Chapter 4, man...

[xlightthefuse]

I hate Kokichi so much, this is just as emotional as the first chapter. He could have chosen someone else to manipulate but Gonta? Even if he's the easiest target.

I was so hoping it would be him. He was okay during the first three chapters but now ♥♥♥♥ Kokichi, I'm so mad and sad... :( This is what we get from the Ultimate Supreme Leader, I guess I'm not surprised.

And then hearing Gonta's reasoning, my heart just broke apart, but still... why did it have to be Gonta? :(

[Daniel]

I love and hate Kokichi.
Chapter 4 was really depressing...

[skellish]

I love Kokichi so much. He's so much more than what I expected from the token crazy/antagonizing character. I think you need to finish the game before you can really apreciate him, but he's definitely tied for my favorite character with Keebo (who also is so much deeper than you might expect).

[xlightthefuse]

I also totally forgot about that one comment that Kokichi made to Shuichi before he and Shuichi logged out of the virtual world, how he was going to strangle someone to get them to notice him? I wonder what he meant, and that was also how I suspected him after Miu was found dead. I still think of this sometimes, lol. If only he lived just a little longer!

I also finished the game a few short hours ago and Kokichi's intentions still confuse me.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Originally posted by xlightthefuse:

I also totally forgot about that one comment that Kokichi made to Shuichi before he and Shuichi logged out of the virtual world, how he was going to strangle someone to get them to notice him? I wonder what he meant, and that was also how I suspected him after Miu was found dead. I still think of this sometimes, lol. If only he lived just a little longer!

I also finished the game a few short hours ago and Kokichi's intentions still confuse me.

Basically, he wanted to end the killing game. The conversation he has with Kaito was entirely truthful. He hates killing and is disgusted and pissed off by the people running the show. He never plays the game the mastermind wants, which is why he's damn near always opposing Kaede and Shuichi, because they're doing what the mastermind wants. He starts becoming more exaggerated in his evil after chapter 4, where he got two people killed, likely because he feels guilty for it. Everything he does is in an attempt to undermine the mastermind and/or end the killing game. The entire point of the fifth trial was basically to utterly humiliate the mastermind and prove they're not playing by the rules. He's a very interesting character to study, honestly.

[xlightthefuse]

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

Basically, he wanted to end the killing game. The conversation he has with Kaito was entirely truthful. He hates killing and is disgusted and pissed off by the people running the show. He never plays the game the mastermind wants, which is why he's damn near always opposing Kaede and Shuichi, because they're doing what the mastermind wants. He starts becoming more exaggerated in his evil after chapter 4, where he got two people killed, likely because he feels guilty for it. Everything he does is in an attempt to undermine the mastermind and/or end the killing game. The entire point of the fifth trial was basically to utterly humiliate the mastermind and prove they're not playing by the rules. He's a very interesting character to study, honestly.

I know this surpasses chapter 4 but oh well? But I do understand what you're saying. Kokichi did in fact want to end the killing game, thus he didn't really want to kill anyone himself as I assumed so he practically made Gonta do it instead. I think that his goal from the start was to expose the mastermind and maybe he thought of this way earlier or maybe not. I feel as if he tried to have Miu invent whatever the hell he wanted because he wanted to expose the mastermind instead of playing their games properly. This also explains the writings on the wall, right? That was what I got from it and with him pretending to be the mastermind, that was apart of his plan to expose that person as well. At first, I thought it was just another lie what he told Kaito but it probably wasn't the case. Looking back on what we found in Kokichi's room made me think a little bit and the clues he left for everyone. If what I think is true then Kokichi is definitely terrifying smart as well.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Originally posted by xlightthefuse:

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

Basically, he wanted to end the killing game. The conversation he has with Kaito was entirely truthful. He hates killing and is disgusted and pissed off by the people running the show. He never plays the game the mastermind wants, which is why he's damn near always opposing Kaede and Shuichi, because they're doing what the mastermind wants. He starts becoming more exaggerated in his evil after chapter 4, where he got two people killed, likely because he feels guilty for it. Everything he does is in an attempt to undermine the mastermind and/or end the killing game. The entire point of the fifth trial was basically to utterly humiliate the mastermind and prove they're not playing by the rules. He's a very interesting character to study, honestly.

I know this surpasses chapter 4 but oh well? But I do understand what you're saying. Kokichi did in fact want to end the killing game, thus he didn't really want to kill anyone himself as I assumed so he practically made Gonta do it instead. I feel as if he tried to have Miu invent whatever the hell he wanted because he wanted to expose the mastermind instead of playing their games properly. This also explains the writings on the wall, right? That was what I got from it and with him pretending to be the mastermind, that was apart of his plan to expose that person as well. At first, I thought it was just another lie what he told Kaito but it probably wasn't the case. Looking back on what we found in Kokichi's room made me think a little bit and the clues he left for everyone.

Yeah, sorry about this :/ I don't believe the writing on the wall, at least initially, was his. I presume it was Amami who wrote those. Any later additions were his, though. And yeah, I think he hoarded all that evidence so that the mastermind couldn't take it, just in case he needed it down the line.

[Anoldanimefan]

I am just near the end of Chapter 5 and man, my views on Kokichi are chnaging - respect ,Battler Ushiromiya. He is not my cup of tea though but I get you

[shtanko]

Poor Gonta, but it's easy to see that he's the culprit even before the trial started. I think it'd be more emotional for me if they didn't gave out the whole case during investigation. After all, even before the murder occured I felt that Miu and Gonta behaved oddly somehow, so death flags were raising already. Though to be honest I thought that Miu would kill Gonta, not other way around.