Live, Die, Kill

[WizoDard]

I want to hear some theories/ideas on who is going to get executed, get killed, and survive the killing game. ( Spoiler Free Please )

I would like to add to this thread of ideas...Besides who Lives, Dies, and gets Killed, what do you think is going to happen to the MonokumaCubz...?

[MonoKnight]

WizoDard původně napsal:

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YES I THINK EVERYONE DIES, BECAUSE ITS PUNISHMENT TIMEEEEEE!!!!
PUPUPUPUUPUPUPUPUPUP
Worst regardes-
your de-bear-ful pal-
monokuma

I think 2 people survive, xD...

nah, no one survives















unless they make bear puns. then they live








;3

[WizoDard]

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I actually agree with a lot of this stuff you guys are talking about. Like Kaede killing Rantarou, Gonta possibly killing Iruma, ( Which I never considered. I always thought that he would go after Himiko. ) and Tsumugi being the mastermind.
I do believe Kaede is going to kill because of some motive that Monokuma will throw at her, in terms of letting everyone escape, not for self-preservation. And she'll definitely kill because she's our first main with a normal talent...We had Naegi, who was the Ultimate Lucky Student, ( Which you learn by the end of the game his talent is not actually normal because it's the only thing that can actually take down Junko Enoshima . ) then we have Hajime, which we didn't even know what his talent was, and then there's just Kaede. She's the Ultimate Pianist. Like naw. That doesn't fit our theme of important main character talents, Kodaka.

I don't agree with what chapter Korekiyo and Kirumi kill....Korekiyo is a person who waits. There is no way he will kill in the second trial. He's going to observe people before he even decides to kill. And if he does kill, it will most likely be a disagreement between him and someone.... <----So because of that, I'm pretty sure he won't double kill...

On the topic of Korekiyo, I'm pretty he's going to try and kill Kiibo. I think he'll actually get in a fight with Kiibo about being human and being robot. Kiibo will die, and Korkeiyo will get executed although I think that Kiibo will somehow come back. ( I'm not really a firm believer in my theory on this though, because I don't think Kodaka would kill someone and then bring them back... ) And since I'm not a firm believer in this idea, I will just resort to him killing Angie. Because it's actually pretty logical if you think about it...Angie seems like the type to easily be utilized. Although on the contrary, Angie does look like the type to fight for her life. When presented with the option of death, she is going to put up a fight before being killed by her killer. So it still kind of fits my fighting theory....Or he'll just kill her in the fastest way possible because Korekiyo is smart and would plan everything out beforehand...

Kirumi is Pekoyama incarnate . There is no way she's not going to kill in the second trial...I do think Kirumi will go after either Angie or Ryouma though....It's hard for me to decide which she'll kill....( Which means she might do a double murder, cause Angie doesn't look like the type to survive very long, :/ . ) But like I stated above, if Angie is about to be killed, she'll most likely put up a fight...And since I already chose Angie to be killed by Korekiyo, as a backup from my Kiibo plan, I'm just going to say that Kirumi will probably kill Ryouma....

I disagree with you on the idea that Kaito is going to kill Kokichi. (Kaito seems like a survivor type.) I think that either Kokichi will kill in the 5th trial or get killed in the 4th trial... I do think though that somehow Kokichi will manipulate Gonta into killing...
About the multiple murder subject, I think we'll get another double murder,like in every other game, but it will be the 4th or 5th trial, instead of the third trial, as usual. In terms of the killer in the 5th trial, no one comes to mind...I feel like it is going to be a trap layed out by Tsumugi ( The Mastermind ) to catch someone in. ( Just like in the first game's 5th trial )

By the time we get to the last trial, I do believe that there will only be 6 people left...Kaito, Maki, Shuuichi, ( Cause I think he'll be our new main character ) Tsumugi, Kiibo, ( cause I'm not a firm believer in my theory ) and Himiko....I firmly believe that they will get the wrong blackened and everyone will have to get executed. Or if they get the right answer, which I still think is Tsumugi is the mastermind, she'll somehow make them all get executed...Which will result in either a massive execution of people, or, what I think, everyone will have their own execution....Why do I think they'll have their own? Because I'm pretty sure there will be either 2 or 3 survivors...Himiko, Kaito, and possibly Maki. They will somehow survive their execution and escape...And I said possibly Maki because there is a rule that if the students keep guessing the blackened correctly only 2 people can make it out alive...And if that rule follows even while they are about to get executed, I'm willing to sacrifice Maki for my Himiko...Kaito is for sure surviving this game no matter what. Shuuichi is definitely getting killed again because Kodaka kills your favorite characters and breaks hidden game tropes that everyone follows...( And besides that we already have an Ultimate Detective that survived the killing game. )

