PS4 Bug and generel report

[lucksi]

Christ, where do I start? Version 1.02

Bugs:

If I reset a vehicle with an attachment on it, then get into it again and try to drive off, it gets launched into the sky, never to be able to be resetted again. Only reloading fixes it (only available through closing the game without letting it save)

Jobs from farmers in career mode: None get offered anymore. Did 12 in total, now noone offers me any jobs. Even though I always completed the jobs, the satisfaction meter did not rise except for the tutorial famer. The only job that is still being offered is from the tutorial farmer (whose farm you can buy) but not with your own equipment. Always the same to plow with the tiniest attchment. Advancing time does not help, neither does buying different attachments. Got a tractor and a plow, grubber and seeder. Tried selling everything and buying a harvester and advancing time for days; no jobs

Using the combined grubber/seeder and doing jobs with it: Does not fill up the job completion meter to the end, tried different fields, always not able to fill it even with leaving absolutely nothing ungrubbed/unseeded. Same fields are able to being completed with an attachment that only does either seeding or grubbing.

Harvester with widest combine: Not being able to use as it is too wide to drive anywhere, even getting it off the parking lot was almost impossible as the entrance is not wide enough for it. As you can't hook the combine up in the back for driving around and then later attach it to the front when you reach your field, it is completly useless

Map in general: Why is there always an assortment of crap next to the fields like trees and fences and whatnot? It's like you want to piss off people. Is this "try to raise your attachments and reverse driving simulator"?

Radial menu: Good grief, why? I know I'm old, but I'm not jittery yet. It's an excersize in frustration to always having to lower and or turn on the attachments as the hit boxes for the icons are so tiny and just hard to hit with the stick. If you needed a radial menu, it would only need 4 slots, thats enough for all operations

Autosave: Needs to be able to be turned off. Or give us the option to save in different slots. I've had two corrupted saves this far (either it loads endlessly, or I can neither move, nor open a menu) and now I back up the save everytime I finish a job

This should not have been released in this shape. But thanks, I already didn't preorder from the big companies and this game convinced me to never preorder indies also.

[lucksi]

As for any spelling mistakes, English isn't my mother tongue

[Remco]

Thank you for taking the time to write this down. We’ll check out each item individually, and let you know how we’ll deal with them.

Originally posted by lucksi:

If I reset a vehicle with an attachment on it, then get into it again and try to drive off, it gets launched into the sky, never to be able to be resetted again.

Just to make sure, are you seeing all issues on PS4, or are you playing on PC as well? Could you let me know what combination of vehicle / attachment you had when you saw this issue? Does it happen every time, or just on some occasions?

Jobs from farmers in career mode: None get offered anymore. Did 12 in total, now noone offers me any jobs. Even though I always completed the jobs, the satisfaction meter did not rise except for the tutorial famer. The only job that is still being offered is from the tutorial farmer (whose farm you can buy) but not with your own equipment. Always the same to plow with the tiniest attchment. Advancing time does not help, neither does buying different attachments. Got a tractor and a plow, grubber and seeder. Tried selling everything and buying a harvester and advancing time for days; no jobs

This is obviously a huge problem that we'll try to resolve as quickly as possible. The way jobs work is that fields get monitored for field stats. If they get low enough, the owner of the field will issue a job for you to take care of. Will report back as soon as we know more about this.

Using the combined grubber/seeder and doing jobs with it: Does not fill up the job completion meter to the end, tried different fields, always not able to fill it even with leaving absolutely nothing ungrubbed/unseeded. Same fields are able to being completed with an attachment that only does either seeding or grubbing.

We've found an issue where sowing progression would not fully fill a field. This is currently patched on PC, and a console patch will be issued very shortly.

Harvester with widest combine: Not being able to use as it is too wide to drive anywhere, even getting it off the parking lot was almost impossible as the entrance is not wide enough for it. As you can't hook the combine up in the back for driving around and then later attach it to the front when you reach your field, it is completly useless

Thanks for mentioning this.

Map in general: Why is there always an assortment of crap next to the fields like trees and fences and whatnot? It's like you want to♥♥♥♥♥♥off people. Is this "try to raise your attachments and reverse driving simulator"?

