How does it compare to WoW?

[WorkingLikeADog]

I hear things. Some positive. Some negateive.

No subscription!

Pay to win!

No one really talks about the lag, or the graphics, or the end game. Can't seem to make it past the super critical isues. Example: Everyone said Watch Dogs was trash. I liked it. Sure UbiSoft is straight up evil for DRM and server lockdown, you can't own what you bought, but the world was really fun to play in.

[Y_u_no_come]

No sub, p2w is subjective, CPU heavy so overclocking may freeze your game...

If you do plenty of research you'll know about the game. Those that give the game a thumbs down have thousands of hours in the game...and still play the game.

The game is solo heavy even in higher levels. Guild is just there but there isn't a whole guild against another type of ordeal.

Look at it this way: you're willing to spend $180 on WoW a year but you won't spend $10 on a game just to try it out for a few months. Priorities, bruh. Wow is a cash cow. Blizzard made a p2w card game.

Btw, there's no trading in BDO. This is huge. That means there's no gold sellers. Auction houses are also regulated so priced don't rise dramtically or fall dramatically. Someone can't go below the minimum or higher than the max.

[Zaphael]

Grindy after lvl50, but it can be fun and decent. Although wish the graphics were more customizable.

[DarkMatter]

What the hell is WoW? Is it some kind of new lotion? I would not pay $180 a year, even for yummy skin lotion.

(Unless of course it comes in Sweedish Bitters Flavour, with a hint of Rose Hip Oil and Dingleberry.)

But to answer your question, you can dress like a dork, that's got to be worth $10.

Watch Dogs is trash but I still liked it.

Cheaper than Watch Dogs 2, and that sure is trash.

[Rich]

Very different game and shouldn't be compared. One of the few MMOs that I've played that doesn't attempt to be a Wow-killer (which is good).

Surely I've only just started playing so it's hard for me to say, but I have played WoW since 05 and done pretty much everything there is to do there.

I'll give you a few pros and cons.

+ Better graphics - beats wow by miles.
+ Better combat gameplay (this is subjective but I for one prefer this hack-n-slash over the clasic tab-target spam
+ Much better cities. Cities in BDO really feel like actual cities, unlike WoW where, except for IF and SW, there aren't any cities.
+ Player housing.
+ Equippment dying.



- P2W, unargueably.
- No way near as much content as wow (nothing strange about that though since wow is 10 years older and have had multiple expansions
- Feels limited in what you can do without paying. Guess this falls under p2w, but even the positive things I mentioned, like player housing furniture, gear dye, etc, is slow af to obtain
- Gear doesnt change the appeareance of your character. You are forced to purchase skins from the store at 35€ - 100€ (unless you're >really< lucky and can get a set from AH for ingame cash) and there aren't many sets to chose from so it won't really be unique.
- Very limited inventory space and carryweight limit.
- Feels very asian.





Overall, they really shouldnt' compare. For 10€ it's worth buying and playing. I'm still so early in (only lvl 50) so I can't say about the endgame, but if it will force me to pay hundreds of euros per month, obv I won't be doing that.

[WorkingLikeADog]

Yeah, I saw it was $10 now. Maybe soon, idk.

[MrMuffinz]

This game would be like a fully immersive 3D Runescape if I could describe it any way.
Super grindy to increase skills, make money, and do not so interesting quests.
No huge over-arching story, or at least no focus on it.
It's fairly CPU heavy so you might have trouble running it.
Graphics are fine; everyone oogles over it, but the art-style doesn't feel so good to me.
I didn't get far enough for end-game, so can't say.

WoW is of course much more of a themepark, where you grind a bit to get to the fun rides.
This is just grind to get a good hotdog, then you have the hotdog, eat it, and feel accomplished but not too accomplished.

So it's all a matter of do you want to put more work in for subjectively less money (if you decided you wont buy into microtransactions), or put in $15 a month (or $60 a year) for less work where everyone has little advantage over the other?


Do you get your jollies off of grinding a skill to make it better?
Or do you like to grind just enough to go take down a raid boss with your pals?

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by Rainbow Dash:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

If you do plenty of research you'll know about the game. Those that give the game a thumbs down have thousands of hours in the game...and still play the game.

false

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Look at it this way: you're willing to spend $180 on WoW a year but you won't spend $10 on a game just to try it out for a few months. Priorities, bruh. Wow is a cash cow. Blizzard made a p2w card game.

yeah wow is a total scam and the base edition of bdo can keep you away from it for some time so you play other stuff and can come back to wow later on if you want so (though you'll still throw $10 at a company that doesn't deserve it)

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Btw, there's no trading in BDO. This is huge. That means there's no gold sellers. Auction houses are also regulated so priced don't rise dramtically or fall dramatically. Someone can't go below the minimum or higher than the max.

also shows that the bdo economy is ♥♥♥♥ and non-immersive and leads people even more into playing it like a singleplayer game and not even as a mmorpg being solo

I like how in every thread you only target me especially when WoW is the hot topic. Triggered much?

