Zeokage My Dear Friend

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Originally posted by Zeokage:

The best way from what I know to report someone cheating is to send in a ticket via {LINK REMOVED}support.2k.com. It's not to cover anything up, it's the official method to tell 2K about the problem.

Callouts fall under trolling/flaming under 2K's interpretation of the rules, so while I can understand the desire to name and shame, it's not allowed.

Are you here to troll the NBA2K PC community ? Since year 2015 thousands of cheaters have been reported by your supposedly best way to report someone cheating without any effects then until 2k mind move their aces to secure the game the best way to stay aware who's cheating is to expose them on this forum

I hope you are not only here to troll people locking threads ;) without trace and send information back to 2k devs

[MERQ]

Forum is Dead

Kido just backoff this game is already boring. Look at what you did! Only 4 new thread in 24 hours. Go find a girl then make some chocolate chip cookies. I wanna blame the nubs and expose the cheaters cuz those are my constitutional rights. Just backoff sir! or i have to shoot you!

[Moses]

2nd amendment gives him the right to defend himself against your tyranny with many guns, sir. Respect his wishes.

[Zeokage]

Originally posted by Perke:

I know it's not your fault and you have to do your job.
But this is a well-known issue, it's been the same last year and I'm sure that people at 2k are well-aware of this and that they just don't care.
People glitch everything as soon as the round start and get into highest tier within 12h, which is literally impossible.
Maybe tell them there would be a lot more money spent on 2k by players if everything wasn't so cheap in myteam because of Chinese bots overflowing the auction house. That should get their attention.

I think you missed the point of why I said that...

What I mean to say is that bringing it up in this thread won't help anything as it's not the topic of discussion. All I want to get across in this thread is my role and intentions so everyone has an idea, then it will be closed. I wouldn't want you to have to restart it after making headway in a discussion with someone in this thread.

Each topic should have its own thread anyway.

[Kris]

Originally posted by <Lucifer>:

I've reached out to Mike Wang and Ronnie on Twitter several times with irrefutable proof (Day #1 99 on PC and some video of 7'3 centers with Kyrie handles and Curry shooting abilities) and all I got was... being ignored. Several times.

They know, but don't care because PC is just extra cash for them as they put all their focus on consoles.

Originally posted by ZenithM:

We've tried for years. Petitions, reports, threads everywhere, tweeting at them, you name it. It doesn't work.

I think they actually do care, just not in the way we'd like them to. I'd imagine there's a pretty large number of people that buy the PC version specifically for the ability to cheat, mod and whatnot. 2K probably fears they're gonna lose money if they stop cheating on PC.

Contacting support is useless, by the way. They are not allowed to speak on the issue of cheaters on PC and they are unable to contact the game developers. Or so they told me. And now 2K is sending in henchmen to censor anything and everything negative being said about the game in a ridiculous attempt to cover up their gross incompetence and money grabbing ways.

[Oliverson Jr]

Originally posted by Kris:

Originally posted by <Lucifer>:

I've reached out to Mike Wang and Ronnie on Twitter several times with irrefutable proof (Day #1 99 on PC and some video of 7'3 centers with Kyrie handles and Curry shooting abilities) and all I got was... being ignored. Several times.

They know, but don't care because PC is just extra cash for them as they put all their focus on consoles.

Originally posted by ZenithM:

We've tried for years. Petitions, reports, threads everywhere, tweeting at them, you name it. It doesn't work.

I think they actually do care, just not in the way we'd like them to. I'd imagine there's a pretty large number of people that buy the PC version specifically for the ability to cheat, mod and whatnot. 2K probably fears they're gonna lose money if they stop cheating on PC.

Contacting support is useless, by the way. They are not allowed to speak on the issue of cheaters on PC and they are unable to contact the game developers. Or so they told me. And now 2K is sending in henchmen to censor anything and everything negative being said about the game in a ridiculous attempt to cover up their gross incompetence and money grabbing ways.

+1
I made one big post a while ago(2016, 2017?) in the 2K Forum with detailed proofs of people cheating and that the 2K Admins/Employees are not interested to fix it, even with simple tricks how to fix the cheater problem. ((a.e activating VAC which bans you from the game if you try to inject or edit something within the game, every 14y old which is working on it for like a few hours could set it up and it would stop 95% of the cheaters at all). All I got was a ban on the 2K Forum and the thread Shadow-Deleted. Even after my Reddit post with around 1500 Upvoates and 100.000 Views nothing changed, the only thing 2k was trying was to get it deleted from there.

