Spoiler with Bluud and Eustiche

[thefollowingcharacters]

It doesn't take long to realize Eustiche REALLY wants Elric's wife. Let me tell you this now, the devs REALLY want you to have her cheat on Elric. You can reject him every time, but the Two times you think agreeing with him is reasonable in a non-sexual manner, Bluud's pants drop faster then a bullet.

You will have no choice but to watch the silliness unfold. Kind of dissapointed as the game seems to give you fair warnings before something like that, but MAN, the devs just REALLY want you to have Bluud cheat on Elric.

[tiamats4esgares]

I literally had no problem with Blod "keeping her pants on" and got through all of Eustache's scenes, so maybe it's just you? You probably wanted to see that.

That said, it IS quite annoying how much people's dislike for each other changes so willy-nilly and you have no control over it. Compared to a game like Fire Emblem where you 100% control who likes who, it's particularly irritating. But I'd expect to have at least SOME decision making.

[thefollowingcharacters]

Nope tiamats, never did want to see it. Not a fan of cheating in real life, and don't find it erotic or romantic, but shameful.

All I ever agreed with Eustache was on him killing the man who stole her fruit, and the first cave scene, which struck me as a treasure opportunity. You two go in there, Bluud kills a bear, Eus says you're meant for more than the home life, that's it.

The next scene is BOOM, Bluud automatically meets him in a cave at night, gets her cheat on with the lier and thief, then she has an option to feel regreatful or not. Its pretty left field after having the opportunity to stop the Kari/ wild girl romance.

Also, next time before accusing someone of intentionally wanting something they clearly told you they didn't, why not ask them what they did? You didn't know how the affair steps were triggered, so you had zero basis to judge with. Intentional or not, your words made it sound personal, which is a silly thing over a video game.

[tiamats4esgares]

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Nope tiamats, never did want to see it. Not a fan of cheating in real life, and don't find it erotic or romantic, but shameful.

All I ever agreed with Eustache was on him killing the man who stole her fruit, and the first cave scene, which struck me as a treasure opportunity. You two go in there, Bluud kills a bear, Eus says you're meant for more than the home life, that's it.

The next scene is BOOM, Bluud automatically meets him in a cave at night, gets her cheat on with the lier and thief, then she has an option to feel regreatful or not. Its pretty left field after having the opportunity to stop the Kari/ wild girl romance.

Also, next time before accusing someone of intentionally wanting something they clearly told you they didn't, why not ask them what they did? You didn't know how the affair steps were triggered, so you had zero basis to judge with. Intentional or not, your words made it sound personal, which is a silly thing over a video game.

I find it a bit silly you are so offended by text in a video game, but that's neither here nor there.

I thought that option was clearly flirting so I didn't take it. I was #teameirik the whole time myself.

By you didn't like the Kari/Shanaw romanace? Clearly a closeted male homosexual.

[76561188078797539]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von thefollowingcharacters:

All I ever agreed with Eustache was on him killing the man who stole her fruit, and the first cave scene, which struck me as a treasure opportunity. You two go in there, Bluud kills a bear, Eus says you're meant for more than the home life, that's it.

The next scene is BOOM, Bluud automatically meets him in a cave at night, gets her cheat on with the lier and thief, then she has an option to feel regreatful or not. Its pretty left field after having the opportunity to stop the Kari/ wild girl romance.

I think this is because (to the best of my understanding of implementation), the game uses "toggles" that aren't tiered in terms of "relationship" simulation.

Basically it's a binary choice at one point, rather than a granular implementation of potential outcomes. Presumably because it's much easier to do it that way.

I don't like it either. Another case of it is Eirik/Parvaneh. Last time I had the useless mounth in my camp, you could blow her advances on Eirik every time, but if you picked the wrong LAST option suddenly you were the one and only true love. Blodeuwedd who?

Ursprünglich geschrieben von tiamats4esgares:

By you didn't like the Kari/Shanaw romanace? Clearly a closeted male homosexual.

That was really uncalled for.

[Remiel]

I liked that you have to earn keeping Eirik and Blod together. The black monk was useful but I hated seeing him hitting on Blod. I allowed her to tease him a bit because she was stressed up but I never ever let him kiss her or anything.
I had the bad idea of recruiting the Persian girl (the merchant was awesome and his relationship with Moira was great). I hated her so much... but I liked her motivations and as a character she made sense. Seeing Eirik in shock was funny but again I always stopped him before doing anything. Once a figure in the darkness stabbed him: I believe it was her.

The scene that justifies it all: the black monk was caught stealing (putting people's survival at risk just so he can keep his lifestyle), the party decides he's getting expelled (and everyone knows he'll die outside on his own). Eustache protests and deeply upset yells to Blod "I'm only leaving if you say so. Say so!" Blod (tear running down her face): "you have to leave :'( ". And he violently leaves, never to return. AWESOME.

I liked the relationship with Shanaw but I was surprised in a bad way when I saw Angelico hitting on Kira after that.

[hydrosphere13]

Can someone upload the Blod and Eus romance? I rarely make it past day 70 due to crappy rng.