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by Rainbow Dash:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

I like how in every thread you only target me especially when WoW is the hot topic. Triggered much?

you're imaginating things. i didn't answer the others because i didn't have anything to say about it, then the ones after who were saying bs but didn't bother to post something. i don't care who you are, i focus on the posts themselves. i didn't even say much about wow, just that like you might have said, it could be interesting to spend $10 to play bdo for a bit and take a break from wow. also aren't you one of the trolls harassing me ; those who post where i do just to talk down about me ? all in all i'm just posting stuffs in a thread, if you don't like it too bad for you. triggered much ?

It's just unusual that I've seen you bounce from thread to thread talking down on this game alot....and I mean alot. I don't say much about it, but then I see your profile, which is private. 1+1. I could only assume you have thousands of hours in the game and now you're salty about this game. Instead of moving on, you hover in the forum boards...probably while still playing the game, but in a previous comment you said "false", so that must mean you don't play the game anymore otherwise you'd be a hypocrit.

So then, why are you in this forum board if you don't play the game anymore? That's actually easy, attention. You crave attention. I wouldn't doubt the game you're most likely playing at the moment isn't on steam but rather something from blizzard. Of course, not WoW. That would be too obvious. Heroes of the Storm, that's your fix at the moment. But you're lonely and you come to this board to reconnect.

[Jack Randall]

Originally posted by Rainbow Dash:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

If you do plenty of research you'll know about the game. Those that give the game a thumbs down have thousands of hours in the game...and still play the game.

false

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Look at it this way: you're willing to spend $180 on WoW a year but you won't spend $10 on a game just to try it out for a few months. Priorities, bruh. Wow is a cash cow. Blizzard made a p2w card game.

yeah wow is a total scam and the base edition of bdo can keep you away from it for some time so you play other stuff and can come back to wow later on if you want so (though you'll still throw $10 at a company that doesn't deserve it)

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Btw, there's no trading in BDO. This is huge. That means there's no gold sellers. Auction houses are also regulated so priced don't rise dramtically or fall dramatically. Someone can't go below the minimum or higher than the max.

also shows that the bdo economy is ♥♥♥♥ and non-immersive and leads people even more into playing it like a singleplayer game and not even as a mmorpg being solo

And you are such authority after playing for 2 months and even not reaching 56 .Go hide kid.

Originally posted by DarkOvcharka:

I hear things. Some positive. Some negateive.

No subscription!

Pay to win!

No one really talks about the lag, or the graphics, or the end game. Can't seem to make it past the super critical isues. Example: Everyone said Watch Dogs was trash. I liked it. Sure UbiSoft is straight up evil for DRM and server lockdown, you can't own what you bought, but the world was really fun to play in.

The game has nothing to do with any MMO you ever played,just go make alt mail and get a 7 days trail from the Offi site and decide on your own.During that time you can get some feeling of what the game is and explore the pearl store to decide how much of a p2w is that on your own.This is the best you can do.

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by Rainbow Dash:

it's funny how when i explain why you are completely wrong you just ignore it and attempt new attacks ad hominem ad vitam aeternam

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

It's just unusual that I've seen you bounce from thread to thread talking down on this game alot....and I mean alot.

i don't, i'm just being objective and provide accurate answers

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

I don't say much about it, but then I see your profile, which is private. 1+1. I could only assume you have thousands of hours in the game and now you're salty about this game. Instead of moving on, you hover in the forum boards...probably while still playing the game,

yes, indeed you ASSUME things, because that's all you can do. ignore the post and attack the poster with imaginated, irrelevant things that would suit your fantasist narrative

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

but in a previous comment you said "false", so that must mean you don't play the game anymore otherwise you'd be a hypocrit.

no, i'm just being logical, here is what you stated that i said is false, but obviously you just point that out without its context :

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

If you do plenty of research you'll know about the game. Those that give the game a thumbs down have thousands of hours in the game...and still play the game.

you said that those giving the game a negative review HAVE thousands of hours in the game AND still play the game. you said to op that all the negative reviews with no exception were from people with thousands of hours and they still played the game to make people believe that the game is just so amazing and all the negative reviews are mistakes or hypocrite people and it's actually a 100% positive reviews. that's exactly what you stated, and you managed to do it with your own lie that's immediately verifiable because not all the negative reviews are from people with thousands of hours already, and not all the negative reviews are from people that still play the game. you stated that all of them were from people with thousands of hours and that all of them still play the game. logical fallacy much ?