Besides all my theories above, I think both of you are looking at it a little standard. I don't think Kodaka is going to do the common, this is what happens in the third trial, this is what happens in the fifth trial, type of order. He's going to mix things up this time, and switch things around. Kind of like what Shuuichi was saying, with the big/muscular people get killed in the fourth chapter trope. I do think this time that Gonta will kill, cause it will catch some people off guard. Once they see that Gonta hasn't been killed in the fourth trial they'll think, " OH YEAH MY CINNAMON ROLL IS SURVIVNG" but then they are forced to watch him get executed. xD. So in terms of killings and deaths, my theories are going to be a lot different from your theories...

Also in one part of Clover Chiaki's post she said that she had a theory about them being trapped in an asylum and being insane. Shuuichi, the guy who posted above, also said in his Chapter 6th Explanation that Tsumugi locked them in a prison to keep them from seeing the outside world. Now, I know it's called, " Gifted Juvenilles Prison " but can we all take a step back and realize they're in a highschool? It's actually called, " The Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juvenilles ". An academy. No prison has classrooms and all that crap. Stop believing all these ideas saying they're locked in a prison. And no, this is not a spoiler, here's a literal confirmation from Spike Chunsoft. https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpa/images/7/73/Gifted_Inmates_Logo.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20161222182046 That's an image of the Highschool's Logo. I actually got it from their MonoMono Coin website. They give it to you. So, it's like the first game. They're trapped in a school, not a prison....Although I kind of agree with Shuuichi...There's probably a reason why they got trapped in here...Meaning something happened in the outside world, once again, like in the first game...

Everything I'm going say to below is presented in the order of which I believe people will kill. Example: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, etc.
Killers: Kaede, Kirumi, Korekiyo, Gonta, Tsumugi laying a trap, and Tsumugi, Shuuichi, and Kiibo... ( Cause they all would get executed, if we're going off my theory )
Survivors: Kaito and Himiko, Kaito, and Maki, or Kaito, Himiko, and Maki...Cause I don't know if Maki will survive or not, but I'm betting on all three making it out alive. ( Which means we'll have 3 more executions than usual. ( I loved my Gundham, but he didn't have to do it )
Killed: Rantarou, Ryouma, Angie, Iruma and Tenko, Ouma... I don't have a lot on my killed list, xD.

I don't see why you would think your post scared people off. It was very easy and quick to read all of it. Took me about a few minutes. I agree with you that Tsumugi is the mastermind. I disagree with Kaede killing Rantaro, however. I strongly belive Rantaro will break a rule and get ripped apart by the Exiles. I disagree with Gonta killing Miu, as I think Miu will also be a killer. I think Gonta will kill Himiko. I disagree with Korekiyo killing Kiibo, I think Kokichi will kill him. Kokichi seems like Byakuya, and I think Kodaka will try to go against expectations by making him kill Kiibo. I think Korekiyo will kill Angie, but I don't think Angie will fight back. I think she will be sneak attacked. I think Kirumi might kill Ryoma, though. I think that Kaede, Kaito, and Tenko will all end up breaking a rule at some point in the game. And so Tsumugi is the mastermind, and she gets executed at the end. And the two survivors will be Shuichi and Maki. Keep in mind that this post isn't some well thought-out plan. This is just me agreeing/disagreeing with your points, and throwing some of my ideas in there. I hardly revised this, too. And it's super disorganized so I hope you had fun reading this.

It was a pretty long post, and when people look at it, it seems pretty overwhelming...Also, some people just want a quick update on what's going on, or to read a little bit of theories. Not read an entire essay based off of someone's opinion. I'm glad you liked it though, :D.

So this is basically going to be me asking a bunch of, why, why, and why. Cause you don't really justify your opinions for some of these things. And other than me asking the whys', I will add my own opinion to go against yours...

