I just finished the game and im not satisfied with the ending. (spoiler warning)

[Sand]

if what Tsumugi said is really true, then doesnt that mean all the previous games were just acts? it doesnt make sense. i didnt like the ending at all.

[Tyger]

DRV3 has my favorite ending out of all of the games imo... I know I'm in the minority for that, but I just love how meta it is. Everything kinda comes together in a way.

[Sergeant Poultry]

Publicado originalmente por MagicalTyger:

DRV3 has my favorite ending out of all of the games imo... I know I'm in the minority for that, but I just love how meta it is. Everything kinda comes together in a way.

Same here, I actually really enjoyed the ending. I think it was done really well on an intellectual level, but a lot of the fandom didn't like it on the emotional level.

[Symbol VI: DynastyScans]

Publicado originalmente por SandwichCat:

if what Tsumugi said is really true, then doesnt that mean all the previous games were just acts? it doesnt make sense. i didnt like the ending at all.

no it literally says that it doesnt matter if its fiction or not cus what you experienced was still real to you

that ♥♥♥♥ was already fiction before v3 existed theyre games its not like tsumugi saying it changes anything

[Zebarnumaldax]

I finished the game today and i absolutely love the ending, my mind was completely blown and i totaly didnt expected it (but hints on this ending were in case 5, at some point i got a feeling "watcher" Kokichi is talking about is "real" me)
My favorite character was obviously Kokichi and my favorite case was obviously 5th
Iv heard a claims from devs saying it was separate universe, but everybody lies, so i wont belive it :D

Now lets mark few things regardles of ending:
4th wall: You (the player) in this game is also a fictional character. When game adresses You in final trial she is talking to the audience inside V3 universe, when You make decision for Kibo, You still a part of that audience, thus you belong to that universe, generally speaking the game does not break 4th wall, it drags You inside it and makes a faceless charater.

Whenever the D1 and D2 really happened in that universe: to answer that question we need to understand one thing: is the book in Kokichi's lab real or not? Frankly speaking it can be either way but i still belive that book is real and was not the part of Tsumugi's plan.
First of all there was no plan to involve whole Hope's Peak stuff untill chapter5, the whole Junko stuff was forced by Kokichi's bluff.
Secondly the acces to Kokichi's lab was opened by accident (Kibo going out of control) she could not predict or prepare to it becase it happened right after 5th trial
So my conclusion: The Book is real, which means those events really happened.

About the cosplox: Tsumugi is brainwashed for sure, thats why she also remembers thing diffirently, also, she was under effect of those flashlights just like the others, so her perception of reality is mixed and her beliefs are also affected by that. And those 'beliefs' is what controls cosplox, if she knows she is cosplaying real person it will strike, if she thinks its fictional, then it wont.

The only question i cant explain to myself is the audience. If this ♥♥♥♥ is illegal then why would audience play along with Shuichi? If this ♥♥♥♥ is legal and broadcasted worldwide: why would ppl allow it? I know the reasoning Tsumugi gave but it feels to iffy for me "i dont buy it" the only way this ♥♥♥♥ is legal it is if that Most Aweful etc event happened again and transformed the world yet again, or maybe it is just a part of this world which still corrupted and the real fight is still going on during events of this game.

And on a final note regardless the ending:
When D1 endedi though to myself "nice..the survived its a happy ending'
When D2 ended i was like "well, technically they all survived, so it is a happy ending"
And during last minutes of V3 last trial i thought to myself "lookslike they all gonna die..but for some reason i feel like it is a happy ending with no survivors"
10/10

[Sergeant Poultry]

Publicado originalmente por Zebarnumaldax:

I finished the game today and i absolutely love the ending, my mind was completely blown and i totaly didnt expected it (but hints on this ending were in case 5, at some point i got a feeling "watcher" Kokichi is talking about is "real" me)
My favorite character was obviously Kokichi and my favorite case was obviously 5th
Iv heard a claims from devs saying it was separate universe, but everybody lies, so i wont belive it :D

Now lets mark few things regardles of ending:
4th wall: You (the player) in this game is also a fictional character. When game adresses You in final trial she is talking to the audience inside V3 universe, when You make decision for Kibo, You still a part of that audience, thus you belong to that universe, generally speaking the game does not break 4th wall, it drags You inside it and makes a faceless charater.

