Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony

Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony

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Sand Jan 28, 2021 @ 8:22am
I just finished the game and im not satisfied with the ending. (spoiler warning)
if what Tsumugi said is really true, then doesnt that mean all the previous games were just acts? it doesnt make sense. i didnt like the ending at all.
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Blue_Glasses Jan 28, 2021 @ 8:44am 
The ending is a hit or miss, it's definitely a miss for me.

I don't really like a mystery story when they present you so much clues, only to throw them away. It just makes the overall investigation feels.. pointless
Lots Of Blue Jan 28, 2021 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by SandwichCat:
if what Tsumugi said is really true, then doesnt that mean all the previous games were just acts? it doesnt make sense. i didnt like the ending at all.
Not all of the 52 previous killing games were Real Fiction. Danganronpa 1 and 2, for instance, were videogames, just like they are in our universe.
Hurkyl Jan 28, 2021 @ 2:45pm 
It's pretty open to interpretation. I like the idea that Hope's Peak was real and DR1 and DR2 were historical fiction.
nicotrindawg Jan 29, 2021 @ 7:03am 
the ending of v3 was my favorite
コトラ Jan 29, 2021 @ 10:53am 
There are several hints that point to several of her claims being lies.
For example, in this game's variant of School Mode, Tsumugi's ending has her implying that Shuichi's clothes are cosplay, or at least that's how I interpreted that line.
Mysti_Fogg Jan 30, 2021 @ 12:30pm 
This is a different universe than DR and SDR2. In their universe, the first two games (three if you count UDG), the light novels, the animes, etc. were all real. The end of that story is the DR3 anime, if you haven't seen it.

In the universe of V3, yeah, it wasn't real.

I understand not liking the ending. I like it in an intellectual way, but on an emotional level I find it disappointing.
Hima Parvata Jan 31, 2021 @ 8:38am 
That's just how it is, there's no other way. Logically it is the only suitable ending. Emotionally, I understand if it's not what it's expected. :Monodam_DGR:
flatchet Feb 2, 2021 @ 5:13am 
So i have only question. Is cosplox real? If it is, why Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede since she is basically fictional. So i beleve cosplox is real but it works differently. You can't cosplay as fictional characters. If that is true Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede because she is fictional but can cosplay as Naegi and Co because they were real. So i beleve it is same universe as DR and DR2.
Mysti_Fogg Feb 2, 2021 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by flatchet:
So i have only question. Is cosplox real? If it is, why Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede since she is basically fictional. So i beleve cosplox is real but it works differently. You can't cosplay as fictional characters. If that is true Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede because she is fictional but can cosplay as Naegi and Co because they were real. So i beleve it is same universe as DR and DR2.

That is an interesting theory.

And it would explain the biggest contradiction with cospox. Unfortunately, we have no trustworthy source for if cospox is a real thing in DR. Though if it's not, why did Tsumugi break out? Did she spike her own clothing to make up mythical cospox?
コトラ Feb 2, 2021 @ 2:38pm 
I agree with the "Tsumugi can cosplay as fictional characters but not real people" theory as there are a lot of hints in Tsumugi's dialogue that imply she's projecting (like when she judges Korekiyo for being in love with his sister when she's guilty of the same during her Love Suite event) and lying, as she states several times that "some people prefer cosplaying as real people, which is unforgivable" and that she "prefers to make cosplay instead of wearing it herself", implying that wearing said cosplay would cause her to turn pink. There's nothing in the game that directly contradicts that, and in fact there's evidence to support it like the audition tapes, which are practically confirmed to be faked as the first Prologue contradicts everything about them, and the claims in Chapter 6 that the characters' personalities are faked, when everyone pretty much acts the exact same before and after the first Flashback Light, with some small exceptions like Kaede comforting Shuichi and making a music reference in the second Prologue.
Mordefire Feb 5, 2021 @ 8:50am 
I would say that in a sense it's true but at the same time it's not. The first time you complete the game you are meant to be struck and driven to despair. You are meant to believe that the game just broke the 4th wall and that everything was a lie. As no matter how you look at it the games are fiction. However the danganronpa universe is real.(Within the game universe itself) All the other games/anime confirm that. As the world exists beyond the death games. There's no definitive anwser to the entire mystery yet as there's tons of possible conclusions that one can come up with. It's a battle between truth and lies. You can question anything. I suspect that all the questions will be answered eventually.
Nihilo Rex Feb 7, 2021 @ 1:16am 
They said that the DR3 anime is the end of that whole arc. So V3 is a whole new arc. Now, remember the end of DR1. I specifically remember questioning whether it's true or not, regarding the world outside. Perhaps they were trying to emulate that feeling of uncertainty they had with DR1?
Originally posted by flatchet:
So i have only question. Is cosplox real? If it is, why Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede since she is basically fictional. So i beleve cosplox is real but it works differently. You can't cosplay as fictional characters. If that is true Tsumugi can't cosplay as Kaede because she is fictional but can cosplay as Naegi and Co because they were real. So i beleve it is same universe as DR and DR2.
I always thought Tsumugi couldn’t cosplay Kaede because she exists in Kaede’s universe. They are both fictional, but real in reference to each other.
Marik Feb 15, 2021 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Mysti_Fogg:
This is a different universe than DR and SDR2.
That's what I would say too if I had to delude myself with unverifiable claims to make the ending not horrible.
devild2005 Feb 15, 2021 @ 3:13pm 
Mind if I? (massive spoilers for entire franchise)

The Theme is truth v lie. So, Either, "Danganronpa" is the reverse of what Junko initially attempted, and its a hope creating device born from the despair of its contestants. Its almost beautiful that in order for the entire world to get along and achieve nirvana, the case of a few half to suffer unimaginable so people can cling onto their happiness. Its almost bold when you think about the dichotomy of Makoto "Hope will prevail", and Hajime, "There will be some despair too", the cast of V3 end up darker with the protatgonist essentially telling the world to go F itself (and thus he cou;ld represent despair compared to the other two).

The Flip side.

The World not being really apart of Danganverse could be a lie and Thus 1 &2 and even The End of Hopes Peak are all real. It opens an entire new can of possibilities. What then happened to Makoto and crew at the end of Dangan 3?

This leads to the possibility that... V3 is "The Hope Video." What if the end of Dangan 3 had Ryota win?

Ryota creates a world using Danganronpa as a template to keep his "hope" alive. Again, similiar situation as the other outcome but this time every year the cast is from the dangan world and not an alternative.

Tsumugi and Cospox. It was the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the game, but what if its partially true. She can pretend to be anyone, but pretending to be a person pretending to be someone... thats like an error. In other words, she can be Keade. But being keade being Keade doesnt work. This would mean her cosplaying as the Dangan cast can still exist in a world in which the Dangan cast was real.

My final argument for a slightly better ending.

Imagine no one in the cast is special, except maybe Tsumugi. What if, like any game, someone has to be the antagonist. So, 16 kids are kidnapped and forced to participate in a closed setting. Tsumugi isnt some mastermind who followed Team Danganronpa, she was just a girl brainwashed into being a Mastermind. She, just like Kaede and all the others one day was going to school until she got kidnapped and her brain was trained into thinking she was this great puppeteer for a terrorist organization. She lost and consigned herself into dying needlessly for a game that she was tricked into beleiving had meaning for her.

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