Completely stuck due to karma

[playwithpingu471]

So im new, I did not understand karma and thought if I defend myself from people I will be ok, little did I know that killing 6 people is equal to -750,000 karma. How this happens is just insane imo but whatever. Problem is now, my character cannot go anywhere without dying to guards, my gear is broken, my gems are gone, I can't enter a city to try and drop my gear off at storage to make an alt and give it them... So im literally stuck with what to do. 750,000 just seems like the developers went overboard for no reason, I only killed 6 people yet im now unable to do anything in game at all. Everyone can freely kill me, guards can wreck my face with me unable to even react, and my gear will constantly devolve and break with me having no way to react. If you don't want pvp to be in the game, don't, you should not punish new people from defending themselves by ruining their account and everything they own in game. Im not sure if to just quit at this point since I cannot find a way to trade my gear to an alt and everything is on this character as it was high level life skills, professional in 3 areas and artisan in 1.

[Sandman]

Ramsickle eredeti hozzászólása:

You should have no problem if you really only defended yourself and didn't flag them, which honesty doesn't sound like the case here.

When you go negative karma you go more negative for defending yourself. You just have to run. It's stupid.

In the desert if you get flagged as an outlaw by killing someone, even if you're still positive karma, you lose karma if they flag up on you and you kill them. Even more stupid.

[Ramsickle]

Sandman eredeti hozzászólása:

Ramsickle eredeti hozzászólása:

You should have no problem if you really only defended yourself and didn't flag them, which honesty doesn't sound like the case here.

When you go negative karma you go more negative for defending yourself. You just have to run. It's stupid.

In the desert if you get flagged as an outlaw by killing someone, even if you're still positive karma, you lose karma if they flag up on you and you kill them. Even more stupid.

From what I am understanding he never initiated even once nor was in the desert from his plea yet 6 people jumped him randomly, that's where I doubt parts. It's late however and could be misinterpreting something or looked over something.

I've yet to have this issue since I started but maybe I've been lucky, I've only had to defend myself twice without consequence.

[Mashtooth]

Why even add PVP, if you're going to punish PKers? But you can buy karma? This is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[jenrey]

I only tell you that the new karma system is great because one thing is PVP and other thing is Bullings people that has lower lever than you. And some 56+ level just parking themself in a good grinder place for have all the loots and money and dont give the oportunity to lower lever people to level up their character.

[Ghost]

Mashtooth eredeti hozzászólása:

Why even add PVP, if you're going to punish PKers? But you can buy karma? This is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

LOL, you've never done something, whether in game, or real-life, where you've gone, "oh crap, maybe I shoulodn't have done that!"

There's a reason it's called Tear of Repentance, for those that genuinely feel that way, but of course it's abused, lol.

[Juiciest Lemon]

To be fair...the karma penalty used to be 60k karma per kill but they upped it to 120k to deter people from killing steam players. This is irony at it's finest.

[FIGHTSPRAWL]

First of all we need details to give you better advice. What level did you hit etc. Also remember if you're negative karma your gear can downgrade when you die.

[playwithpingu471]

Not sure why everyone is talking like I have gone out of my way to slaughter a load of people. I have no idea what karma bombing is, I have no need to kill random pepple afk fishing, that seems wierd as hell to me. I levelled solely from life skills and someone advised me to go catfish at 50, so I thought I would try it out. I ended up killing 6 people, not all at once, but they kept stealing from me and 3 of them attacked me and ran, I got angry and googled how to attack back, got told to press alt and C, figured I could fend off the ones who started attacking me. I did not have a clue what the consequences were, and they brought friends along who ended up camping my ass at the node, I logged off pretty angry and when I logged in the next day I realised I was pretty much screwed due to karma. Again im new, there was nothing describing this in game or the consequences I would face, I have had to google everything just to find out my character is royally screwed. This happened within around 20 minutes total, from them starting this to me getting angry, then being camped preventing me from spawning back at the node.

I don't care about whether this has not happened to you, that is not my concern, this post is made solely to try and find a reasonable solution, which seems to be rerolling a new character so I have done. Maybe this post will be of some help to other new players who read this before getting into my situation. You guys sound like pros at the game who know all these intricate details of pvp and stuff, I clearly am a noob and don't have a clue what most of this means. Really don't see why this system is so harsh, its a noob server for noob people so im not sure whats going on with this extreme karma thing that can just force a person to delete a character due to it.

If they don't want pvp in the game, don't put it in. I have never met a system so strange before, I come from games like world of warcraft and guild wars 2 where open world pvp is a quick fun affair and then you move on.

[Proctor Cain]

tiantian582 eredeti hozzászólása:

Its supposed to be like real life. Freedom of action. But not freedom from consequences. The system can still be exploited though. The trick is to kill one person. Farm karma to max before killing second person and going negative. Then kill a second person and repeat. You can become a serial killer and never experience negative karma.

What is the motivation to do this? Boredom?

[TJ the HedgeScout]

Yeah that seems rather cheap... :\
Lack of consequence

[Ivan Kyoshiro]

You can just grinding your way through hell killing monsters to gain the good karma, or via loyalty points by buying tears of repetance.

You started the game badly, usually if players wants to commit negative karma, they will do it on later game when their gears are top-end and set sail as pirates, never returun to mainland....unless they are free players ofc.

[Proctor Cain]

This thread has been Necroed. OP might not be playing BDO still

[S-Ranked Detective]

Boink eredeti hozzászólása:

New player lvl 50 "defending" himself against 6 other players who surprisingly just attacked him from nowhere.

Been playing this game for a month now and I only been pk'd twice.

Shady story. Sounds like someone decided to troll afk fishers, weight and breathe trainers.

xD hahahahaha facts

[S-Ranked Detective]

kirbynathan eredeti hozzászólása:

First of all we need details to give you better advice. What level did you hit etc. Also remember if you're negative karma your gear can downgrade when you die.

the chance of your gear downgrading at tet or pen is lower then 1% after dying with high negative karma thou.

[S-Ranked Detective]

Sandman eredeti hozzászólása:

Poison eredeti hozzászólása:

This thread is kinda ironic because the changes was made to protect new players.
https://clips.twitch.tv/RepleteCrepuscularLardGOWSkull
And no, EU/NA did not have the lowest karma per kill, because RU had the same amount and still do right now.

Yeah I know they did it to protect new players, but the consequence of this is karma bombing is worse. They either need to revamp pvp or get rid of the ridiculous karma hit now.

They're taking all the PVP out of the game and it sucks. Why do Steam players need hand holding? We used to lose xp when we died at launch.

yea but think about it like this lets say there are players that are actively grinding for exp

they are lvl 64-65-66 and they lose exp do you even realize how much hours those digits of exp loss is going to be in real time ?