Necron Overlord is NOT Over powered

[Khalagar]

I'm seeing a lot of misinformation about him. Especially people bragging about beating Last Stand with him at level 9 and such.

He's not over powered, he starts out with most of his best gear and gets everything good really early.

The difference between a level 9 Necron Lord and a level 20 one is almost nothing. So 3 Necron Lords beating Last Stand at level 8 or 9 is the same thing as 3 level 20 Tau / Sorc / Tyrants etc beating Last Stand. It's not really un heard of or rare.

When you compare him to the other top tier heroes like Sorc or Tyrant or Tau he's not over powered, he's just a different playstyle. He's strong, he adds a lot to the team, but they are still just as good and add a lot to a team.

He wrecks on Anvil because Anvil is just vastly easier. It has more big units, but they are still easier in general. The wave 20 on Anvil is a joke compared to BC, and wave 16 on BC will crush most teams. Necron is all about Single target which is 90% of Anvil so he does destroy that one with ease.

Necron Overlord has a lot of strengths, he's stupidly tanky and does good damage to single targets, but he's weak to hordes and is slow, and is weak to suppression. He also makes Wave 16 INCREDIBLY hard if you don't land your AOE stun and if you don't have Void Reaper.

If you go for a different build than Void Reaper stun you are going to make 16 nigh on unbeatable, and 20 is pretty much an auto loss if he has resurrection orb.


He's pretty balanced when you compare him to other level 20's, the only problem I have with him is that all of his best gear is super low level so people don't realize that a level 5 Necron Lord is more like a level 15 version of the other characters. He caps out fast though as he spends most of his levels gaining stuff he won't use

[SanityImpaired]

None of the other heroes can have 75% damage reduction from armour, 190 health, +5 passive health regen, fearless, unshakable, do huge amounts of melee damage which bypasses 200 armour, and have amazing crowd control. All at the same time.

Look at the individual pieces. One piece of gear gives +90 health and +3 health regen. How can you honestly say that's comparable to the captain, who needs two pieces of gear to get +75 health and 1.5 regen?

Oh, and every possible weapon they get is good in melee and has armour piercing. Even their default weapon has it.

The problem is that the Overlord gets more bonuses per piece of gear than other heroes, and in many cases the bonuses are higher as well.

That OLs make wave 16 and 20 of BC harder is a demonstration that they're overpowered. It's an argument against you, not one in your favour.

[Khalagar]

Originally posted by SanityImpaired:

None of the other heroes can have 75% damage reduction from armour, 190 health, +5 passive health regen, fearless, unshakable, do huge amounts of melee damage which bypasses 200 armour, and have amazing crowd control. All at the same time.

No, but the other heroes can have mobility + the ability to instantly clear a wave, or tankiness + the ability to clear a wave, or mobility + tankiness + decent damage etc.

The trade of for Necron Lord is that he's slower than snot and his mobility move is garbage and his wave clear is terrible. All he has is that AOE life steal that drains his mana extremely fast.

Your entire post is talking about his durability is the best in the game, which it is. Because he's a tank.

He's literally an anti-armor tank. Put him in a horde of 50 warp spiders and he goes down before he can fight back. He can try and life steal a small group around him but it's nearly big enough to reach all the ranged ones.

Especially not when he's suppressed by the toilet seat weapon platforms and can't walk.


Also, why are you only comparing him to Captain? Compare him to Tyrant and Mekboy instead as both are tanks and both have armor that's pretty similar to Necron's. They aren't *quite* as tanky, but are not far behind at all.


When it comes to tanking he's the best, but tank Mekboy and tank Tyrant are not far behind at all. They are both nearly unkillable with the right build too. Only tank Hive Tyrant can clear hordes with ease. Mekboy is about the same where he has no mobility and no wave clear, the difference is Necron Overlord can kill vehicles and Mekboy can't.

[Metharius]

Originally posted by SanityImpaired:

None of the other heroes can have 75% damage reduction from armour, 190 health, +5 passive health regen, fearless, unshakable, do huge amounts of melee damage which bypasses 200 armour, and have amazing crowd control. All at the same time.

Look at the individual pieces. One piece of gear gives +90 health and +3 health regen. How can you honestly say that's comparable to the captain, who needs two pieces of gear to get +75 health and 1.5 regen?

Oh, and every possible weapon they get is good in melee and has armour piercing. Even their default weapon has it.