So, yes we both agree creepy Tsumugi is going to be the mastermind. She always came off as a creep to me. Even though she seems kind on the outside, I feel like her passion for her talent is what drove her to start this crazy killing game...She even says, I think, in the Japanese Trailer, " Black-haired red-eyed characters are all great without exception!". Which just goes to show that something is going to happen with Maki and her. ( I love you Celeste ) And after that, she then goes on to say that, " An act of blowing life into a particular fictional character and summoning fiction into reality..." These lines just goes to show how obsessed she truly is with her talent. ( The second line is in the bar at the bottom ). The lines I quoted, that Tsumugi says, is at 47 seconds. https://youtu.be/d7552RUFatQ?t=47
And then if you want to go even deeper into her character, the Japanese VA is amazingly good and basically portrays her as this crazy girl who's obsessed with anime. ( Her voice is so creepy it's just off-putting to me ) I knew from the moment I saw this Japanese trailer she would be the mastermind, xD. But, like I think I previously stated in my last post, this time around I'm pretty sure the mastermind character will be more of a "why" they're the mastermind, rather than a " who" is the mastermind...Because everyone is guessing Tsumugi Shirogane, but no one guessed Junko Enoshima when she was the mastermind. Which tells you that Kodaka has switched his reasoning for the mastermind. I do not agree with anyone who says Tsumugi will kill in any trial before the 6th. So for example, I've seen people say that she'll disguise as someone else, in the third trial, after killing them and fake her own death in the process...So in the trial she'll be disguised as the dead person, and they'll have to figure out who killed Tsumugi Shirogane. While that sounds super cool, I feel like her character was built with much more potential in mind. She definitely won't be a, " throw-away, I killed LOOK AT HOW COOL I AM" person...

Anyway, transitioning off of the creepiest character in the game, I don't understand why you think that Rantarou will get killed by breaking one of the rules...I, "strongly" believe that Kaede will kill Rantarou. Kaede will kill someone because of her motivation for everyone to escape. I believe that Monokuma will take advantage of this and give her a motive to kill someone. ( For example, if someone kills someone, and gets away with it, instead of them escaping, everyone else will...) Some kind of motive that will clearly be aimed at Kaede. The reason I think she'll go after Rantarou is because of what he says in the demo. ( Loads up demo to remember what Rantarou said. Game crashes on him and he realizes he needs to get a new computer soon. Loads up the game one more time. Gets the screenshots and proof needed. ) Rantarou says, " Anyway, it'd be nice if we could get along. We aren't going anywhere for a while. " in which Kaede responds with a salty sprite, " Stop that. We'll escape soon. " So I believe they will get in a disagreement about escaping and she will kill him over it knowing there is a motive for everyone to escape. This will most likely happen in the library, if you watch the Japanese trailers, all they talk about in the trial scenes is the library. Here is the screenshots of Kaede getting TRIGGERED at Rantarou:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/854976708550067993/00198DBD5AFC2C79B8DF49527D0C7AAC73366810/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/854976708550068307/473DFB8843E837F83C8F4D3B2C1A7B15548A0EF1/

I have no idea why you think Iruma is going to kill. She acts all tough but she is weak on the inside, and is definitely not a Mikan repeat.

I originally thought that Gonta would kill Himiko but I have since changed my opinion of what will happen to Himiko. First of all, before I explain why I changed my opinion, I'm pretty sure Gonta will be manipulated by Ouma to kill someone. He might kill Ouma, but I think Ouma would be stead-fast of that and try to avoid it. So, Ouma would utilize Gonta's anger towards someone else, and I think that person would be Iruma. It wouldn't be Himiko because it seems like Gonta and my Himiko will be very close to another. He wouldn't get angry at her for anything. If Ouma ever said for Gonta to kill her, he wouldn't do it and probably get angry and attack Ouma instead... ( I don't agree with Himiko and Gonta being friends at all. I'm pretty sure they will be friends but every time I see them together I will scream in my head because I HATE Gonta and he I won't allow him anywhere near my love, Himiko...Although I love Kirumi the most... ) There is a very big possibility that Ouma will die by Gonta's hands because Ouma is ignorant and will mess with Gonta's anger. Which will either go right or wrong for him. ( Honestly, I hope Gonta kills Ouma. It would be a pleasure for my most-hated character to attack my second most-hated character. ) I disagree with you saying that Ouma will kill anyone because Ouma is a manipulator. He would make someone else do it for him. And if he did touch/kill/go after someone it definitely won't be Kiibo. Although it seems like he has some hatred for Kiibo, I honestly think he takes pleasure in making Kiibo mad and annoyed. ( Also, to back up Ouma being a manipulator just look at his talent. Rulers don't stand on the front line. And no, I don't think he's lying about his talent at all... )

