What's the best class of AoE attack farming?

[L-laine]

I bought the game during the sale last week and haven't started it up yet (took several days to download anyway) and I want to know which class has the easiest time grinding. I was thinking about taking the Darkknight class first but have no idea how it plays.

[Y_u_no_come]

Ranger - ultimate descending. Literally raining death. Clears areas faster than all classes.

Followed by witch/wizard, which have a few AoEs but not as far as range as ranger.

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Ranger - ultimate descending. Literally raining death. Clears areas faster than all classes.

Followed by witch/wizard, which have a few AoEs but not as far as range as ranger.

"A few" basicly eveyr one of their spells is an AOE and has an AOE combo you can do with it, only move I know that a wizard has that isn't AOE is the what F to thrust the dagger, and the ice bolt thing wich you can turn into an AOE freeze and then latter on you get blizzard a huge AOE ice spell.

Did iI miss something or this guy troling hard? I got wizzard its a beast, and it only gets more AOE as it grows, and ranger is well a bow user unless I missed a batch in last few months every guide out there says its mroe of a single target ranged dps class...

[buchecker]

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Ranger - ultimate descending. Literally raining death. Clears areas faster than all classes.

Followed by witch/wizard, which have a few AoEs but not as far as range as ranger.

Haha no not really, what level are you?

@OP DK, Witch/Wiz, the latter ones in general also have an easier time in harder areas due to 2 heals.

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by TOG Zalzany:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Ranger - ultimate descending. Literally raining death. Clears areas faster than all classes.

Followed by witch/wizard, which have a few AoEs but not as far as range as ranger.

"A few" basicly eveyr one of their spells is an AOE and has an AOE combo you can do with it, only move I know that a wizard has that isn't AOE is the what F to thrust the dagger, and the ice bolt thing wich you can turn into an AOE freeze and then latter on you get blizzard a huge AOE ice spell.

Did iI miss something or this guy troling hard? I got wizzard its a beast, and it only gets more AOE as it grows, and ranger is well a bow user unless I missed a batch in last few months every guide out there says its mroe of a single target ranged dps class...

You can burn through those AoEs fast, which you're left without AoEs. I say few because ultimate descending doesn't need a cooldown, just mana.

[buchecker]

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

You can burn through those AoEs fast, which you're left without AoEs. I say few because ultimate descending doesn't need a cooldown, just mana.

Noone that knows how to play Ranger uses that skill for farming, so back to the question what level are you?

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by buchecker:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

You can burn through those AoEs fast, which you're left without AoEs. I say few because ultimate descending doesn't need a cooldown, just mana.

Noone that knows how to play Ranger uses that skill for farming, so back to the question what level are you?

56: E one hit cancel to ultimate descending for 30+ Attack boost > A/D step cancel > ultimate descending > A/D step cancel > awakening shift+q > switch back > repeat.

Shotgun isn't even needed in this setup unless you're up against a miniboss. Q-spam? If you want to just be fast, you'll mana chug. E shot for boost when it runs out.

Witch:52 (still lvling): shift+rbm to round them all up, side step S+Q, shift+ space > 180 > speed boost > thunder > move > mana drain > repeat > earthquake is a substitution or insta meteor, but even witches AoEs are slow in comparison to ranger.

[axelmonster]

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

56: E one hit cancel to ultimate descending for 30+ Attack boost > A/D step cancel > ultimate descending > A/D step cancel > awakening shift+q > switch back > repeat.

Shotgun isn't even needed in this setup unless you're up against a miniboss. Q-spam? If you want to just be fast, you'll mana chug. E shot for boost when it runs out.

Witch:52 (still lvling): shift+rbm to round them all up, side step S+Q, shift+ space > 180 > speed boost > thunder > move > mana drain > repeat > earthquake is a substitution or insta meteor, but even witches AoEs are slow in comparison to ranger.

So you're comparing awakened Ranger to non-awakened witch?
Sounds legit.

Wizard/witch/DK are generally considered to be the top 3 strongest classes. Especially for PvE grinding.

[Y_u_no_come]

Originally posted by axelmonster:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

56: E one hit cancel to ultimate descending for 30+ Attack boost > A/D step cancel > ultimate descending > A/D step cancel > awakening shift+q > switch back > repeat.

Shotgun isn't even needed in this setup unless you're up against a miniboss. Q-spam? If you want to just be fast, you'll mana chug. E shot for boost when it runs out.

Witch:52 (still lvling): shift+rbm to round them all up, side step S+Q, shift+ space > 180 > speed boost > thunder > move > mana drain > repeat > earthquake is a substitution or insta meteor, but even witches AoEs are slow in comparison to ranger.

So you're comparing awakened Ranger to non-awakened witch?
Sounds legit.

Wizard/witch/DK are generally considered to be the top 3 strongest classes. Especially for PvE grinding.

did you forget the original question? What class is the best for AoE farming? Grant it that dark knight should be up there, but I doubt witch/wizard can be up there as well consider how slow they move. I only know rangers farm better than most because I do rain arrows In others' farming spots and take their entire 40 kills. Don't get me wrong, I do get ganked for it but I was just referring to how much more than can AoE farm than most.

You're really going to sit there and say witch/wizard post awakening can out run or par with a ranger with mobility? Take hex for example, easy as heck for a 56+ (farming reasons) since it is one of the top farming spots for silver, also saunil, if that's the route you wanna go since it's extremely low level. They're one-shotters. A ranger can clear the entire field faster than a witch/wizard because not only is the shot range farther but they can run spot to spot much faster. It's not about power, it's about speed. Speed of attacks, speed of mobility, and range of the attack.

So before you brush me off because you think you know so much, just a reminder, this isn't "whose class is better in a 1v1, siege or node Wars?" It's a "whose class can kill everything faster to get me paid."

