Steel Division: Normandy 44

Steel Division: Normandy 44

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Stuart takes out 2 Tigers and 1 Panther. Good job.
Good job, devs. Good job.
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Historic accurate german tanks were outmatched 10 to 1. Allies had air superiority. So every demand of historic accurate values of armor or pen. have to include this fact. Or its same way wrong as the dev team try to make a game playable for axis and allied with almost same chance to win.
hzh 2017年5月25日 13時28分 
I believe OP. Played enough skirmishes to know that, and that if i go online i would just always choose the allies side... This bias in a historical game is really hurting the game.
Pbever 2017年5月25日 13時28分 
Only way for this to happen would be poor micromanagement or something else severely stunned your units. Don't blame the game for your mistakes.
Wilh 2017年5月25日 13時47分 
This is a learn to play issue, i would really like to see a replay of this :P
The only way a Stuart could kill a Tiger or a Panther is from point blank range or from a flanking shot and even then on a Tiger you'd have to either be at close range or be pretty lucky. Just about any really close range tank fight is going to be a coin toss, and from the sound of it you sent them at it one by one because there's no way 2 Tigers and a Panther all kept missing at close range for long enough for the Stuart to take them out. Unless they were suppressed first but even then it's your fault for bunching them up and letting them get that close to enemy armor. Tigers and Panthers can't be beat at long range and that's where you should keep them.
Pbever の投稿を引用:
Only way for this to happen would be poor micromanagement or something else severely stunned your units. Don't blame the game for your mistakes.

You can see something similar to OP's claims happening at 2:30 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16gWRxv_aZY

The M5 stuart would not have been able to penetrate the Tiger II's side armour, even at point blank with the strongest ammunition available (APC M51). The 37 mm M3 would have been a very weak anti-tank gun at this stage of the war.
Magni 2017年5月25日 15時27分 
Igel の投稿を引用:

I could not agree more !!!!!

And by doing so demonstrate your ignorance. Wait, actually, let me take that back. Ignorance would merely imply that you know nothing. When in actuality, you know literally *less than nothing*, given that what you "know" is actually a bunch of History Channel wehraboo nonsense.

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Pbever の投稿を引用:
Only way for this to happen would be poor micromanagement or something else severely stunned your units. Don't blame the game for your mistakes.

You can see something similar to OP's claims happening at 2:30 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16gWRxv_aZY

The M5 stuart would not have been able to penetrate the Tiger II's side armour, even at point blank with the strongest ammunition available (APC M51). The 37 mm M3 would have been a very weak anti-tank gun at this stage of the war.

Tiger 2 had the same amount of side armor as Tiger I. M51 APCBC would in fact go through that at point blank range on a square-on hit, or at a minimum cause a partial penetration with significant spalling.

People still have this delusion that heavy armor should make a tank invincible against all AT threats, when it in actuality just narrows down the range at which it can be engaged effectively by AT.
KillSlim の投稿を引用:
Pbever の投稿を引用:
Only way for this to happen would be poor micromanagement or something else severely stunned your units. Don't blame the game for your mistakes.

You can see something similar to OP's claims happening at 2:30 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16gWRxv_aZY

The M5 stuart would not have been able to penetrate the Tiger II's side armour, even at point blank with the strongest ammunition available (APC M51). The 37 mm M3 would have been a very weak anti-tank gun at this stage of the war.

Think OP is talking about the Tiger I so fair game for a Stuart from the sides, and thanks for showing me that Youtuber, ♥♥♥♥♥ funny as ♥♥♥♥
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Hauggy 2017年5月25日 15時48分 
Ahaha that video was the best answer possible to that BS post!
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Jordan の投稿を引用:
Neither Panthers nor Tigers...
Thanks for correcting me, I did do about 10 minutes of research before responding, because my understanding was that the tanks were difficult to damage, but not impossible. I guess I missed some vital information. I appreciate you doing it in a respectful way. I think the way I worded my post may be misleading, I certainally dont think the 75mm on the M4 (insert variant here) Sherman was not capable to doing damage, just needed to be close and have a clean shot. I'm a little biased cause I play Flames of War too, and my Mid-War tunisia 7th Armored brits have a good deal of trouble killing Tigers, unless I can lure them into my 17/25 pdr towed guns. :P

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Jordan の投稿を引用:
No need to be disrespectful Phil, 50mm is a lot of armor in respect to talking about a Stuart, I'm not suggesting that they're supposed to invincible. Merely that unless circumstances were perfect they were tough to put a dent in. (Without the proper AT equipment) Though I remember reading an entertaining factoid about how unreliable and overengineered the german armor was, something like for every 1 panther that was battle ready there were 5 that broke down. Or maybe that was the Jagdtiger. Either way, thanks for correcting me though I can't say it was effective since you devolved to an ad-hominem.
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The Wehrboos need to remember that anything that hits tank can kill it, spall, fire, shock damage etc etc. They become so focused on pen even though it sometimes does not matter. All I have to say is that that Stuart did well.
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