About that Korekiyo thing, I did state that I don't think he'll kill Kiibo but there is a possibility...Although I did say that Korekiyo is more likely to kill Angie, which I'm glad we agree on. Anybody who says Korekiyo and Kirumi won't kill is a fool and didn't put much thinking into their theory/theories. (****TRIGGERED**** SHOTS FIRED**** ) I'm wondering why you think that Korekiyo would do a sneak attack though. Korekiyo is the planner type and he definitely would have everything figured out and just sneak attack someone instead of going through the risk of loosing the fight...If you have a good enough reason to why Angie would be sneak attacked and not fight back, I might agree with you...

Kirumi will probably kill Ryouma, because midgets get Shrekt... ( xD, things happen. I could make a better reason as to why Ryouma dies but I'm not feeling so right now. Okay, yes I am. ) No, the real reason I think Ryouma will kill is because he has some major regrets/doubts in him from previously taking out that Mafia Gang. Here's where I got the idea of him having regret/doubt: ( It's at 36 seconds ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFAISt3BMI8 He says, " I just need to hurry up and forget". It's in his shot through the heart, which means it's a very serious thing going on inside his head that he doesn't want
to speak about, as is any other shot through the heart. I assume he's talking about killing the Mafia Gang and how he doesn't want to remember what he did. This is basically stating that, although he is good at killing and can do it if he wants to, he hates killing people and is against it. Something to back this up a bit, is that he always says, stay away from me, I've killed people in the past and I could kill you. He uses that as a threat so people get scared. But not once, has he raised a hand to attack someone. He just threatens them to stay away. ( This also shows he doesn't even know what he's capable of yet. ) Also, if you look at the top left corner at 36 seconds, it shows that he is on the last phrase of his shot through the heart, "cycle" if you will. Which means he has already stated some of his problems before-hand and then he just decides that he should forget about them...Now, when he says the forget about it phrase, he could also be speaking about the Killing Game itself. Which is why I said doubt/regret. Because, he's doubting that anyone will actually kill in this game or that it will be a major problem. So, he just wants to forget about it and move on. ( Which, if you don't know, is pretty hard to do when you're in the middle of the situation ) Eventually the first or second reason I stated will come back to him and Kirumi will probably utilize this to smack the Nibba on the head. ( Yeah, he'll probably get insta-killed like Mahiru and because of the metal bat . It would be very humorous for me if she whacked him on the head with her broom, xD. )

[WizoDard]

I couldn't post this comment because, " Sorry, some kind of error has occurred: Comments can't be longer than 18000 characters." That's embarrassing...So I cut my long winded crap essay in half and this is the other half of the above comment...

I believe that everyone will eventually break a rule in this game, but I don't think anyone will get killed that way. ( If we're not talking about the killing rule of course ). I already stated, and say it a lot, over and over again, that I believe something will happen that wipes out most of the people alive. The thing I use for this is them guessing the wrong blackened...That way most people would get executed but some would have a failed-execution and escape the Killing Game. ( This would of course happen in the 6th trial ).