Whenever the D1 and D2 really happened in that universe: to answer that question we need to understand one thing: is the book in Kokichi's lab real or not? Frankly speaking it can be either way but i still belive that book is real and was not the part of Tsumugi's plan.
First of all there was no plan to involve whole Hope's Peak stuff untill chapter5, the whole Junko stuff was forced by Kokichi's bluff.
Secondly the acces to Kokichi's lab was opened by accident (Kibo going out of control) she could not predict or prepare to it becase it happened right after 5th trial
So my conclusion: The Book is real, which means those events really happened.

About the cosplox: Tsumugi is brainwashed for sure, thats why she also remembers thing diffirently, also, she was under effect of those flashlights just like the others, so her perception of reality is mixed and her beliefs are also affected by that. And those 'beliefs' is what controls cosplox, if she knows she is cosplaying real person it will strike, if she thinks its fictional, then it wont.

The only question i cant explain to myself is the audience. If this ♥♥♥♥ is illegal then why would audience play along with Shuichi? If this ♥♥♥♥ is legal and broadcasted worldwide: why would ppl allow it? I know the reasoning Tsumugi gave but it feels to iffy for me "i dont buy it" the only way this ♥♥♥♥ is legal it is if that Most Aweful etc event happened again and transformed the world yet again, or maybe it is just a part of this world which still corrupted and the real fight is still going on during events of this game.

And on a final note regardless the ending:
When D1 endedi though to myself "nice..the survived its a happy ending'
When D2 ended i was like "well, technically they all survived, so it is a happy ending"
And during last minutes of V3 last trial i thought to myself "lookslike they all gonna die..but for some reason i feel like it is a happy ending with no survivors"
10/10

Just one thing to note about your cospox explanation: I don't really buy that explanation as Tsumugi knew she was the mastermind, which meant in turn that she knew the true meaning of the killing game. Otherwise, Rantaro's murder would never have happened. This is especially true since she showed the cospox after Rantaro's death. One could make the argument that it was revealed to her with the Flashback light or some other method that she was the mastermind (but still withholding the fact it was a tv show) and she found out later that it was all staged, but that to me also isn't really viable either, as there would be benefit in retaining that info from her only to give it back later. With all the character changing shenanigans going on in the final chapter, I think its fair to say that she simply cosplayed as Kaede with cospox. Kaede would have been fictional, and I'm guessing all the clothes flying in the final chapter would have been for theatrics more than anything. Otherwise, it's nice to see someone else who enjoyed V3's ending.

[Kernist]

I played Danganronpa 2 again after V3 and only now I realized how huge gap of quality between these two is. The only thing V3 has better is minigames. because ♥♥♥♥ improved Hangman's Gambit in 2. Story, ending, characters, events, everything was better in Danganronpa 2. I feel like V3 tried to be like DDLC or Undertale regarding messing with the player itself, but they failed miserably.

[jcdenton666]

well they made this ♥♥♥♥ up as they went, and I realised already after the end of the first game that the ultimate end would be plain ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because the end of the first game didn't give you ANY info on what was actually going on. confer: Zero Escape, a trilogy with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ending where the first game's ending doesn't give you ANY info on what is actually going on. (only difference is that 999 actually was a satisfying and fun game...)
PS: I regret ever wasting my time on Danganronpa, and I'm not gonna 100% em either, as they aren't even good enough to spend the (unreasonable) effort on. and how is that end not completely stolen from the Truman show either... disgusting
PS2: I'd like to see the developers of the minigames subjected to executions. I'm not kidding. I want them all wiped off the face of the earth.
PS3: even without the ending, and the minigames, this would still be a 1/10 cause it is 100% linear and made me choose SO MUCH ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CHOICES I don't agree with whatsoever. it's like being a communist and forcing you to be the CEO of Disney, or vice versa. I mean even Ace Attorney suffered from this when it forced you to have some guy pronounced guilty cause he was "evil" or whatever, yet let you make a "choice", which turned out to be NOT A CHOICE AT ALL. that is not acceptable whatsoever. that's spitting in the face of the player, and making him swallow it. that's a 1/10 game. needless to say, I'm not only talking about those infamous fake choices. these games never let me play the character I wanted to be, just some lawful good asswipe who believed in the "power of friendship", no matter how pathetic and ill-advised that was at the current situation. in other words shonen ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. kiddie stuff. I can't decide whether I shouted "I don't care!" at the screen more in these games or Zero escape 2 and 3. but certainly dozens of times each

