Why wont this leave beta stage?

[devon_rex_unreal]

Honestly why did they leave this project?

[MASTAN]

IIRC long ago Fusion was meant to be an eternal beta version, always using the newest Serious Engine and including new SS games while standalone versions would keep the original engine.
But around SS4 release time or earlier the idea was dropped, probably because it was too much work with no return. SS4 wasn't integrated, Fusion was pretty much abandoned. Even small things like devastator scope remain unfixed.

[Ryason55]

Personally, I feel it's because of 2 things:
1. The monetary incentive to develop Fusion was the VR games, as those were actively being made at the time. However, once Talos VR failed commercially, Croteam quickly wrapped up Serious Sam 3 VR (which was in development around the same time), booted it out the door, and ceased all VR development. From there, Fusion was on its death march.
2. Alen Ladavac leaving Croteam. From what I've seen, he was the main person at Croteam pushing for this kind of stuff. But between Talos VR's shortcoming and the stress of Serious Sam 4 development, he had to put aside Fusion and the VR games, and eventually just left Croteam entirely.

Originally posted by The_GSD:

To addition to what Mastan said, Fusion was abandoned also because the idea of housing different games within a single hub sounded good on paper, but in reality it introduced tons and tons of bugs. SSHD and SS3 were just not meant to be together, and no doubt SS4 would have made matters worse.

The reason Fusion had tons of bugs was because bleeding edge code from Serious Sam 4 development was leaking in every patch. They branched off the code late in Fusion's life so that that would stop happening, but that also meant they could leave it to stagnate. Putting Serious Sam 4 into Fusion at this point would basically just be throwing out the current Fusion build, and then trying to get everything running correctly in Serious Sam 4's build of the engine.

[devon_rex_unreal]

The standalone sshd titles arent using the newest builds right?

[MASTAN]

Originally posted by devon_rex_unreal:

The standalone sshd titles arent using the newest builds right?

Yes standalone Serious Sam games use quite an old engine. They're DX9/OpenGL and 32-bit while Fusion is DX11+/Vulkan and 64-bit.

[devon_rex_unreal]

Originally posted by MASTAN:

Originally posted by devon_rex_unreal:

The standalone sshd titles arent using the newest builds right?

Yes standalone Serious Sam games use quite an old engine. They're DX9/OpenGL and 32-bit while Fusion is DX11+/Vulkan and 64-bit.

Thanks!

[Jack left town]

Just Croteam things

[vlad[54rus]]

A bane of PC gaming, tons of broken, unfinished games that no one wants to maintain.

[Gusλλλλλλ]

This is really sad.

[Lywelyn]

it was good on paper but a hell of a challenge to pull of with all the different engine version alone.

but eh for what it is worth it has the first encounters and BFE integrated which is cool, serious people use fusion regardless but yeah beyond that with SS4 it's mental

[Heinrich6745]

is it still worth playing through fusion or just use the stand alone on the previous games? i mean they do have their own set of achievements so that is a factor too if you care for such things.

[Ω]

Originally posted by Heinrich6745:

is it still worth playing through fusion or just use the stand alone on the previous games? i mean they do have their own set of achievements so that is a factor too if you care for such things.

I was wondering about this too.

[Cuchi]

Originally posted by Heinrich6745:

is it still worth playing through fusion or just use the stand alone on the previous games? i mean they do have their own set of achievements so that is a factor too if you care for such things.

Originally posted by Ω:

Originally posted by Heinrich6745:

is it still worth playing through fusion or just use the stand alone on the previous games? i mean they do have their own set of achievements so that is a factor too if you care for such things.

I was wondering about this too.

Fusion, even in an eternal beta stuck, is still a newest updated version of the First Encounter HD, Second Encounter HD and Before First Encounter (Serious Sam 3).

So Fusion is better over standalone versions.

[Sixteen60]

Not to mention, this mod doesn't work on Fusion when it's like the most important one. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103083830