Now finally, I want to speak about the 5th trial. I have put a little bit of thought into who would kill, and after playing the demo, I now believe that Kaito will be the 5th killer. Although he was my main candidate for surviving this killing game, I'm going to hand that role over to Maki. After getting to know him a little bit in the demo, I realized that he is definitely going to be a killer that takes everyone by surprise...He won't kill anywhere in the beginning of the game because he'll need A LOT, and I mean, A LOT of motivation to kill someone, or lots of people. He might be that person that goes all out and says he's done with this crap. Which makes him kill like 3 people, xD. Anyway, the main reason I decided he would be the 5th trial killer is because of his dream to make it to space. He is always babbling on about he is, " KAITO MOMOTA, LUMINARY OF THE STARS!!! ". This exact line, and his beliefs leads me to believe that he will probably kill to escape and get out to space. Especially later in the game because he will have realized that waiting and waiting is not the solution and if he continues to wait he will not get out of this Killing Game and reach space. So he'll decide that it's time to kill. ( And the extra push over the edge will, of course, be Monokuma's motive for the 5th Chapter... ) This is a little boring to me though, because we already had Jin Kirigiri's execution at the beginning of Danganronpa TRIGGERED Happy Havoc . But I trust in Kodaka to make the execution surprising and worthy of the 5th trial. RIP CHIAKI I LOVE YOU BEST EXECUTION IN SDR2 . Also, the execution will probably be really ironic because Kaito wants to go to space, so that's what will happen in his execution...

Now I did say that the above paragraph was my final paragraph for this post, but I didn't discuss why I chose Maki and Himiko for survivors. First of all, I believe that Himiko will survive because she will become MAJOR friends with Tenko and Angie. Who will both die during the killing game and motivate her to strive to survive and win this game. and we all know that Kodaka hates people dying without reason because he once stated that he was going to kill off Fuyuhiko in the third chapter of SDR2 and have Hiyoko survive, but, he thought Pekoyama's sacrifice would've in vain. So he changed it around and made Hiyoko die instead of Fuyuhiko . Knowing that, if Himiko lost her best friends Kodaka wouldn't just kill her off. ( Also HIyoKO HImiKO. They start and end the same, xD. Most likely on accident but if it was on purpose that's pretty clever Kodaka ). And then I chose Maki as my other survivor because she doesn't really have any motivation to kill at all. There's literally nothing I can think of that's motivating her to kill someone, you could say her daycare kids are but that doesn't even fit her character that much...And nobody would try to kill Maki because she has a very scary character and definitely wouldn't let anyone kill her off so easily. So people would just try to avoid her as a victim target. The only person I can think of who would kill Maki is Kaito, but I'm pretty sure they develop a good relationship throughout the killing game, so he wouldn't target her at all...

So this is my updated list of killers, killed people, and survivors...And they are going in order from first trial to last trial, from left to right.
Killed: Rantarou, Ryouma and Tenko, Angie and Tenko, Iruma, and Ouma.
Killers: Kaede, Kirumi, Korekiyo, Gonta, Kaito, and Tsumugi, Kiibo, and Shuuichi.
Survivors: Maki and Himiko.
I believe that Shuuchi will die in the 6th trial with Tsumugi and Kiibo, cause of my wrong blackened theory.
I didn't really have a place for Tenko to die, but she just feels like a second chapter die-er. At the same time, she also feels like she would die in the same chapter as Angie. But I don't think Kodaka will do the, Double Murder in the third trial three times in a row...So that's why I put her as second and third trial deaths, cause I'm unsure of when she'll die...I also have no idea who Tsumugi would kill for the 6th trial, and I don't think it's Maki because she has a passionate love for people with black hair and red eyes...

[WizoDard]

I finally finished both of the posts. Both of them combined, revised and written, took me 2 hours and a half... At least I finished them for other people to read...
Here is a cheerful video that I used to cheer myself up over how much time I wasted making that essay crap... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbeBhdjW1_w

[lilac]

ALL MY THEORIES. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME IF I WAS RIGHT OR WRONG. (IF YOU ARE AT LEAST USE A SPOILER TAG) I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHEN THE GAME COMES OUT. THANK YOU.

I'm honestly coninved the blue hair girl is the mastermind. Like, her deisgn is so plain and ordinary I don't trust her at all. Plus, she can literally disguse herself as anyone else, right?

My theory is that (whatever her name is) isn't actually her real name, but a fake name and "personality" she created to fit into the other classmates so they won't suscpect her.

I think the loli witch girl is going to murder someone and make the trial super hard and complex to almost make it seem like it was "magic." That would be interesting.

I'm pretty sure the guy with the mask will allow himself to be killed and actually help the killer into killing him, lol.

My other theory is that the beautiful blonde hair anime boy is going to sacfrice himself into to find out who the mastermind is.

