Necrons vs Tyranids who would win?

[MTV]

Who do you think would win in a hypothetical fight? I don't think they have fought in the lore.

I think the Necrons would crush the Tyranids. The Necrons are essentialy robo-zombies and the Tyranids are designed to consume all life.

What are your thoughts on this?

[My What]

Pretty sure that Tyranids found a way to consume necrodermis, although its a slow and painful process, but still, Tyranids tend to steer away from Necrons since most of the awake ones live on dead worlds, and they don't really feed the belly

In a straight up fight, Necrons would win if they employed their doomsday weapons, convetional units, Tyranids would win, being my belief
*OH and tyranids won't be able to produce many units, relying almost exclusively on the biomass they nommed from previous worlds, so hive fleet size matters a bunch!

[Malaficus Shaikan]

The thing about the tyranids is that they outnumber the necrons a thousent to one, if not more.
We dont know the full size of the tyranid swarm.

In an even numbers fight the necrons hold all the cards.
There guns deny biomass and there very very very hard to kill.
Also C'tan shards.

The tyranids think like a preditor.
They will look for prey.
Necrons arent prey, there a threat.
Tyranids will only fight necrons to defend themself.

A single ant isnt much of a threat.
But several billion can eat a human.
It isnt easy but it is possible.
And unlike ants the tyranids match the necrons in firepower and armor but they vastly outnumber the necrons.

In short:
Any fight against the tyranids is a question of numbers.
Do the tyranids have the numbers to overwhelm the necrons?

Remember fighting necrons is from a tyranid point of view like a lion trying to fight a gun.
Even if you destroy it, you gain nothing from it.

[Syndicate._.]

Pretty hard to say, I mean in the end it's probably gonna be necrons vs tyranids anyways, cause tyranids either consume everything(except necrons,since they're not really biological) or necrons kill everything and leave nothing to consume. Granted the nids are many, but only god knows how many crons actually exist, I believe the lore said just a minority has awoken yet and they already cause havoc.Honestly I think crons would win straight up, doomsday weapons have that name for a reason and they are basically regarded as "death", no one defeats death. Also if they somehow manage to get the nightbringers scythe back it's gg.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Syndicate:

Pretty hard to say, I mean in the end it's probably gonna be necrons vs tyranids anyways, cause tyranids either consume everything(except necrons,since they're not really biological) or necrons kill everything and leave nothing to consume. Granted the nids are many, but only god knows how many crons actually exist, I believe the lore said just a minority has awoken yet and they already cause havoc.Honestly I think crons would win straight up, doomsday weapons have that name for a reason and they are basically regarded as "death", no one defeats death. Also if they somehow manage to get the nightbringers scythe back it's gg.

That has been reconned :(
Now there eldar 2.0.
Strong but few in numbers.
All factions have doomday weapons.
Also gods beat death(or they woudnt be gods otherwise)
Admitly in most settings "gods" can die but even then they useally can revive the dead no problemo.

[Syndicate._.]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by Syndicate:

Pretty hard to say, I mean in the end it's probably gonna be necrons vs tyranids anyways, cause tyranids either consume everything(except necrons,since they're not really biological) or necrons kill everything and leave nothing to consume. Granted the nids are many, but only god knows how many crons actually exist, I believe the lore said just a minority has awoken yet and they already cause havoc.Honestly I think crons would win straight up, doomsday weapons have that name for a reason and they are basically regarded as "death", no one defeats death. Also if they somehow manage to get the nightbringers scythe back it's gg.

That has been reconned :(
Now there eldar 2.0.
Strong but few in numbers.
All factions have doomday weapons.
Also gods beat death(or they woudnt be gods otherwise)
Admitly in most settings "gods" can die but even then they useally can revive the dead no problemo.

i mean the emperor is dead, kinda. There is no tyranid god as far as i know, they're just a huge hive. Khorne pretty much dies when there's no more(when everybody is dead or got consumed), Khaine is basically khorne. Ork gods are kinda awkward, but I guess when there's nothing biological left there won't be any more orks either. What else is there, they killed the old ones already. I guess the only ones to oppose the nids or crons is chaos, just because Khorne is gonna be ridiculously strong due to all the war and death. I still think nobody's gonna be able to touch the crons even remotely as soon as they all awake and unify.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Syndicate:

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

That has been reconned :(
Now there eldar 2.0.
Strong but few in numbers.
All factions have doomday weapons.
Also gods beat death(or they woudnt be gods otherwise)
Admitly in most settings "gods" can die but even then they useally can revive the dead no problemo.

i mean the emperor is dead, kinda. There is no tyranid god as far as i know, they're just a huge hive. Khorne pretty much dies when there's no more(when everybody is dead or got consumed), Khaine is basically khorne. Ork gods are kinda awkward, but I guess when there's nothing biological left there won't be any more orks either. What else is there, they killed the old ones already. I guess the only ones to oppose the nids or crons is chaos, just because Khorne is gonna be ridiculously strong due to all the war and death. I still think nobody's gonna be able to touch the crons even remotely as soon as they all awake and unify.

My ideal forwarding of the story:
Tyranid main fleet shows up and every planet is under attack.
With there foodsource endangered chaos send there demon princes to fight off the tyranids.
The tau retreat to there homeworld and manage just in time to create a sheild that prevent invasions.
The eldar are birthing Ynnead.
The necrons are fighting the tyranids over who has the right to harvest/rule this galaxie.
And the orks are having the time of there lives.
The imperium seemed doomded.
However against all odds the eldar successed and Ynnead is born.
But while Ynnead could defeat slaanesh the other chaos gods dont want to see the eldar successed(Ynnead is a threat to them)
As the chaos gods are prepearing to fight Ynnead the golden throne fails.
Desperatly in need of allies Ynnead "helps" the emperor form into a full warp god.
Between the two of them the chaos gods are forced to retreat.
Togather they free Isha.
Cegorach grand play begin's.
The emperor returns to his people(via prophets as he is a warp entity now)
And with the aid of the eldar gods he succesfully fights off the chaos gods.
Humanity starts to believe in the god emperor and his generals(the eldar gods)
With the emperor ruling over the "lesser" gods.
As the warp makes believe real.
The god emperor is waging his eternal war along side his generals against chaos(eatch own 50% of the warp now)
The eldar rebirth has been hijackt by humanity and eldar are now reborn as "angels" of humanity.
Some eldar reject this outcome while other's embrace it.
Humanity starts fighting back alongside there new "angels".
But the tyranids arent easly defeated.
The force's of the new imperium make contact with the tau homeworld and togather they build a massive counter attack against the tyranids.
An alliance born from neccesty.

Short version:
All they need to do is have the tyranids launch there full invasion.
It would up the stakes and allow for so much story.
They could create 10.000 years worth of story just fighting off the tyranid invasion.

[post apocalypse otter boi]

Necrons because of the Aeonic orb. (go look that up.)

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Handicapped Kitten:

Necrons because of the Aeonic orb. (go look that up.)

Arent the necrons no longer able to build anything?
And isnt every loss inreplaceable?

[Syndicate._.]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by Syndicate:

i mean the emperor is dead, kinda. There is no tyranid god as far as i know, they're just a huge hive. Khorne pretty much dies when there's no more(when everybody is dead or got consumed), Khaine is basically khorne. Ork gods are kinda awkward, but I guess when there's nothing biological left there won't be any more orks either. What else is there, they killed the old ones already. I guess the only ones to oppose the nids or crons is chaos, just because Khorne is gonna be ridiculously strong due to all the war and death. I still think nobody's gonna be able to touch the crons even remotely as soon as they all awake and unify.

My ideal forwarding of the story:
Tyranid main fleet shows up and every planet is under attack.
With there foodsource endangered chaos send there demon princes to fight off the tyranids.
The tau retreat to there homeworld and manage just in time to create a sheild that prevent invasions.
The eldar are birthing Ynnead.
The necrons are fighting the tyranids over who has the right to harvest/rule this galaxie.
And the orks are having the time of there lives.
The imperium seemed doomded.
However against all odds the eldar successed and Ynnead is born.
But while Ynnead could defeat slaanesh the other chaos gods dont want to see the eldar successed(Ynnead is a threat to them)
As the chaos gods are prepearing to fight Ynnead the golden throne fails.
Desperatly in need of allies Ynnead "helps" the emperor form into a full warp god.
Between the two of them the chaos gods are forced to retreat.
Togather they free Isha.
Cegorach grand play begin's.
The emperor returns to his people(via prophets as he is a warp entity now)
And with the aid of the eldar gods he succesfully fights off the chaos gods.
Humanity starts to believe in the god emperor and his generals(the eldar gods)
With the emperor ruling over the "lesser" gods.
As the warp makes believe real.
The god emperor is waging his eternal war along side his generals against chaos(eatch own 50% of the warp now)
The eldar rebirth has been hijackt by humanity and eldar are now reborn as "angels" of humanity.
Some eldar reject this outcome while other's embrace it.
Humanity starts fighting back alongside there new "angels".
But the tyranids arent easly defeated.
The force's of the new imperium make contact with the tau homeworld and togather they build a massive counter attack against the tyranids.
An alliance born from neccesty.