Are there any fields or obstacles that bother you in particular?

Radial menu: Good grief, why? I know I'm old, but I'm not jittery yet. It's an excersize in frustration to always having to lower and or turn on the attachments as the hit boxes for the icons are so tiny and just hard to hit with the stick. If you needed a radial menu, it would only need 4 slots, thats enough for all operations

We'll improve hitboxes for the radial menus, and make sure to explain what the shortkeys are for the different features of the attachments.

Autosave: Needs to be able to be turned off. Or give us the option to save in different slots. I've had two corrupted saves this far (either it loads endlessly, or I can neither move, nor open a menu) and now I back up the save everytime I finish a job

We will most likely turn off autosave for job completion and store purchases at first, and hopefully add a feature to leave it up to the player at a later stage.

If you still have corrupted saves, it would be very useful for us to inspect them, allowing us to see what went wrong. Please let me know if you're willing to send us these files.

[lucksi]

Generally and for the corrupted save: I only play on the PS4, therefore I would not be able to send you a save as they are account specific and I don't have it anymore anyway. Didn't happen again, so that might have been just bad luck (about 12 hours playtime)

resetting vehicles: I'll try that again in a minute, but it happened very often and I didn't write down what attachments were on the tractor, but I had only 3 anyway in career mode.

Jobs: Tried it again on a new save, none get offered after the initial jobs, so the career mode is impossible to finish as there are no means of getting money besides the few first jobs. I also have never been offered a harvesting job (besides the tutorial) even though most fields look ready to harvest. (but you are looking into that as you wrote) It would be good that if you finish a job for plowing/grubbing/seeding, that the field in question gets 100% completed as they do in the tutorial missions. Like the filed looks plowed/grubbed in straight lines and not however drunkenly I drove over it. I get the feeling that that could be part of the problem as when I finish a job to completion, it only says about 90% in the field info and therefore never progresses.

Free mode bugs (as I can't get so far in career mode, but I'll assume they are present there as well)
Can't let a helper do the seeding with the same attachment twice. If I buy a new seeder (or use the one already on the farm at the beggining of free mode), they do the job and once the attachments and the tractors are returned and hooked up again, I do not have the option of hiring a helper with that attachment again. Yes, of course I drove to a different field that is ready to be seeded, just to make clear I'm not missing anything obvious. The seeder can also not be refilled at the seed storage on the farm (yes, I have bought seed) I can sell the seeder and buy a new one, fill it and drive to the same field and then I can let a helper do the job and afterwards that seeder is useless too.

General balancing: Hiring a single helper is more expensive that whatever the field will yield in crops. I paid 4 helpers 2.7k each for plowing, grubbing, seeding and harvesting and made 1.5k from the harvested grain. And I don't mean 1.5k profit. 1.5k for the sale of the grain, meaning a net loss of ~10k for a single field. And that was on easy.

And why can't I buy more than one of any given tractor? In other farming sims I build up a fleet of around 10 tractors that are the same and I never have to worry about what tractor can use what attachment (actually, other sims don't care if the tractor is underpowered for whatever attachment, they'll just be slower; in this game you are told that the tractor can't operate the equipment. Which would be ok, if I could simply buy 10 of the 300 HP tractors, but I can't, so you have the low powered things and if you use helpers, everything gets thrown back to the farm and you have to try to see what tractor can use what attachment again.

I selflishly hope that the jobs thing will get fixed so I can get the platinum as any unfinished game bugs me, but I think that the premature release of the game killed it, as I don't think you'll come back from a negative rating on steam and 1.5 stars on amazon. Which is a damn shame.

[Remco]

Originally posted by lucksi:

Generally and for the corrupted save: I only play on the PS4, therefore I would not be able to send you a save as they are account specific and I don't have it anymore anyway. Didn't happen again, so that might have been just bad luck (about 12 hours playtime)

Got it. Haven't seen save file corruption on PS4 before, so I really hope it is just a case of bad luck. In any case I'm sorry it happened to you. If it does occur more often, please let us know about it.

resetting vehicles: I'll try that again in a minute, but it happened very often and I didn't write down what attachments were on the tractor, but I had only 3 anyway in career mode.