The girl who hates boys is going to be killed by a girl and she'll actually try to let her be killed in purpose for that girl to live because she's a girl or actually try to defend herself and end up killing the girl in self defense or "accident" then she freaks out and tries to hide everything.


Now, for surviors... I think it's going to be

Kaede

Maki

Boy with the facial hair

Maid

Gonta (sorry he's my daddy and i want him to live)

small biker boy

[WizoDard]

wavebro původně napsal:

ALL MY THEORIES. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME IF I WAS RIGHT OR WRONG. (IF YOU ARE AT LEAST USE A SPOILER TAG) I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHEN THE GAME COMES OUT. THANK YOU.

I'm honestly coninved the blue hair girl is the mastermind. Like, her deisgn is so plain and ordinary I don't trust her at all. Plus, she can literally disguse herself as anyone else, right?

My theory is that (whatever her name is) isn't actually her real name, but a fake name and "personality" she created to fit into the other classmates so they won't suscpect her.

I think the loli witch girl is going to murder someone and make the trial super hard and complex to almost make it seem like it was "magic." That would be interesting.

I'm pretty sure the guy with the mask will allow himself to be killed and actually help the killer into killing him, lol.

My other theory is that the beautiful blonde hair anime boy is going to sacfrice himself into to find out who the mastermind is.

The girl who hates boys is going to be killed by a girl and she'll actually try to let her be killed in purpose for that girl to live because she's a girl or actually try to defend herself and end up killing the girl in self defense or "accident" then she freaks out and tries to hide everything.


Now, for surviors... I think it's going to be

Kaede

Maki

Boy with the facial hair

Maid

Gonta (sorry he's my daddy and i want him to live)

small biker boy

I'm guessing you haven't done a lot of reasearch...Well, for starters I'm just going to say that there is only two survivors.... I copied this from the official website...
" 6. If innocent students (hereinafter referred to as "the spotless") continue to survive class trials, the killing game will continue until only two students remain. "
And there are only 6 chapters in the game. So start theorizing what four of your survivors will die, xD.

[SeriousSeiko]

WizoDard původně napsal:

I copied this from the official website...

what if its a lie though

[WizoDard]

нιмιкσ уυмєиσ původně napsal:

WizoDard původně napsal:

I copied this from the official website...

what if its a lie though

It could be...But there's either 3 survivors or 2 survivors...

[defective pancake]

My initial delusions about the game were that Rantaro was the mastermind who gets "killed" "Junko"-style in chapter 1 (that's mostly because I'm always suspicious of "nice guys" and Rantaro looks and acts like that one love interest from an otome VN who turns out to be a psychotic yandere once you're firmly locked into a romance route with him. Don't ask me how I came up with that, I've actually not played THAT many otome VNs), and Tsumugi is his sidekick exactly because he looks like an otome prince or something like that. Also Kaede obviously goes for the kill in chapter 1, Kiibo murders Ouma in an incredibly violent manner at some point (on accident) and Saihara goes for the kill in chapter 5 and nobody suspects him because he derails the investigation completely thanks to his detective shenanigans, and because he's aiming to "win" the game. But then this action leading him to effectively killing off all the cast kind of makes the events in chapter 6 very vague... I just really want to see a Danganronpa game where the killer succeeds, damn it! What's with this rule if they never show us its consequences!

[WizoDard]

defective pancake původně napsal:

My initial delusions about the game were that Rantaro was the mastermind who gets "killed" "Junko"-style in chapter 1 (that's mostly because I'm always suspicious of "nice guys" and Rantaro looks and acts like that one love interest from an otome VN who turns out to be a psychotic yandere once you're firmly locked into a romance route with him. Don't ask me how I came up with that, I've actually not played THAT many otome VNs), and Tsumugi is his sidekick exactly because he looks like an otome prince or something like that. Also Kaede obviously goes for the kill in chapter 1, Kiibo murders Ouma in an incredibly violent manner at some point (on accident) and Saihara goes for the kill in chapter 5 and nobody suspects him because he derails the investigation completely thanks to his detective shenanigans, and because he's aiming to "win" the game. But then this action leading him to effectively killing off all the cast kind of makes the events in chapter 6 very vague... I just really want to see a Danganronpa game where the killer succeeds, damn it! What's with this rule if they never show us its consequences!

Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with the final point of your theory. So far this "blackened wins" rule has been used as motivation so people actually strive to guess the correct person in the trial. Although, I, like you, would like to see this rule actually go through for once. But, if you think it's going to be Shuuichi who plans the 5th trial, then who will be the Main Character for the entire game? And please don't say Kaito or Maki. If you say them you better have a good explanation, xD. I disagree with basically everything you say, even the mastermind. I can't believe I found someone who doesn't think the mastermind is Tsumugi Shirogane...And how do you kill someone, " incredibly-violent" but on accident? Those two things don't necessarily go together...Who do you think Kaede would kill in chapter 1? And you basically proved your Shuuichi theory wrong by saying that there would be no trial for Chapter 6 if he killed everyone off in Chapter 5...I have heard both the Rantarou and Shuuichi theories though...I used to think they could be some sort of correct but now I just disagree a lot...

[Lia]

WizoDard původně napsal:

I couldn't post this comment because, " Sorry, some kind of error has occurred: Comments can't be longer than 18000 characters." That's embarrassing...So I cut my long winded crap essay in half and this is the other half of the above comment...

I believe that everyone will eventually break a rule in this game, but I don't think anyone will get killed that way. ( If we're not talking about the killing rule of course ). I already stated, and say it a lot, over and over again, that I believe something will happen that wipes out most of the people alive. The thing I use for this is them guessing the wrong blackened...That way most people would get executed but some would have a failed-execution and escape the Killing Game. ( This would of course happen in the 6th trial ).

Now finally, I want to speak about the 5th trial. I have put a little bit of thought into who would kill, and after playing the demo, I now believe that Kaito will be the 5th killer. Although he was my main candidate for surviving this killing game, I'm going to hand that role over to Maki. After getting to know him a little bit in the demo, I realized that he is definitely going to be a killer that takes everyone by surprise...He won't kill anywhere in the beginning of the game because he'll need A LOT, and I mean, A LOT of motivation to kill someone, or lots of people. He might be that person that goes all out and says he's done with this crap. Which makes him kill like 3 people, xD. Anyway, the main reason I decided he would be the 5th trial killer is because of his dream to make it to space. He is always babbling on about he is, " KAITO MOMOTA, LUMINARY OF THE STARS!!! ". This exact line, and his beliefs leads me to believe that he will probably kill to escape and get out to space. Especially later in the game because he will have realized that waiting and waiting is not the solution and if he continues to wait he will not get out of this Killing Game and reach space. So he'll decide that it's time to kill. ( And the extra push over the edge will, of course, be Monokuma's motive for the 5th Chapter... ) This is a little boring to me though, because we already had Jin Kirigiri's execution at the beginning of Danganronpa TRIGGERED Happy Havoc . But I trust in Kodaka to make the execution surprising and worthy of the 5th trial. RIP CHIAKI I LOVE YOU BEST EXECUTION IN SDR2 . Also, the execution will probably be really ironic because Kaito wants to go to space, so that's what will happen in his execution...

Now I did say that the above paragraph was my final paragraph for this post, but I didn't discuss why I chose Maki and Himiko for survivors. First of all, I believe that Himiko will survive because she will become MAJOR friends with Tenko and Angie. Who will both die during the killing game and motivate her to strive to survive and win this game. and we all know that Kodaka hates people dying without reason because he once stated that he was going to kill off Fuyuhiko in the third chapter of SDR2 and have Hiyoko survive, but, he thought Pekoyama's sacrifice would've in vain. So he changed it around and made Hiyoko die instead of Fuyuhiko . Knowing that, if Himiko lost her best friends Kodaka wouldn't just kill her off. ( Also HIyoKO HImiKO. They start and end the same, xD. Most likely on accident but if it was on purpose that's pretty clever Kodaka ). And then I chose Maki as my other survivor because she doesn't really have any motivation to kill at all. There's literally nothing I can think of that's motivating her to kill someone, you could say her daycare kids are but that doesn't even fit her character that much...And nobody would try to kill Maki because she has a very scary character and definitely wouldn't let anyone kill her off so easily. So people would just try to avoid her as a victim target. The only person I can think of who would kill Maki is Kaito, but I'm pretty sure they develop a good relationship throughout the killing game, so he wouldn't target her at all...