[jcdenton666]

Publicado originalmente por Nihilo Rex:

They said that the DR3 anime is the end of that whole arc. So V3 is a whole new arc. Now, remember the end of DR1. I specifically remember questioning whether it's true or not, regarding the world outside. Perhaps they were trying to emulate that feeling of uncertainty they had with DR1?

who is "they"???? there's no info like that in the GAMES, and we are talking about the GAME TRILOGY here. what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ logic is that. the truth about Danganronpa might be written on a sheet of paper that's been burned in the meantime. what has been posted on twatter or said in interviews has no relevance whatsoever. none. have to point that out cause I literally can't believe what I read just now

[Symbol VI: DynastyScans]

Publicado originalmente por jcdenton666:

well they made this ♥♥♥♥ up as they went, and I realised already after the end of the first game that the ultimate end would be plain ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because the end of the first game didn't give you ANY info on what was actually going on. confer: Zero Escape, a trilogy with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ending where the first game's ending doesn't give you ANY info on what is actually going on. (only difference is that 999 actually was a satisfying and fun game...)
PS: I regret ever wasting my time on Danganronpa, and I'm not gonna 100% em either, as they aren't even good enough to spend the (unreasonable) effort on. and how is that end not completely stolen from the Truman show either... disgusting
PS2: I'd like to see the developers of the minigames subjected to executions. I'm not kidding. I want them all wiped off the face of the earth.
PS3: even without the ending, and the minigames, this would still be a 1/10 cause it is 100% linear and made me choose SO MUCH ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CHOICES I don't agree with whatsoever. it's like being a communist and forcing you to be the CEO of Disney, or vice versa. I mean even Ace Attorney suffered from this when it forced you to have some guy pronounced guilty cause he was "evil" or whatever, yet let you make a "choice", which turned out to be NOT A CHOICE AT ALL. that is not acceptable whatsoever. that's spitting in the face of the player, and making him swallow it. that's a 1/10 game. needless to say, I'm not only talking about those infamous fake choices. these games never let me play the character I wanted to be, just some lawful good asswipe who believed in the "power of friendship", no matter how pathetic and ill-advised that was at the current situation. in other words shonen ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. kiddie stuff. I can't decide whether I shouted "I don't care!" at the screen more in these games or Zero escape 2 and 3. but certainly dozens of times each

the copium is off the charts

[ikskesmz]

The writers wanted to do something different and were afraid of the sequalization of things (there are how many mortal kombats?). They needed a way to kill the series. I think anything else is really overthinking this. If I was trying to sound philosophic, I'd comment in my best Oxford voice about how the writers were commenting on how consumers say they want something new but keep buying the same stuff. I think MatPat did a game theory along similar lines for Smash Bros.

[Corvus corax]

That outcome f*cked my brain inside out. That's fine...i love it somehow.

[the homeless friend]

Publicado originalmente por SandwichCat:

if what Tsumugi said is really true, then doesnt that mean all the previous games were just acts? it doesnt make sense. i didnt like the ending at all.

i didn’t like it either tbh. we also have the plot holes with pregame v3. v3 and it’s ending had such potential but was ruined by unnecessary plot twists. i’m praying we get a danganronpa 52 with rantaro that fixes any plot holes.

[sling_shot]

The ending itself was fine.

It just fell pretty jarring if we add all those other media spinoffs/sequels to the equation.
If those never existed, this ending wouldn't have felt like a last-minute move.

[Proxykon]

Pretty sure the game made it clear that DRv3 is fiction for the player, but reality of the students in it, thus fiction within fiction. DR1 and DR2 are not "just acts". They're part of the story which birthed Danganronpa games now watched for entertainment.

[Symbol VI: DynastyScans]

yeah danganronpa is "fiction" but the entire point is that it didnt matter if it is or isnt fiction cus we (the players and the contestants) were still affected by it either way

like in the nost obvious in your face way ("the pain in my heart is still real" etc etc)