There has been other feedback regarding resetting vehicles, so there are bound to be a few changes to this. Hopefully it will resolve your issue as well.

Jobs: Tried it again on a new save, none get offered after the initial jobs, so the career mode is impossible to finish as there are no means of getting money besides the few first jobs. I also have never been offered a harvesting job (besides the tutorial) even though most fields look ready to harvest. (but you are looking into that as you wrote) It would be good that if you finish a job for plowing/grubbing/seeding, that the field in question gets 100% completed as they do in the tutorial missions. Like the filed looks plowed/grubbed in straight lines and not however drunkenly I drove over it. I get the feeling that that could be part of the problem as when I finish a job to completion, it only says about 90% in the field info and therefore never progresses.

Yes, we're definitely checking all this out. You can count on this being the highest priority for the team.

Free mode bugs (as I can't get so far in career mode, but I'll assume they are present there as well) Can't let a helper do the seeding with the same attachment twice. If I buy a new seeder (or use the one already on the farm at the beggining of free mode), they do the job and once the attachments and the tractors are returned and hooked up again, I do not have the option of hiring a helper with that attachment again. Yes, of course I drove to a different field that is ready to be seeded, just to make clear I'm not missing anything obvious. The seeder can also not be refilled at the seed storage on the farm (yes, I have bought seed) I can sell the seeder and buy a new one, fill it and drive to the same field and then I can let a helper do the job and afterwards that seeder is useless too.

My initial thought would be that the seeder needed to be completely full, but as you mentioned you are unable to refill the seeder. Do you recall what seeder you were using in this case? I've made a note of it, so it will be reviewed either way.

General balancing: Hiring a single helper is more expensive that whatever the field will yield in crops. I paid 4 helpers 2.7k each for plowing, grubbing, seeding and harvesting and made 1.5k from the harvested grain. And I don't mean 1.5k profit. 1.5k for the sale of the grain, meaning a net loss of ~10k for a single field. And that was on easy.

Noted, we'll re-balance worker cost and yield when selling crops.

And why can't I buy more than one of any given tractor? In other farming sims I build up a fleet of around 10 tractors that are the same and I never have to worry about what tractor can use what attachment (actually, other sims don't care if the tractor is underpowered for whatever attachment, they'll just be slower; in this game you are told that the tractor can't operate the equipment. Which would be ok, if I could simply buy 10 of the 300 HP tractors, but I can't, so you have the low powered things and if you use helpers, everything gets thrown back to the farm and you have to try to see what tractor can use what attachment again.

This will be changed to a fixed number of vehicles, instead of a fixed number of the same type of vehicle.

I selflishly hope that the jobs thing will get fixed so I can get the platinum as any unfinished game bugs me, but I think that the premature release of the game killed it, as I don't think you'll come back from a negative rating on steam and 1.5 stars on amazon. Which is a damn shame.

Again, you can count on this being the top priority. I can tell you already invested a lot of time in the game, and we really appreciate all your feedback. Please know that patches on PC will arrive a lot faster than on PS4, because of the review process that needs to take place before releasing a patch on that system. As soon as we know what the e.t.a. will be for the patch, we'll let you know as well.

[lucksi]

I cannot check the seeders until the end of the week, I just have two minor things I forgot:

The radial menu: Please forget what I wrote, it seems the left stick on one of my controllers is a bit wonky. You'd think this would be noticeable in other games, but it wasn't. Played with a different controller yesterday evening and the selection was way better. I would still recomment reducing the radial menu to 8 options down from the 12 it has now for easier selection, but it is playable as it is.

Hiring helpers without actually wanting to hire them: If you have a tractor on a field and it is possible to hire a helper, there are a few things that can happen. For starters, you cannot leave your vehicle with the O button (configuration cannot be changed on PS4) Holding the O button to exit the vehicle still hires the helper.