Short version:
All they need to do is have the tyranids launch there full invasion.
It would up the stakes and allow for so much story.
They could create 10.000 years worth of story just fighting off the tyranid invasion.

I don't think any eldar god would accept being "lesser", especially compared to the emperor, they're just way too proud for that,+ they are way too smart and foreseeing to get cucked by humanity. Same goes for the Tau, what in the world would make you ally with somebody that literally just allied with somebody else and betrayed them just a bit ago. Also, with all that death and war around I got the feeling that nobody would be able to compete with khorne atall. Dude get stronger with every death, there's just way more power khorne gets than the emperor just because of the sheer number of kills, you can have all the faith you want but you just can't match that. Aswell as, I still don't believe the nids could beat the crons.

[post apocalypse otter boi]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by Handicapped Kitten:

Necrons because of the Aeonic orb. (go look that up.)

Arent the necrons no longer able to build anything?
And isnt every loss inreplaceable?

Idk bit from what I understand they still have some aeonic orbs. They're just really rare.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Syndicate:

I don't think any eldar god would accept being "lesser", especially compared to the emperor, they're just way too proud for that,+ they are way too smart and foreseeing to get cucked by humanity. Same goes for the Tau, what in the world would make you ally with somebody that literally just allied with somebody else and betrayed them just a bit ago. Also, with all that death and war around I got the feeling that nobody would be able to compete with khorne atall. Dude get stronger with every death, there's just way more power khorne gets than the emperor just because of the sheer number of kills, you can have all the faith you want but you just can't match that. Aswell as, I still don't believe the nids could beat the crons.

1:I already explaind why the eldar gods would accept it.
The warp makes what is believed real.
The eldar gods woudnt be eldar gods anymore they would be human gods.
I am not talking about it happening instantly but over the courses of centuries.
Ynnead is a do or die senario for the eldar.
If humanity hijack it there is nothing they can do about it.
And even the eldar farseers cant predict every outcome despite us claiming otherwise.
The art of divination is insanely complex.
To quote arch warhammer:
It is like trying to find a grain of sand in a continete spaning desert that keeps exanding.

2:The tau dont have the manpower to fight the tyranids main force.
Helping the imperium would benefit them.
At best the imperium wins and is too weak to prevent being conquered.
At worst the imperium wins and forcefull intergrate the tau into there empire.
Both are prefeerable to the certian death that would await them at the hands of the tyranids.
Keep in mind that the tyranid main invasion would attack every planet in the galaxie at the same time.
That is one hell of a motivator to work with anyone.

3: Shadow in the warp would weaken the chaos gods(part of the reason why Ynnead succesed in the fist place)
Most of khorn's power would be spend fighting off the tyranids along with the rest of chaos.
Ynnead is anoying but the tyranid swarm is deadly.

4: The only way my senario would work is if the tyranids are a big enough threat to everyone that it is a mather of the enemy of my enemy.

[Darzok]

The Necrons win hands down so hard it would be kind of sad how badly the Nids would lose but it would never happen as the Nids go out of there way to avoid the Necrons.

Gauss weapons destroy things at an atomic level there is no defence other than to not be hit in the first place and its unkown if even Void shields could block it or not.

That allows the Necrons to rip Nids apart at the atomic level and so be unable to recover that Bio mass most likely ending up using more Bio mass to make units that could be recoverd if the fight lasts long enough.

If you take it in to space the Necron space fleet lore wise is GOD mode unstopable able to just stomp any thing stupid or unlucky enough to be in the way.

Necrons all so warp out when bodys are damaged past there own self repair so no Necron is ever killed just gone warps off for repairs to come back and fight again.

There is no real war tho Nids would just avoid the Necrons like they all ready do the Newcrons have no reason to stop the Nids. The Oldcrons might step in to stop all life been wiped out so the C`tan can still feed.