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

So then, why are you in this forum board if you don't play the game anymore?

i don't have to explain to some random internet troll why i'm posting on a forum and you're assuming things again

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

That's actually easy, attention. You crave attention. I wouldn't doubt the game you're most likely playing at the moment isn't on steam but rather something from blizzard. Of course, not WoW. That would be too obvious. Heroes of the Storm, that's your fix at the moment. But you're lonely and you come to this board to reconnect.

lol

Originally posted by Jack Randall:

And you are such authority after playing for 2 months and even not reaching 56 .Go hide kid.

i have reached level 56 over a month ago and have several characters, and my first 56 was just after leaving the olvia servers, so in 1 month. i wouldn't even have needed to play the game to be acknowledgeable anyway. but like the others it's easier to ignore facts and do attacks ad hominem with invented things and insults

Originally posted by Jack Randall:

The game has nothing to do with any MMO you ever played,just go make alt mail and get a 7 days trail from the Offi site and decide on your own.During that time you can get some feeling of what the game is and explore the pearl store to decide how much of a p2w is that on your own.This is the best you can do.

so i couldn't know what i'm talking about but he could know just from a short trial ? weird. the trial doesn't show all of the game, especially its p2w features. people usually tend to learn about it after a while. many miss them out on the tutorial. i've seen your other posts and you just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and troll most of the time. so OP be warned you won't necessarly get to witness the p2w during a 7 days trial

dissecting my comments in attempts to ignore the core problems. Keep digging, bruh. Let me know when Heroes of the Storm gets balanced. The newer characters are a bit too much. I know people like you, and it's sad. You have an opinion, but you rather attack other people before expressing your own because it's easier.

Take my original statement where people still play thousands of hours after they've thumbs down and you wrote "false." That is an attempt to say you know more than others. You apparently represent everyone that has thousands of hours in the game to give it a bad review to say they don't play the game ever again. You certainly know where you put the wrong footing. How about you remove your private profile to show us how you really feel? Please...please don't give me that "I don't have to, you're just dumb." excuse, believe me. I know people like you. Arrogant.

[Furmeowistic]

A lot of the things you are used to in wow have all kinds of choke holds on them. P2P trade is a joke, you get taxed out the back, inventory is a joke, a heck of a lot of convoluted requirements and restrictions and if you want the best stuff you are certain to be pushed into P2W

[DCid]

Originally posted by LionessWings:

A lot of the things you are used to in wow have all kinds of choke holds on them. P2P trade is a joke, you get taxed out the back, inventory is a joke, a heck of a lot of convoluted requirements and restrictions and if you want the best stuff you are certain to be pushed into P2W

You cant buy in game weapons and armor and accessories on the cash shop.

You want a Kzarka? Fight bosses or grind until you have 800 mil silver to preorder it on the Market. Grind for 500 mil and buy it from the Night Vendor.

You want to look pretty? Then buy an outfit. You want an easier time grinding for loot? Buy four T1 pets.

But if you want best in slot gear like Kzarka, Kutum, Nouver, Bhegs, Dim Tree, Dandy, etc? You want TRI Marks of Shadow or TET Ogre Ring?

Go grind and grind and grind. Because you're not buying any of those from the cash shop.

[Leng Spider]

BDO doesn't have fast travel because the world is a circle and you work your way to the rim as you get higher in level. I think of it like Discworld. You can walk from anywhere to anywhere in 5-10 minutes. But you usually don't need to travel much until lvl 50+.
Not really any dungeon experiences/instances so far at lvl 51, I'm not quite at end game.
Combat is more like Dynasty Warriors than WoW/RPG combat.
Gear is pretty static and improvement is based on RNG for +1 bonuses. +5 is safe to improve to, after that you can lose your item. I've had the same +5 sword for about half my levels. The trick to equipment is some accessories can combine to form higher tier versions of the acceessory with better abilities and stats. More like evolving pokemon than WoW.
You have two sets of skills which are two weapons with different fighting syles. You can have all the skill points in the world regardless of level, though abilities to have level requirements. So instead of WoW where your gear meant more than your level at the end game, your skills mean more than your level in BDO at the end game. Though there is still a significant difference in a fully equipped TRI/tier four accessory or TET/tier 5 accessory player in terms of equipment. It goes Base accessory -> PRI -> DUO -> TRI -> TET. After over 40 hours of PvE I have not been motivated to try forging anything yet, it feels very end game to me, like oh, now that all the quests are done, let's retire and enjoy our nice hobby of smashing necklaces together to make better necklaces.
You level super fast in BDO. Approx 40 hours for me to hit lvl 50, and I went pretty slow. There are guides to grind to 50 in like 2 hours or something.
Lifeskills - pretty much like WoW, or any other RPG, but with workers.
Inventory - PITA. Stacks go up pretty much forever so it's not unmanageable, but each town gives you 16 storage slots that you have to physically go to in order to access again. Luckily it's not like you need to carry multiple equipment sets or 10 stacks of healing potions or anything like that. You only need to carry however many cubic zaronium rings you need to smash together to make a diamond ring.