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Yea, i know this is going necro but it really bothered me as well. I constantly rejected Eustache with blod but she ends up cheating anyway unless you kicking him out of camp. Even Gudrun says to leave Eirick. Do the devs want Blod to cheat? This is that canonical series of events?

As for getting upset about it, it makes sense IMO. We play this game and get invested in the characters, their fictional lives and we literally deal with their struggle to survive. Then when they do something that is out of our control, when it is suppose to be in our control, it doesn't make you feel good.

Its almost like Blod cheats on you, as the player, because she did something you may not have wanted her to do.

[Tolkien Book Fan]

I suppose that would explain why Blodeuwedd doesn't get negative traits for cheating on her marriage, unlike Eirik: the cheating is mandated by the game's story, and all you get to choose is whether Blodeuwedd leaves Eirik or not. I will have to try this out next time I recruit Eustache for the long term. (Stealing rope right before the tribute when I want space to recruit Tomoe? Not good for the Frenchman's life expectancy.)

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Yea basically I keep him around till the picknick scene and constantly reject him, or if I catch him stealing then he is gone, netting extra 8 prepared meals. Just feels weird that Blod is suppose to cheat and there is nothing that can be done. I do wonder if i continue playing if Blod will tell Eirik and he will kill Eustache.

EDIT: Yea, its beyond ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up or an oversight that Eirik cheating gives him a plethora of negative traits but Blod goes oh oops, and gets +20 relationship towards Eirik. Like wtf.

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EDIT: Yea, its beyond ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up or an oversight that Eirik cheating gives him a plethora of negative traits but Blod goes oh oops, and gets +20 relationship towards Eirik. Like wtf.

If nothing else, there should be a massive hit to Blode's relationship with Kari.

She's very much a daddy's daughter. To have "mom" cheat on somebody she idolizes with no consequence is definitely a major oversight.

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

I agree. Kari would hate her mother for years in reality.

EDIT: I think the devs have a collective cuck fetish. Its the only explanation IMO

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Upate 1.1 put this in.

Added a check so that Eustache and Blodeuwedd's romance won't go to the final level if the player rebuked Eustache at every occasion.

Just lol, the devs still want Blod to cheat. You must reject him at EVERY conversation.


"Tell me about your family..."

*10 days later*

"Even though I rebuked everytime, that story about your family means i'll have sex with you now in the cave."

[Lord Knightmarez]

Did anyone else get the option to have sex with the Strong Woman, one of the fingers, of bjorn? She said '' you're strong! wanna ♥♥♥♥?" to the husband on my playthrough. He was my strongest charactor so that's why i sent him against her.

[Morpeheus]

Spoilers.

I liked his loot bonus
I didn't like his high depression gains
I made him a great forester
I didn't like his raised attention to Blodeuwedd
He was gaining levels very slow
He stole stuff. I caught him and let him stay
He wanted to get Blodeuwedd, she refused
We lived through much together, but I could never trust him
Maybe I allowed him make too many gifts to Blodeuwedd, but one night he ripped her clothes off and she gave in
The next morning I banished him from the camp
He cried, gave 4 dried meat and begged to let him stay
Eirik was unrelenting. Eustache said he wanted Blodeuwedd to say it
She said he had to leave
He looked really sad, but said adieu
Soon he died in the forests

The hardest thing would be to eat that dried meat, sooner or later

...

Not sure why did I get so emotional, but his contradicting personality felt very real. A man of freedom, with no laws to abide to - he was sometimes disgusting, other times fiery and alive. I didn't want him to die - he was the first character I ever banished, and I didn't realize the consequences.

It is probably relatively fair for the devs to treat us this way. It leaves some scars, some experience. We can't control everything in life. If anything...

[iggy1eco]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Morpeheus:

Spoilers.

I liked his loot bonus
I didn't like his high depression gains
I made him a great forester
I didn't like his raised attention to Blodeuwedd
He was gaining levels very slow
He stole stuff. I caught him and let him stay
He wanted to get Blodeuwedd, she refused
We lived through much together, but I could never trust him
Maybe I allowed him make too many gifts to Blodeuwedd, but one night he ripped her clothes off and she gave in
The next morning I banished him from the camp
He cried, gave 4 dried meat and begged to let him stay
Eirik was unrelenting. Eustache said he wanted Blodeuwedd to say it
She said he had to leave
He looked really sad, but said adieu
Soon he died in the forests

The hardest thing would be to eat that dried meat, sooner or later

...

Not sure why did I get so emotional, but his contradicting personality felt very real. A man of freedom, with no laws to abide to - he was sometimes disgusting, other times fiery and alive. I didn't want him to die - he was the first character I ever banished, and I didn't realize the consequences.

It is probably relatively fair for the devs to treat us this way. It leaves some scars, some experience. We can't control everything in life. If anything...

Had to stop playing for a bit after this. I only accepted one advance because it smelled useful loot, refused every other single advance...she still did it. I didn't feel good lol and can't look that character the same way at all. I'm hoping Erik discovers, but I doubt he will and only makes it worse.