Thats why I switched now from PC to PS4 with some other friends, curious that the support tickets there get solved in around 2hours while PC tickets are prob still open from 2 months ago. x)

[<Lucifer>]

My tickets have always been responded to within an hour and I've always got great help once they notice it's not a common issue I have that can't be fixed by following some links (they do love to send those premade responses)

2K support just aren't allowed to be able to help you the way many other developers allow their support departments. They can really only help you with things that can be solved on YOUR end. Probably also why all the reporting of cheating, glitching and the like doesn't reach the higher ups, unless it costs the company profits. The bans in 2k16 comes to mind. Only those either cheating the stat upgrades (not paying VC for them) or taking advantage of VC gained from simming games... which they should have fixed before the game came out, you know... like any other developer would have. (Oh that's right... beta testing doesn't exist in 2K)

[Zeokage]

Originally posted by Kris:

I think they actually do care, just not in the way we'd like them to. I'd imagine there's a pretty large number of people that buy the PC version specifically for the ability to cheat, mod and whatnot. 2K probably fears they're gonna lose money if they stop cheating on PC.

Contacting support is useless, by the way. They are not allowed to speak on the issue of cheaters on PC and they are unable to contact the game developers. Or so they told me. And now 2K is sending in henchmen to censor anything and everything negative being said about the game in a ridiculous attempt to cover up their gross incompetence and money grabbing ways.

What specifically were you asking them when they said they couldn't speak on the issue of cheaters on PC? As for not being able to contact the developers directly, that sounds true.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that I'm here to censor everything negative, though. If that was the case, this thread would have been deleted long ago.

Originally posted by CEliverson:

I made one big post a while ago(2016, 2017?) in the 2K Forum with detailed proofs of people cheating and that the 2K Admins/Employees are not interested to fix it, even with simple tricks how to fix the cheater problem....All I got was a ban on the 2K Forum and the thread Shadow-Deleted. Even after my Reddit post with around 1500 Upvoates and 100.000 Views nothing changed, the only thing 2k was trying was to get it deleted from there.

As a mod on that forum (and I was part of the modding team on the NBA forum at the time), I have to ask... By any chance were you repeatedly calling out these people as cheaters (which is against forum rules)? Other than that, I'd ask you to take a look back at the discussion I was having with <Lucifer> around post #132 if you haven't already.

[Voren]

Originally posted by Neapolitan Mastiff:

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WHY DA HELL SOMEONE THAT DOESN't EVEN PLAY THE GAME CAN BE A FORUM MODERATOR FOR THE GAME ITSELF??


THAT's ABSURDE.

It's not something offensive, but hei, some people here spend like 6-7h per day and even more playing this game, sure they can't be feeling right if THEIR MODERATOR isn't even a player from the game.

And yes , reporting to 2k isn't effective, it's been a known fact since forever basically.

So tell us why we can't at least be free to talk 'tween us how we want, trying at least to advice people where there's "smoke" and they shuld be alert.

Or even just to have a talk.

I feel that's unfair

This dude is right give him a cookie

[llTHEMPIll]

Originally posted by Zeokage:

Originally posted by Kris:

I think they actually do care, just not in the way we'd like them to. I'd imagine there's a pretty large number of people that buy the PC version specifically for the ability to cheat, mod and whatnot. 2K probably fears they're gonna lose money if they stop cheating on PC.

Contacting support is useless, by the way. They are not allowed to speak on the issue of cheaters on PC and they are unable to contact the game developers. Or so they told me. And now 2K is sending in henchmen to censor anything and everything negative being said about the game in a ridiculous attempt to cover up their gross incompetence and money grabbing ways.

What specifically were you asking them when they said they couldn't speak on the issue of cheaters on PC? As for not being able to contact the developers directly, that sounds true.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that I'm here to censor everything negative, though. If that was the case, this thread would have been deleted long ago.

Originally posted by CEliverson:

I made one big post a while ago(2016, 2017?) in the 2K Forum with detailed proofs of people cheating and that the 2K Admins/Employees are not interested to fix it, even with simple tricks how to fix the cheater problem....All I got was a ban on the 2K Forum and the thread Shadow-Deleted. Even after my Reddit post with around 1500 Upvoates and 100.000 Views nothing changed, the only thing 2k was trying was to get it deleted from there.

