Arnhem map /campaign?

[crackz12]

Hi,all.

as the title says,i wonder if we will see something around Arnhem either map/campaign

[acur1231]

Lots of speculation on the next game/update, but I don't think it will be Arnhem, simply because it was a much smaller operation than the Battle of Normandy, and thus there are fewer divisions. Less men involved, hugely reduced casualties and the confused nature of the fighting does not lend itself well to this game and its phases and spawn system.

[crackz12]

yes,you could be right...Ardennes could be a possibility though? ticks a lot of the boxes:)

[Chief Berto]

Italy 44 does

[meanderthal]

Originally posted by Chief Berto:

Italy 44 does

Italy would be my choice too, though it's hard to see that Italian divisions would be included in game since Italy capitulated on day 1 of the mainland invasion.

Desert campaign ?
Fall of France ?
Far East (Burma/Singapore/Pacific Islands) ?

and not forgetting the vast possibilities of the Eastern Front ?

[b4ry]

39' and 40'!

[CheeseMerchant]

Originally posted by meanderthal:

Originally posted by Chief Berto:

Italy 44 does

Italy would be my choice too, though it's hard to see that Italian divisions would be included in game since Italy capitulated on day 1 of the mainland invasion.

Desert campaign ?
Fall of France ?
Far East (Burma/Singapore/Pacific Islands) ?

and not forgetting the vast possibilities of the Eastern Front ?

I believe you still had a couple of italian divisions fighting for the germans after the capitulation of the italian governement . 1 thing i know for sure is that you had a lot of german divisions with Italian volunteers in them. The biggest problem with an italian theatre for this game is that alot of the italian landscape consists of hilly terrain. so that means that the line of sight mechanic in this game really needs to be updated to include elevation in the terrain.

An eastern front steel division requires it,s own entire game. this because the fighting at the eastern front happened in an entirely different way and scale.

fall of france is also a great idea. it would be fun fighting with the germans against a for the most part technologically superior allied force in the 1940,s.

[meanderthal]

Originally posted by Pvt. Eijk 29ID:

Originally posted by meanderthal:

Italy would be my choice too, though it's hard to see that Italian divisions would be included in game since Italy capitulated on day 1 of the mainland invasion.

Desert campaign ?
Fall of France ?
Far East (Burma/Singapore/Pacific Islands) ?

and not forgetting the vast possibilities of the Eastern Front ?

I believe you still had a couple of italian divisions fighting for the germans after the capitulation of the italian governement . 1 thing i know for sure is that you had a lot of german divisions with Italian volunteers in them. The biggest problem with an italian theatre for this game is that alot of the italian landscape consists of hilly terrain. so that means that the line of sight mechanic in this game really needs to be updated to include elevation in the terrain.

An eastern front steel division requires it,s own entire game. this because the fighting at the eastern front happened in an entirely different way and scale.

fall of france is also a great idea. it would be fun fighting with the germans against a for the most part technologically superior allied force in the 1940,s.

Yes indeed a few scattered units continued to fight on despite the surrender order and i totally agree the topographical terrain would be a challenge to overcome especially the LOS tool.

Not so sure about the vastness and scale of the Eastern front conflict is such a big problem.
The force sizes currently in use in SD are barely skirmish level sized compared to the real battles.
A bigger challenge would be how to integrate the organisation of the Russian units involved.

Russia relied heavily on brigades not divisions in area's such as Armour/artillery etc but this is not a major problem.

On the plus side, many of the units used in game on the Axix side are already modelled so only a few skins and armoured vehicles would be needed thus lessening the developer workload.

[Chief Berto]

As far as the units for the Soviet forces i believe their Corps were basically divisional size (bigger but comparable)

[acur1231]

Not sure if Italy will work well with the heights of our maps at present. Look at Hill 112 and Mont Ormel. I would love Burma, but how would the gameplay work? Lots of infantry in forests. The British have better, the Japanese have more? And given that the tank situation is Mathilda vs Chi Ha, that may not be entirely fair for the Japanese.

[Chief Berto]

I dunno if the British would have better infantry, youd give Japanese leader units' aura make units immune to suppression, they'd just fight to the death, some infantry could have a knee mortar, which would wreck in SD. I dunno throw some sappers in there and the 6th AB might be in some town trouble...

[meanderthal]

Originally posted by acur1231:

Not sure if Italy will work well with the heights of our maps at present. Look at Hill 112 and Mont Ormel. I would love Burma, but how would the gameplay work? Lots of infantry in forests. The British have better, the Japanese have more? And given that the tank situation is Mathilda vs Chi Ha, that may not be entirely fair for the Japanese.

Not just Matilda's but M3 Lee medium tanks, Sherman 111's, Stuart tank variants not to mention the Priest 105 SPG and a variety of Armoured Cars.

On Allied side there is a rich diversity of Infantry types including Chindits, African, Indian, Chinese and even units of Indiginous Karen, Akha, H'mong, Loi, Paluang Hilltribesmen who made excellent recon scouts apparently.

The Japanese could also theoretically field Korean/Burmese and possibly Thai troops although they would be very similarly equipped to the Japanese troops.

[Superwashandje]

Originally posted by acur1231:

Lots of speculation on the next game/update, but I don't think it will be Arnhem, simply because it was a much smaller operation than the Battle of Normandy, and thus there are fewer divisions. Less men involved, hugely reduced casualties and the confused nature of the fighting does not lend itself well to this game and its phases and spawn system.

maybe, just an arnhem/surrounding map (pack) would be nice though. dont even need/want new divisions for it :)

[Wabbit]

What ever happens Steel Division must have Japanese troops on Bicylces riding to the front. I will not countenance any new SD game without this. Add anything else I dont care but I demand Bicycle division!!! Hell why not call it "Bicycle Division '41 Road to Singapore"?

BD'41 cooool

You think I'm joking, Supply trucks could be Tuk tuks/Rickshaws with spare puncture repair kits. If you dont get all het up by your units screaming BANZAI!!! then you're not capable of emotion.

Just imagine the down hill speed alone will crush the British Spirit! No wonder Percival surrendered. Go go BMX Banzias!!!

oh go on!

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[b4ry]

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[Wabbit]

Originally posted by b4ry:

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#CheaperFrenchCheese
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