[Jack Randall]

Originally posted by Rainbow Dash:

it's funny how when i explain why you are completely wrong you just ignore it and attempt new attacks ad hominem ad vitam aeternam

Originally posted by Jack Randall:

And you are such authority after playing for 2 months and even not reaching 56 .Go hide kid.

i have reached level 56 over a month ago and have several characters, and my first 56 was just after leaving the olvia servers, so in 1 month. i wouldn't even have needed to play the game to be acknowledgeable anyway. but like the others it's easier to ignore facts and do attacks ad hominem with invented things and insults

Originally posted by Jack Randall:

The game has nothing to do with any MMO you ever played,just go make alt mail and get a 7 days trail from the Offi site and decide on your own.During that time you can get some feeling of what the game is and explore the pearl store to decide how much of a p2w is that on your own.This is the best you can do.

so i couldn't know what i'm talking about but he could know just from a short trial ? weird. the trial doesn't show all of the game, especially its p2w features. people usually tend to learn about it after a while. many miss them out on the tutorial. i've seen your other posts and you just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and troll most of the time. so OP be warned you won't necessarly get to witness the p2w during a 7 days trial

Bravos for reaching the end of the tutotrial, tho I still doubt it higly based on your previous statements across multiple threads .And yes he can see and check the descriptions of the items in the pearl store,to decide for him self how much ofa p2w they ofer actualy. Your statement that you barely have 450 LT with your tamer,all chars at 56 have 500 LT basic carry weight ,+200 from loyalties you are set to go with no problems,that based on my alts that are not even 56 and have less then 15 Strenght .And judging from your previous statements,how colours are P2W i am simply speachless.If you are demoralized because some one is wearing a swag suit ,well that speaks to other sort of issues ,and not about p2w now does it ?Now i am waiting already for around a month for you to show me a exp table that compares exp per level for costumes and for whithout costumes.You say it adds up,when the fact is that you have no clue about how the exp gain decreases over at higher levels,and how it counts or accumulates over the grind period of even one hour at higher levels then 56..There is a reason why many people go grind only with the 200% daily exp buff,on weekends after they reach 56+.Because at 58 for example for you to make even 5% of your level you will need like 2-3 hours without buff.Hell you barely make for 1 hour those 5% on weekends with the 200% daily exp + 15% exp from dark beer ,+8% from tea,+10% from exp scrolls that are for 10 minutes + exp elexir ,costume 10% and another 9% from pets.That is based on my personal experience so far.Also you ignore what people keep repeating and asume that exp stacks.Let me clarify this for you.At 58 one cressent warrior gives you exactly 0,004 % of your level.10% of 0,004 % = 0,01 % which isn't =/= to 0,014 % it is = to 0,004.001%.So it to even reach 100 units of extra XP ,it will translate to 0,001 % of your level,such adds ,much exp gain.,thus many people ignore the 10% costume exp.Because it is less then a 0% bonus exp per mob after you reach higher levels.
It adds up but in a whole different way from what you are assuming it to.Experiment done by me and my buddy ,with same exp buffs ,and him farming whitout costume,translated into less then 10 minutes of farm ,for reaching 58 lv when we both started on different chanels same rotation on cressent,from lvl 57 95,000% exp.And even at 60 + that wouldn't translate to days as you claim ,that is assumption bassed on no actual experience,nor anithing .Based only on the exp stacking ROFL.It will translate into 1 hour the most.Such game breaking buffs ,much p2w......

P.S. Oh and i almost forgot ,based on your previous statements ,that weight limit and slots give you more income due to been able to stay at a grind spot for longer ,you fail to realise several things.1st you don't need actualy all the drop,2nd you aparently lack basic menagment skills ,or organizational threats.For more than a year ,i never bothered with the majority of crap the game drops to me ,and i still have GS of 470 + and 220 on Awekened.Full boss gear ,TETs ,Ogre DUO etc.Only because i am capable of menaging my resources acording to my needs and been able to focus on goals.You want to have that in less then a month ?Go hide ,and learn how to work towards your goals,would ya mate ?

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the worst problem is the pop in in this game , i can't stand it