How to kill Konigstiger?

[Cynec]

Not a whine thread, genuinely curious. A 17 pounder has a zero percent chance to penatrate from the front at range. I called in a Typoon and an offmap on it, and it just sat there and took it. It then killed my 17 pounder crew with HE shells and all of tanks as well. I understand that its side armor is much weaker, but how do you kill it if the player is smart and keeps it at range and facing you?

[IceWord]

Just panick it,and they will flee like a stupid mofo while exposing its side or worse rear.

[Lukas Alexander]

17 pounder isn't designed to open fight with Konigstiger. There is no unit designed to do this.

It's the same way as for Panthers and Tigers. You can bombard them first, stun crew, smoke assisting units. You need to lure him into a trap. AT guns shouldn't be placed in bushes just after reaching battlefield. You could store them just behind hedgegrow and push into action in right moment.

I've killed King Tiger assisted with Panthers in that way:

First bombard them with artillery. Next smoke what's behind him to cut-off his recon units field of view. Next bombard them with bombers and rocket planes (few in a row). Next pushing 17 pdrs from two different directions- from front and side. In the meantime Wolverines (tank destroyers) coming to hit from both sided. Shermans providing distraction in false flank maneuver.

[Gudabeg]

Sounds good. My strategy is to hammer them with 6+ Arty pieces (2nd Inf Division) and just keep them away.

It works decently (but I never kill them).

Thanks for the tip! Hopefully I can now start killing them.

[Magni]

As others said, don't fight it openly. Try to strip away the infantry, recon etc. protecting it, then sneak up to get shots from close distance or from a flank. Keep it supressed as much as possible. If you get really ballsy and managed to isolate it, you can even go for a capture. Generally, remain realistic. A King Tier can shut down an area and be hard to kill, but it can be shut down with artillery or plain bypassed. Killing it generally isn't all that likely unless your opponent makes mistakes, but you don't need to kill it to minimise the impact it has on the overall situation.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by Cynec:

Not a whine thread, genuinely curious. A 17 pounder has a zero percent chance to penatrate from the front at range. I called in a Typoon and an offmap on it, and it just sat there and took it. It then killed my 17 pounder crew with HE shells and all of tanks as well. I understand that its side armor is much weaker, but how do you kill it if the player is smart and keeps it at range and facing you?

You have to hit it with rockets or bombs, or artillery spam, in order to make it panic. Do so repeatedly, so that it can't be a major threat, as you move forces into a flanking position. If it is in an open field and you cannot fight it straight-on, hide your forces and force it to come to you.

I've killed a King Tiger by having a teammate bomb it repeatedly, and then advancing on it with two M10 tank destroyers who had enough repeated shots to keep it pinned, and eventually penetrate the armor. If you can't prevent it from shooting however, it's better to simply hide your forces from it.

Fighting it in the open, frontally, is the worst possible idea. Given how expensive King Tigers are though, you can usually just hide your forces around it and just attack from other angles.

Suppress it, and only attack it if you can manage to get forces into an ambush position. Never attempt to fight it head-on with other vehicles, unless you are close enough to penetrate its armor with a good Allied tank - and it is also suppressed, so it can't just one-shot all of your vehicles.

[Intlander]

Originally posted by Lukas Alexander:

17 pounder isn't designed to open fight with Konigstiger. There is no unit designed to do this.

It's the same way as for Panthers and Tigers. You can bombard them first, stun crew, smoke assisting units. You need to lure him into a trap. AT guns shouldn't be placed in bushes just after reaching battlefield. You could store them just behind hedgegrow and push into action in right moment.

I've killed King Tiger assisted with Panthers in that way:

First bombard them with artillery. Next smoke what's behind him to cut-off his recon units field of view. Next bombard them with bombers and rocket planes (few in a row). Next pushing 17 pdrs from two different directions- from front and side. In the meantime Wolverines (tank destroyers) coming to hit from both sided. Shermans providing distraction in false flank maneuver.

You're using an entire army to take out a King Tiger, it doesn't happen in game. Usually you have only 1-2 tanks and not much artillery to kill it.

[Thodin]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=939180012

Like he said. Combined arms.

Suppress them and move in your 17pd guns to snipe them. Achilles, Firefly, AT guns.

[JimmyBeans]

King Tigers are like Superman and like Superman they have one weakness, solid Stalinium. Unforuntely the Russians weren't at DDay so you just need to throw as many bombs and planes at them as you can until they decide the front lines are a bit too dangerous for their taste and move back.

[Magni]

Originally posted by George W. Bush Gerardo :

You're using an entire army to take out a King Tiger, it doesn't happen in game. Usually you have only 1-2 tanks and not much artillery to kill it.

It's 380 points for a KT. 380 points buys you a hella respectable combined-arms force.

[Lukas Alexander]

Originally posted by George W. Bush Gerardo :

You're using an entire army to take out a King Tiger, it doesn't happen in game. Usually you have only 1-2 tanks and not much artillery to kill it.

You have two tanks and some artillery in middle of Phase C? Save your forces and not throw them recklessly at the enemy during first, two phases.

[MrUnimport]

Conversely, press your advantage while your opponent is banking 380 pts for a wunderwaffe that stuns like any other tank.