As a mod on that forum (and I was part of the modding team on the NBA forum at the time), I have to ask... By any chance were you repeatedly calling out these people as cheaters (which is against forum rules)? Other than that, I'd ask you to take a look back at the discussion I was having with <Lucifer> around post #132 if you haven't already.

i dont think its only nba forum you answer all 2k games
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/6mgy22/2k_forums_moderator_warned_me_for_being_too_happy/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/7vkrbg/2k_forums_mod_zeokage_closes_every_nintendo/

[Skiz]

Originally posted by LIKE:

i dont think its only nba forum you answer all 2k games
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/6mgy22/2k_forums_moderator_warned_me_for_being_too_happy/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/7vkrbg/2k_forums_mod_zeokage_closes_every_nintendo/

Holy .. seems like our new Boss has quite a fanbase.

[Zeokage]

Originally posted by LIKE:

i dont think its only nba forum you answer all 2k games
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/6mgy22/2k_forums_moderator_warned_me_for_being_too_happy/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/7vkrbg/2k_forums_mod_zeokage_closes_every_nintendo/

I never said NBA was the only forum I look after over there, but to respond to the apparent accusation based on your choice of links...

The first one was a result of breaking the rules on bad language. Respondents in that thread even speculate it was due to that. There would have been nothing wrong with the person re-posting without the profanity.

The second one is a conspiracy theory based on a fundamental exaggeration. The fact of the matter is that not all threads were closed. One was closed, and duplicates that came afterwards trying to resurrect that particular discussion were subsequently dealt with until things were resolved, which they have been for a while now (one of the threads they link to was closed because the question that was asked had been answered). Took a while though, and multiple threads about that version of the game were open throughout that time period.

Originally posted by Skiz:

Holy .. seems like our new Boss has quite a fanbase.

Yeah, it's strange seeing stuff like that. I admit I'm strict on the rules and that cramps the style of some people, it's already happening here. But people like that rarely actually try to discuss things with me and are open enough to see where I am coming from.

[Voren]

lmao

[Zeokage]

Originally posted by Borden:

This dude is right give him a cookie

Did you read post #4? ;)

[ZenithM]

Good links. You won't find the same stuff about any of the r/nba2K mods.
Well from the tone of the messages you can already tell how it's gonna be. There are mods that just like to be helpful and serve the community by mediating on message boards. And then there are mods that like the role because they just like the little amount of power it confers.

I realize I'm taking a rather adverserial tone straight away myself. But I generally don't like unearned authority.

[Zeokage]

In that case, hopefully in time you'll realise that I do want to be helpful within the community...

Originally posted by ZenithM:

Also the fact that he isn't really a Steam mod (or a Steam user for that matter, just look at his account) tells us that there has been some form of reaching out between Steam and 2K. I don't know in which direction, but if Steam contacted the volunteers on the official 2K forums that's at least shady to me. Obviously the guys on the official 2K forums are going to take 2K's side in any discussion that pits the users and 2K.

Long story short, either Steam or 2K wants to shut down any negative discussion about the game in the forums.

...and that your initial fears will not come to pass. A lot of your speculation has been false, but there's only one way to prove that, and that'll take time. There will probably be instances where I'll play Devil's Advocate and suggest what might be happening from the other side of an argument, but that's all it'll be, speculation in order to help a discussion. I try not to take an actual side unless there's 100% confirmed factual evidence and hopefully you've seen a bit of that in this thread.

As for the lack of gameplay on Steam, my laptop isn't up to the challenge of playing many games, so the games I do own are in anticipation of getting a PC that can...eventually.

I have been moderating on the 2K forums for four years now, and moderated elsewhere for years before that. Friction and disagreements are inevitable and the vast majority of those are based on how the rules are interpreted. If I was doing my job in the wrong way, I would have been told so as I share links like that and confer with my "mod boss" when these things happen.

But as I said earlier, some people just don't like strict enforcement of the rules because they feel restricted and want to be brash, rude and not have to be courteous and respectful when posting on the internet. But these are forums controlled (and owned in the case of the official forums) by a company, negative influences like that won't be allowed to fly.

If you can understand that, then you may be able to understand why the rules are applied the way they are. If there is a disagreement, feel free to discuss it with me via a private message or something.

I'm not here to "save the franchise for the PC players" or words to that effect like Chris Jericho in 1999 in the WWF. I'm just a volunteer, I can't do that. But...as mentioned in the forum rules[forums.2k.com] on the official forums...

The 2K forums host civil discussions on a variety of topics, and we always want to keep the conversation welcoming, inclusive, and a positive experience.

That's what I'm aiming for...