The problem is that the Overlord gets more bonuses per piece of gear than other heroes, and in many cases the bonuses are higher as well.

That OLs make wave 16 and 20 of BC harder is a demonstration that they're overpowered. It's an argument against you, not one in your favour.

dude when i start playing retribution (when i was kind of forced to leave DOW II vanilla)
EVERY HERO became A JOKE.
armor of idranel (seriously wtf is this ?! )

tau commander, hive tyrant perma shield etc ...

you are saying he is OP ?

finish BC and let s hear you .

pro tips it s 100 time harder than with any other hero...

farseer with conseal/confuse SOLO both maps.

so yea, here you have the possibility to have a full braindead super tanky near unkillable necron ...
good for you but your clone will be just as much difficult to manage as no skill will be requiered. (#ThingsBotLove ²² )

because it s just basic atk all day just like a bot. it s fun but don t even consider picking him for BC if not in real team or you ll lose


²² now if you excuse me i ll kill myself for using hashtag in a sentence ...

[griimble]

We actually beat Last Stand on Lvl 2 with him :)

[Metharius]

also dont forget AoK is only used to level up hero as the wave get cleased faster and are much easier.

the real challenge is wave 20 (and w16 if you play necron. because with any other character it s not that difficult and i went wave 20 with lvl 3 tau commanders)

edit: in TLS hero dont get LEVELS they get RANK . level would imply they get stronger (like increased stats).

[Khalagar]

Originally posted by griimble:

We actually beat Last Stand on Lvl 2 with him :)

He starts with several good items right off the bat. 3 level 1 Necron lords is pretty similar to like 3 level 15-16 of most other characters because of the amount of good stuff he has access to immediately.

[Durandal]

considering my friends got a taem of 3 of about 3 necron overlords and cleared the anvil with only lvl 12 necrons, YES he is op

[Khalagar]

Originally posted by ∾PoP∾ Talos <2nd Mag Templi>:

considering my friends got a taem of 3 of about 3 necron overlords and cleared the anvil with only lvl 12 necrons, YES he is op

This has been addressed like 20 times an hour. Anvil is easier in general especially for Necron Overlord who is good at single target damage against high armor targets.

Level with him doesn't matter, he starts with his best gear and has Best in Slot gear by like level 8. A level 20 Necron is literally the EXACT same as a level 7 or 8 one.

You could rephrase your statement to say 3 level 20 Necrons beat Anvil and it would be the exact same

[Sifer2]

Honestly the only balanced heroes were the original 3. Everyone they added after that were a lot more powerful with less teamwork needed IMO. As for the Overlord. So far he still doesn't seem stronger than the Invincible Miasma Hive Tyrant to me. Which isn't saying much as invincible Miasma Hive Tyrant is way broken. Like mentioned Overlord just starts out with the ability to be an uber tank at low levels where as Mekboy or Hive Tyrant have to work for it.

[Red Paragon]

Guys, he's not OP. The reason why it seems that way is literally because your only playing necron teams. If you had a weak farseer and a sorcerer, they would rely on you to draw fire and die. I'm level 20, so that's like 70 rounds of last stand and I never got non all necron teams.

Eventually, me and my friends started playing different races with the necron and it's a bit harder.

Once again, full necron team = generally 3 tanks, no mage necrons. No wonder why it's easy...

[Dodokh]

off topic a little bit ....... anyone unlock the necron " Lord of Risen Doom " , any tips ?

[feral paddy ape]

If you think the nec has poor AOE, you're either deluded or stupid. The drain ability is some of the best AOE in the entire game. It just requires you to actually be smart and stack the wave as a group so you can nuke the entire thing down in about 5 seconds.

[Red Paragon]

Originally posted by Dodokh:

off topic a little bit ....... anyone unlock the necron " Lord of Risen Doom " , any tips ?

Get a team together, tell them to wear no armor and use mage staffs, then, tell them to die together on wave 9 by suppression, repeat

[Red Paragon]

Originally posted by ლ(ಠ益ಠლ):

If you think the nec has poor AOE, you're either deluded or stupid. The drain ability is some of the best AOE in the entire game. It just requires you to actually be smart and stack the wave as a group so you can nuke the entire thing down in about 5 seconds.

Doesn't work very well against vehicles.

P.s. sorry had to reply with two comments, I'm on my phone and don't know how to reply in the same comment.

[feral paddy ape]

Originally posted by VenoKnight:

Doesn't work very well against vehicles.

Why the hell do you need to AOE vehicles