The next thing is, you always hire the helper if you open the menu and do any action that requires pressing the O button (like closing the menu). This only happens with the big overlay menu (opened with the touchpad) where you see the map, ect, as the game still runs in the background. This does not happen if you open the start menu or the "buying a field" menu as both of those stop the game. This is a minor thing, but I'd recommend fixing it after the important stuff is taken care off

[Remco]

It's actually probably an easy fix, so I'll mention it regardless.

Do you mind if I add you on Steam so we can chat more if questions come up while processing your feedback?

[debotux]

I can confirmed most of the issues on PS4 too ! When can we expect an update ?

[Remco]

Originally posted by debotux:

I can confirmed most of the issues on PS4 too ! When can we expect an update ?

Issuing a patch on PS4 takes a bit more time because of a review process with Microsoft and Sony, because of that, we're not able to give you an exact date yet, but we are trying to get it out as soon as possible.

[debotux]

I hope this will happen quickly because the career mode is just unplayable and for 40 € it's a little abused

[lucksi]

Report about the 1.03 update:

Jobs are now offered and all jobs can be completed (even a harvesting job was offered, although extremely seldomly (once aside from the tutorial)

Stuff that still needs fixing: When getting out of a vehicle with attachment (doesn't matter which one) for example at a job board, the attachment very often bugs out and as soon as you get back into the tractor, the tractor gets thrown onto the front wheels so that it stands at 90°. Basically it is balanced on the nose/hood. This does not happen if you detach the attachment before exiting (which is what I did after I had to reset the tractor and attachment too often)

Buying the farm, paying off the credit: Don't know if that's a bug or the mission description is just wrong: Playing on easy: After the tutorial, you have the mission of earning enough to buy the farm and I think it said to have 1 million in cash. When I had 350k, I automatically bought the farm and the 350k was deducted and the next mission was to pay off the additional 1 million of debt that I should have had. However, I only had the 200k of debt that I had in the first place. When I paid the 200k of debt, the next mission goal was revealed to have 2 million in cash.

Again, that was on easy, don't know if the text for the mission is simply wrong or that was a bug in my favour. So all in all, I paid only 350k for the farm and got no additional debt.

@Remco: Adding me on steam is not helpful as I very rarely use it. If I use it at all, then not logged in via a webbrowser.

Got the platinum, so I'm happy.

[Remco]

Originally posted by lucksi:

Report about the 1.03 update:

Jobs are now offered and all jobs can be completed (even a harvesting job was offered, although extremely seldomly (once aside from the tutorial)

Stuff that still needs fixing: When getting out of a vehicle with attachment (doesn't matter which one) for example at a job board, the attachment very often bugs out and as soon as you get back into the tractor, the tractor gets thrown onto the front wheels so that it stands at 90°. Basically it is balanced on the nose/hood. This does not happen if you detach the attachment before exiting (which is what I did after I had to reset the tractor and attachment too often)

Buying the farm, paying off the credit: Don't know if that's a bug or the mission description is just wrong: Playing on easy: After the tutorial, you have the mission of earning enough to buy the farm and I think it said to have 1 million in cash. When I had 350k, I automatically bought the farm and the 350k was deducted and the next mission was to pay off the additional 1 million of debt that I should have had. However, I only had the 200k of debt that I had in the first place. When I paid the 200k of debt, the next mission goal was revealed to have 2 million in cash.

Again, that was on easy, don't know if the text for the mission is simply wrong or that was a bug in my favour. So all in all, I paid only 350k for the farm and got no additional debt.

@Remco: Adding me on steam is not helpful as I very rarely use it. If I use it at all, then not logged in via a webbrowser.

Got the platinum, so I'm happy.

The issue you mention about the vehicles getting into a weird position has been fixed in the most recent PC build, so that will make it to the next patch on consoles.

We decided to lower the price of the farm, but we'll make sure the adjust the messages that relate to the debt amounts that your see beyond finishing that mission with a next update.

If you run into anything else, make sure to let us know :-)

[LimpopoSteve]

My realfarm on PS4 bugs:
1) I have only basic jobs. I have no harvest or seed jobs
2) my tank are filled with manure. No matter how many times i clean manure from pigs or sheeps it is always 5000
3) My fields are not growing. 15 days passed from the moment i have planted two fields and nothing!