So this is my updated list of killers, killed people, and survivors...And they are going in order from first trial to last trial, from left to right.
Killed: Rantarou, Ryouma and Tenko, Angie and Tenko, Iruma, and Ouma.
Killers: Kaede, Kirumi, Korekiyo, Gonta, Kaito, and Tsumugi, Kiibo, and Shuuichi.
Survivors: Maki and Himiko.
I believe that Shuuchi will die in the 6th trial with Tsumugi and Kiibo, cause of my wrong blackened theory.
I didn't really have a place for Tenko to die, but she just feels like a second chapter die-er. At the same time, she also feels like she would die in the same chapter as Angie. But I don't think Kodaka will do the, Double Murder in the third trial three times in a row...So that's why I put her as second and third trial deaths, cause I'm unsure of when she'll die...I also have no idea who Tsumugi would kill for the 6th trial, and I don't think it's Maki because she has a passionate love for people with black hair and red eyes...

Alright, you showed you have some clearly thought out theories. Mine are simply guesses, but yours are actually believable and have an actual leg to stand on. I find myself agreeing with more of the points you made, like Oma being a manipulator. As for Rantaro, I had two theories. I deleted the first one. 1:He was ripped apart by the Exiles 2:He commits suicide. But none of these I have an actual explanation for, it's just what I think. I think that at leasr *someone* will get ripped apart by the Exiles, otherwise it would feel kind of pointless to even introduce the punishment given by them. Obviously it's to keep the students in line, but it would be disappointing not to see an example. Perhaps one of the Monokubs will be killed by the Exiles? And I definitely agree with kaito being the killer. No doubt in that. I definitely don't think Kaede will kill in chapter one, however. That's just too soon. I think they'll make you so attached to Kaede, and in the second or second-to-last chapter they will kill her off with a truly despair inducing execution. And you never know, Miu could be killer material in the Danganronpa universe. Once again, these are just thoughts, I have nothing to them.

[lilac]

WizoDard původně napsal:

I'm guessing you haven't done a lot of reasearch...Well, for starters I'm just going to say that there is only two survivors.... I copied this from the official website...

I've read this before, but I don't know if I actually believe they're actually going through with this.

[defective pancake]

WizoDard původně napsal:

Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with the final point of your theory. So far this "blackened wins" rule has been used as motivation so people actually strive to guess the correct person in the trial. Although, I, like you, would like to see this rule actually go through for once. But, if you think it's going to be Shuuichi who plans the 5th trial, then who will be the Main Character for the entire game? And please don't say Kaito or Maki. If you say them you better have a good explanation, xD. I disagree with basically everything you say, even the mastermind. I can't believe I found someone who doesn't think the mastermind is Tsumugi Shirogane...And how do you kill someone, " incredibly-violent" but on accident? Those two things don't necessarily go together...Who do you think Kaede would kill in chapter 1? And you basically proved your Shuuichi theory wrong by saying that there would be no trial for Chapter 6 if he killed everyone off in Chapter 5...I have heard both the Rantarou and Shuuichi theories though...I used to think they could be some sort of correct but now I just disagree a lot...

Whew... I already know how the actual plot goes down, relax. I've made a bunch of baseless theories just before the game was to be released in Japan. I only saw the cast twice, maybe thrice before it, in Famitsu articles. I didn't really have time to think about anything in-depth. Then, when the game was out, I watched the initial streams of the game while waiting for my JP copy to arrive (I always spoil myself because the suspicion drives me literally insane), played it and it cleared most of my lingering suspicions. There's literally no need for you to act so autistic over it, just like there's no need for me to base my initial theories on anything. I only did it for fun. I wasn't trying to predict the course of the game in any way.
I'd argue with you about "incredibly violent on accident" though, to me it sounds like something that can definitely happen in a Danganronpa game.

[Qiseichi]

Knight of Sigalem původně napsal:

WizoDard původně napsal:

I think 2 people survive, xD...

nah, no one survives















unless they make bear puns. then they live








;3

I don't think I can make an unBEARable joke. There, now I live through the killing game xDDD

[Anoldanimefan]

I want K1-B0 to survive