall]

Messaggio originale di Y_u_no_come:

Messaggio originale di Jack Randall:

Keep for the Ogre DUO ,is not so easy to make as some people claim .Also keep rolling the NV ,i skiped Muskans rating from 300+ mil to 117 mil and finaly got them for 94 which is basicly the normal market price.To farm ogres you need 3 nodes lv 9 and S grade knowledge on them, and it will take days for a single ring since they spawn between 12 and 15 minutes after they died,and there are only 10 spawns ,and average drop rate is 1 OR in 1000.In 24 h they spawn only 960 times or something like that .To make mine i spend 1-2 months grinding them 8 hours a day .Not recomending it if you don't have the patience to do it.Also play in party and ask people to seed you with the DS energy.You know there was this mechanic back in Line Age that is similar to this seeding from other players here.2 people with 100% DS rage will give you 50% each .

100 seals...sigh. Idk if I'll have the patience. 7 months to go, you know unless they increase the seals from 10 a month to 15+.

They said they will add them at some quests and events so i gues they will boost the drop.This month you get 15 from the attendance so they are increasing them.

[Jack Randall]

Messaggio originale di SepticSpoon:

I'll personally be going for the duo ogre ring myself as i don't mind waiting for my boss gear/doing the NV. I'm pretty lucky-(ish) with the NV as i managed to roll my Muskans for 80 mil. (And i was actually debating with myself if i should buy them or not... ) I bought them and now they're at +14 and i have enough FS built up on different alts to be able to get them to TRI once payday comes so i can buy artisan memory. (I feel like it's a huge waste in my opinion if i don't use artisan memory with my frags.)

Still need a lot of boss gear though (armour, helmet and off-hand), but yeah. 100% i'm going for the duo ogre ring since i'll be using tri rce as bis in the future so no point in me getting the tungrad. (That's just my opinion though.)

That is debatable,you pay for Art Mem ,RL money ,yes they decrease the mem frag you need,but in the same time grinding either for money or the pila fe scroll parts is free(if we don't count the electric bill ).And on average for 20 scrolls you make enough fragments to repair to 100% durability atleast on one boss item.So i personaly prefere to make cash and scrolls and not waste rl money on art mem,while using them only on liverto and awekening blue gear.And those i can grab from loyalties .On the other hand i have been playing since release so there isn't much i need to invest my loyalties into,since 100 slots are more then enough for my needs ,having more just lets me carry more not realy needed crap in me,which i barely use.But then again that is just me.

[Echo2Omega]

Dim Tree is probably the most difficult piece of gear to get currently.

[Y_u_no_come]

Messaggio originale di Jack Randall:

Messaggio originale di SepticSpoon:

I'll personally be going for the duo ogre ring myself as i don't mind waiting for my boss gear/doing the NV. I'm pretty lucky-(ish) with the NV as i managed to roll my Muskans for 80 mil. (And i was actually debating with myself if i should buy them or not... ) I bought them and now they're at +14 and i have enough FS built up on different alts to be able to get them to TRI once payday comes so i can buy artisan memory. (I feel like it's a huge waste in my opinion if i don't use artisan memory with my frags.)

Still need a lot of boss gear though (armour, helmet and off-hand), but yeah. 100% i'm going for the duo ogre ring since i'll be using tri rce as bis in the future so no point in me getting the tungrad. (That's just my opinion though.)

That is debatable,you pay for Art Mem ,RL money ,yes they decrease the mem frag you need,but in the same time grinding either for money or the pila fe scroll parts is free(if we don't count the electric bill :rbiggrin:).And on average for 20 scrolls you make enough fragments to repair to 100% durability atleast on one boss item.So i personaly prefere to make cash and scrolls and not waste rl money on art mem,while using them only on liverto and awekening blue gear.And those i can grab from loyalties .On the other hand i have been playing since release so there isn't much i need to invest my loyalties into,since 100 slots are more then enough for my needs ,having more just lets me carry more not realy needed crap in me,which i barely use.But then again that is just me.:cgrazz:

I've come to the realization that the duo ogre ring is the best value of all of them, however I don't think I can wait that long. First off, all items can be obtained through night vendor, which is a god's blessing it even exists. The only problem is, you can get the dim tree and ogre ring for the same price but the duo ogre ring is just harder to create.

But then comes my dilemma, time. Logically I'd rather get the muskan's shoes. I can get away with 2 grunil or heve, roaring chest piece and muskan's shoes until I get my other pieces but if it's the dim tree, it doesn't have the same effect as with 3 heve or 3 grunil, which I believe the most effective practice would be agerian hands w/dim tree to have the +1 attack speed while losing a crystal slot. I know the arguement about stamina will come up, so I would like to hear your combinations what would work better dim tree with which pieces (other than boss gear) vs. muskan's and which pieces.