Ummmm.... No JETPACK on final level

[Serious Snake Wolfer]

Yeah... Nobody is gonna beat this game without it...

[NSKuber]

You cannot find it? It has indeed been moved to the outside, precisely because in regular BFE it was not so trivial to find.

[Serious Snake Wolfer]

Let me take a look again

[Solais]

Look behind you.

[Serious Snake Wolfer]

I saw LOL. How in the hell did i not see it? i'm such a klutz.

[tim.doherty]

First time in 2011 I didn't find and googled before looking properly

[Brenders Tarvik]

Originally posted by tim.doherty:

First time in 2011 I didn't find and googled before looking properly

Yeah the last boss wasn't exactly self-explanatory. I had to google what to do as well because at this point, who would expect jet packs in a SS game? And then figuring out that you have to pick up rods and throw them at the boss' back when he's fighting the sand worm?

[Seriously Stupid]

Originally posted by GrandSecgend:

It's unfortunate that they had to dumb it down just because idiots can't bother exploring.

As a certified Professional Idiot, I take offense to this.

[babbygremlin]

Originally posted by GrandSecgend:

It's unfortunate that they had to dumb it down just because idiots can't bother exploring.

what is your damage with everyone who's not yourself

[Spaghettacus]

Hilariously inflated ego I presume.

[Soulmyr]

You're coming into this as someone who's probably played Serious Sam 3 at least a dozen times.

Imagine being a new player. Imagine going through Guardian of Time, which can be pretty tedious,and then dying repeatedly to a boss because you couldn't find something you didn't know you were supposed to look for. THEN there's the matter of throwing the rods into Ugh-Zan's back, which you can't do when he's shooting at you, so you need to wait for him to pick a fight with the Dune worm, then know to pick up a rod and throw it on his back.

[Soulmyr]

Well it kind of is the game's fault as well.

All the other bosses have been a matter of "Shoot this thing until it dies". Then suddenly you're introduce to TWO new mechanics - the jetpacks and the rods, without ANY explanation or hint.

Since the jetpack is now out in the open, maybe the cutscene could be altered so that Sam says something "Let's fly" or "Up up and away with your ugly ass" Hey I'm not a writer, just a suggestion .

Dunno how you could hint with the rods though. Maybe "Let's try some acupuncture" or something.

[Rokk]

Originally posted by GrandSecgend:

Good point, but didn't we all experience this when we first played it? I sure did, died a bunch of times.

Still, that was *my own* fault, not game's.

Some things are the game's fault, and some things are your own fault.

Originally posted by GrandSecgend:

But that's how old-school FPSs are supposed to work.

The really old FPS games were confusing as ♥♥♥♥, I'm glad we got over that actually. I'm sure any old-school FPS player will know the frustration of scouring the same level for over an hour, looking for a particular item or exit.

[Solais]

It's not dumbing down. It was a bad placement.

[Spaghettacus]

Originally posted by Soulmyr:

Well it kind of is the game's fault as well.

All the other bosses have been a matter of "Shoot this thing until it dies". Then suddenly you're introduce to TWO new mechanics - the jetpacks and the rods, without ANY explanation or hint.

Since the jetpack is now out in the open, maybe the cutscene could be altered so that Sam says something "Let's fly" or "Up up and away with your ugly ass" Hey I'm not a writer, just a suggestion .

Dunno how you could hint with the rods though. Maybe "Let's try some acupuncture" or something.

I like this but can they get John J. ♥♥♥♥♥ to do new lines?

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Pretty Good:

Originally posted by Soulmyr:

Well it kind of is the game's fault as well.

All the other bosses have been a matter of "Shoot this thing until it dies". Then suddenly you're introduce to TWO new mechanics - the jetpacks and the rods, without ANY explanation or hint.

Since the jetpack is now out in the open, maybe the cutscene could be altered so that Sam says something "Let's fly" or "Up up and away with your ugly ass" Hey I'm not a writer, just a suggestion .

Dunno how you could hint with the rods though. Maybe "Let's try some acupuncture" or something.

I like this but can they get John J. ♥♥♥♥♥ to do new lines?

Probably. He's not exactly a hard guy to find.