CPU demanding monster?

[Mordtziel]

So the game kinda runs like...well not hell...but it's not smooth, regardless of my graphics setting (only 5 fps difference between optimization mode and very high).

So standing in town (heidel?), staring into a crowd of people zoomed out to the max, I get about 25-30 fps once it more or less stablizies (27-30 on optimization). I also play at 1440p with a 144 hz monitor.

My hardware breaks down as follows...

Processor: i5-3570k
Video Card: EVGA GTX 1070
RAM: 32 GB DDR3-1600
Drive: SATA III SSD
Audio Card: Xonar DSX

All of these with stock settings. No overclocking has been done.

Is this expected results with this hardware? If not I'm curious what it could be since it would be something that's starting up on boot :\

Looking at it all, I'm pretty sure the Processor and RAM are the weak points. Mostly just because they're both outdated as hell. But I also believe processors haven't seen much improvement since I picked it up? And I hear it's an ideal one for overclocking. Is that true? And if it IS the issue and I can resolve it that way, can someone link me to an overclocking guide for it? Or have I heard wrong and processors exist that are far better? If it's RAM, that's easy enough to replace.

I'd like to at least hold consistent at 60 fps if 144 is not possible :\

[hamskin]

1440p may be too high even for a 1070. 25-30fps in town packed seems about right though. Issue it seems maybe be on your end?, i'm at max with DOF, and motion blur off because i hate them, Res on 1080p on a rx480 and i don't notice my FPS dropping below 40 at all for some reason as alot of people seem to have heavier dips on better hardware.
While i haven't checked my FPS, i haven't noticed any screen tear or that low of slows downs i guess since i'm on a freesync monitor.(which i'm basing of the fact i have yet to have screen tearing with vsync off)
Will add though i have a 2500k and 8GB of mem, which my CPU overclocked to 4.4.
Have you checked to see if you're getting bottle necked at all?

[Mordtziel]

While i haven't checked my FPS, i haven't noticed any screen tear or that low of slows downs i guess since i'm on a freesync monitor.
Will add though i have a 2500k and 8GB of mem, which my CPU overclocked to 4.4.
Have you checked to see if you're getting bottle necked at all?

Oh I forgot to mention I have dual monitors, the one I'm playing on has GSync (which is turned on) but the other monitor is 1080p and no gsync (is that an issue?).
I'm not totally sure how to check for bottlenecking, I'm sure there's a specific program you have in mind? Looking at my resource monitor, I sit at around 90% cpu usage on all cores (which is what makes me think it's CPU).

[Sonny Mastrangioli]

general rule of thumb with multi monitor setups is that you ALWAYS make sure each monitor is the same one, if one has a different refresh rate for example 1 is 60hz, another 50hz, and a third is 144hz, then you will have problems.

[hamskin]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Oh I forgot to mention I have dual monitors, the one I'm playing on has GSync (which is turned on) but the other monitor is 1080p and no gsync (is that an issue?).
I'm not totally sure how to check for bottlenecking, I'm sure there's a specific program you have in mind? Looking at my resource monitor, I sit at around 90% cpu usage on all cores (which is what makes me think it's CPU).

100% on CPU and not hitting 100% on CPU is a bottleneck of sorts depending on the engine. MSI after burner will tell you with it's overlay. Gonna need to mess with OSD, and monitering settings to get it setup which isn't too hard. Then see how it looks in game with the overlay on.

As for gsync, i have no clue if it works for multimonitors(pretty sure it does though, just not windowed fullscreen, unless nvidia fixed that recently), gsync/freesync does help a hell of alot though to not notice slowdowns aslong as it's withen the gsync/freesync range.

[Big Boom Boom]

Yes the game is single threaded and demands very high clock single core. Couple with the fact your CPU is quite old and up to 20% less IPC compared to current gen, it is expected.

Also GTX 1070 was never a good 1440p card, unless you are willing to dial down a lot of setting. GTX 1080 is what I would recommend as a 1440p and the 1080 Ti as 4K.

Just FYI I got around 50 fps in Calpheon sometimes dip to 45, with i7-6700k running at 4.7 GHz and GTX 1080 clock at 2025 MHz. So I would say you have zero hope to get 60 fps in cities with your specs.

[Mordtziel]

Alright I installed afterburner and looking through it all...

GPU usage: 40-55%
CPU usage: 90-94%
RAM usage: ~8600 mb
Pagefile usage: ~12700 mb

And with big boom's post...Overclock or Buy new?

[Exadus]

Id recommend upgrading your motherboard to the z170s getting a decent cpu something in the 3.8ghz stock to 4.0ghz stock than with that cpu and motherboard upgrade to ddr4 ram atleast 16gbs at 2800mhz than you should be able to run pretty much anything. As of right now your cpu is killing you.