Also, I know you'll point out pirate island or sausan. 1) you need a party. 2) you have a high chance being ganked by a pvper which is extreme downtime.

[axelmonster]

You don't need party for Sausan or Pirate if your gear is decent.
Pirates takes more gear, as it tends to be overpopulated and you have to fight to claim a rotation.
Or you can move to one of the Valencia spots. Bashims is nice and easy, worse money but similar XP to Sausan, especially since it tends to be fairly empty. Villa close by for repairs and emptying inventory (has currency exchange, so just turn money into gold and store on your horse).

Are you seriously farming Saunils and Hexes at level 56? You need to get your gear sorted out.
At least move on to Helms, Manes or Rogues in Mediah, if Sausans and Elrics are too hard for you. You are doing yourself a big disfavour, gimping your XP and money earned. If you are farming mobs 5-10 levels below yourself I understand why you think your ranger is more effective than a Wizard, as you are indeed faster. Try moving on to a proper grindspot for your level. What is your gearscore?

Because of the insane damage modifiers on their awakening skills, witches and wizards will always outfarm you.
They gain a fair bit of mobility through teleports, and damage goes through the roof.
They get stupid accuracy modifiers on all their awakening abilitis, and a +20 AP passive, meaning they need 20 AP less than all other classes to be effective.
On top of that, they can also heal, have the largest area AOE abilities, and probably the highest damage output.
Ranger is definitely one of the top PvE classes, but witch and wizard with 20 lower AP will outperform basically every other class, besides maybe DK. If your AP is like 230+, then Musa is probably the best.

Don't get me wrong, I don't play wiz or witch myself, I find their gameplay incredibly boring and one-dimensional, but there is no denying that Wizard, Witch and DK are overall the 3 strongest classes in the game.

[angelo]

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

Originally posted by axelmonster:

So you're comparing awakened Ranger to non-awakened witch?
Sounds legit.

Wizard/witch/DK are generally considered to be the top 3 strongest classes. Especially for PvE grinding.

did you forget the original question? What class is the best for AoE farming? Grant it that dark knight should be up there, but I doubt witch/wizard can be up there as well consider how slow they move. I only know rangers farm better than most because I do rain arrows In others' farming spots and take their entire 40 kills. Don't get me wrong, I do get ganked for it but I was just referring to how much more than can AoE farm than most.

You're really going to sit there and say witch/wizard post awakening can out run or par with a ranger with mobility? Take hex for example, easy as heck for a 56+ (farming reasons) since it is one of the top farming spots for silver, also saunil, if that's the route you wanna go since it's extremely low level. They're one-shotters. A ranger can clear the entire field faster than a witch/wizard because not only is the shot range farther but they can run spot to spot much faster. It's not about power, it's about speed. Speed of attacks, speed of mobility, and range of the attack.

So before you brush me off because you think you know so much, just a reminder, this isn't "whose class is better in a 1v1, siege or node Wars?" It's a "whose class can kill everything faster to get me paid."

Also, I know you'll point out pirate island or sausan. 1) you need a party. 2) you have a high chance being ganked by a pvper which is extreme downtime.

how delusional are you? are you aware that you can reach lvl 50 using nothing besides lightning chain? you just aim and everything dies, is not even fun and even without it they can still outgrind pretty much every single class without even trying, frigit fog+earthquake=everything dies, lighining+residual lighning=everything dies, lightning chain+lightning storm=everything dies, and it only gets worse after awakening because most of their skills are a one shot kill for most mobs and they recover a lot of mana per hit so they can keep spaming those attacks without problems.
also you know that is not necessary for you to go to sausans or pirates right? and why are you talking about killing saunils or skeletons at lvl 56? my lvl 56 witch with 150ap can kill a group of bashims in a couple of seconds, what i do while grinding is spam fisure wave, teleport, voltaic pulse, teleport, fisure wave, teleport, voltaic pulse, teleport and repeat until i feel my braincells dying, and no Ranger can keep up with that no matter how hard they try

[axelmonster]

Originally posted by angelo:

how delusional are you?

I'm pretty sure his gear score is below 200. Probably not delusional, just ignorant.
Anyone who grinds at SAUNILS at level 56 clearly doesn't know what they are doing.

[6footgeek]

personal opinion

witch/dk

[2PLY]

yup witch/wiz if you wanna aoe dump.

a single one with decent gear can stomp the popular max level(ing) zone to the point of just running to keep up with them can be difficult lol.

[Kai]

If you farm mobs lower level than you, your item drop rate drops dramatically.

The devs intentionally design the drop rate and item trade in to be rewarding to those who grind their way upward, not downward.

It's never about the silver you get per enemy, but the XP actually, silver is of no problem unless you are rushing to compete with someone, which I personally think is a waste of effort in the long run.

[buchecker]

Originally posted by axelmonster:

Originally posted by Y_u_no_come:

56: E one hit cancel to ultimate descending for 30+ Attack boost > A/D step cancel > ultimate descending > A/D step cancel > awakening shift+q > switch back > repeat.

Shotgun isn't even needed in this setup unless you're up against a miniboss. Q-spam? If you want to just be fast, you'll mana chug. E shot for boost when it runs out.

Witch:52 (still lvling): shift+rbm to round them all up, side step S+Q, shift+ space > 180 > speed boost > thunder > move > mana drain > repeat > earthquake is a substitution or insta meteor, but even witches AoEs are slow in comparison to ranger.

So you're comparing awakened Ranger to non-awakened witch?
Sounds legit.

Wizard/witch/DK are generally considered to be the top 3 strongest classes. Especially for PvE grinding.

He has no clue what hes talking about. Using descending current with awakening ranger is just pure nonsense. But considering that 56 can be done in less than 10h i dont expect him to know much about the class.