I am running a asus z170 pro gaming aura MB. i7 6700k OC to 4.3ghz with a h100i v2 closed looped cooler( I can easily OC to 4.8ghz but im happy with my 4.3ghz 40-45c full load). 32gb of G.skillz V 2800mhz ram and than my prize piece an asus rog strix GTX 1080 TI. Ofc my rig is better but I easily get 100-150fps all the time no matter where.

I am using a corsair 750d airflow case with 3 corsair ML pro fans and the rad only has the 2 stock fans but will be upgrading them to and adding 2 more so 2 on each side so 4 on the rad which I really do not need but the cooler the system the longer it last even though I barely break 45c on full load and prime95 and every stress test for my cpu hasnt been able to push it over 50c ever lol.

P.S I am running a 4k res montior with the game running at 4k and UI upscaling to 140 I believe.

[Big Boom Boom]

Got to Calpheon yet? There is no CPU that run 100 fps in Calpheon unless arbitrarily low resolution and very low settings. This is why steam players think their fps is fine, they probably haven't got to Calpheon and they play on Olvia server. Maybe I should move to Olvia and check out the steam players lol, I was on hiatus for 3 months so I can.

[BraveCat]

well great, I just got this game today but not playing it until I set up my new computer, which is a vast upgrade from what I have now, but not even as good as those specs, fx6300 3.5ghz which is basically the amd counterpart to that intel processor, and my gpu is staying the same, gt 730 4gb vram, 8 gigs of ram to start with, 32 max, really solid motherboard, so beastly it wouldnt fit in my current tower so i have to wait longer til my new case comes. I was betting on easily running this game on at least lower settings, but I didnt hink of the fact this game might have poor optimization, but I didnt see anything about these issues in the handful of good and bad reviews I read.

[Mordtziel]

I was betting on easily running this game on at least lower settings, but I didnt hink of the fact this game might have poor optimization, but I didnt see anything about these issues in the handful of good and bad reviews I read.

Yea, I run every other game I have smoothly (I suppose most impressive in terms of demand being Watch_Dogs 2) with at most lowering a shader and I certainly wasn't expecting to chug along like I am.

[Big Boom Boom]

I used to play this on AMD-FX 6300 and GTX 760 last year, the fps in city was horrible slideshow 15-20 fps on 1080p. The FX is not as good as i5. Keep in mind there were a lot more people during launch last year though.

P.S i did OC my FX to 4.3Ghz on stock voltage. It was a badass golden chip that could reach 5.0Ghz.

[hamskin]

Originally posted by Big Boom Boom:

Got to Calpheon yet? There is no CPU that run 100 fps in Calpheon unless arbitrarily low resolution and very low settings. This is why steam players think their fps is fine, they probably haven't got to Calpheon and they play on Olvia server. Maybe I should move to Olvia and check out the steam players lol, I was on hiatus for 3 months so I can.

while not 100fps i was going fine hovering at or above 40fps there since it's right at my freesync range(was both in steam servers and on the regular servers this weekend to join a guild as i was there). My only issue of occasinaly hitting a load wall where my character froze if i log in and ride around on my horse to fast.

Originally posted by WHG | BraveCat:

fx6300 3.5ghz which is basically the amd counterpart to that intel processor, and my gpu is staying the same, gt 730 4gb vram, 8 gigs of ram to start with, 32 max, really solid motherboard.

Thing is that CPU isn't anywhere close to that intel CPU, AMD CPUs haven't stepped up untill recently with their ryzen proccessors. While it may have competed with it when they launched it , it was pretty much utterly smashed, though i hate to say it.

[Exadus]

Originally posted by Big Boom Boom:

Got to Calpheon yet? There is no CPU that run 100 fps in Calpheon unless arbitrarily low resolution and very low settings. This is why steam players think their fps is fine, they probably haven't got to Calpheon and they play on Olvia server. Maybe I should move to Olvia and check out the steam players lol, I was on hiatus for 3 months so I can.

I am personally running maxed out everything but if I turn off high end mode or w.e it is called in the settings my fps jumps up another 100fps plus so around 200-300 fps in cities havent been to calpheon though yet.

[Mordtziel]

I see people claiming they can get as high as 4.8 ghz with this processor...would that be good enough? I do need to invest in better cooling I can see as my cpu is getting over 70C as is.

[Big Boom Boom]

Would like to see a screen shot of this magic 200+ fps in city ROFL. Just go to Heide and take ss with fps counter, next to market NPC.

I doubt even the 7Ghz i7-7700k on LN2 could post 200fps on 4K. Heck not even 1440p. Steam never disappoint me.