Why do people hate ultra marines/Matt ward?

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

I've heard of hate for both the ultra mar and who ever Matt ward is

Why is that?

[Salty Slothy]

Matt Ward was a writer for the fluff and did some other stuff I’m not familiar with.
Imagine you’re watching power rangers. Blue ranger shows up and for the whole season ROFLstomps every bad guy out there while acting like a tool. Also the bad guys are hilariously poorly written and do truly nonsensical things that are largely out of character.

Now apply said concept to warhammer. But if you think people hate the smurfs that much let’s talk about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grey knights.

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Matt Ward was a writer for the fluff and did some other stuff I’m not familiar with.
Imagine you’re watching power rangers. Blue ranger shows up and for the whole season ROFLstomps every bad guy out there while acting like a tool. Also the bad guys are hilariously poorly written and do truly nonsensical things that are largely out of character.

Now apply said concept to warhammer. But if you think people hate the smurfs that much let’s talk about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grey knights.

:l so I'm guessing he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up lore?

[Jimmi Stixx]

Ahhh, yes. Gray Knights. 40k's Russian nesting marines. They are a Marine with a monk jammed in their sphincter. With an inquisitor jammed in the monk and another marine jammed in the inquisitor for good measure.

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by Aaron Rodgers:

Ahhh, yes. Gray Knights. 40k's Russian nesting marines. They are a Marine with a monk jammed in their sphincter. With an inquisitor jammed in the monk and another marine jammed in the inquisitor for good measure. :bolter:

:l what

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Matt Ward was a writer for the fluff and did some other stuff I’m not familiar with.
Imagine you’re watching power rangers. Blue ranger shows up and for the whole season ROFLstomps every bad guy out there while acting like a tool. Also the bad guys are hilariously poorly written and do truly nonsensical things that are largely out of character.

Now apply said concept to warhammer. But if you think people hate the smurfs that much let’s talk about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grey knights.

:l so I'm guessing he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up lore?

To explain how dumb his lore was I’m going to tell you a story.
One day the blood angels were purging Xenos in the name of the emperor like good space marines. But these Xenos were special. They were the tyranids who somehow got really far past where they were originally spotted at the current time period. These tyranids were very good at kicking space marine ass, so good in fact that the local tomb world decided that these tyranids needed to be purged in the name of the emperor... I mean in the name of the ctan.
The Necrons team up with the blood angels to destroy a common enemy as the Necrons in question looked at the system as their property. Well together they win and get ready to kill each other. Instead they essentially share a fist bump then both leave.

[Aerofare the Deranged Daedalist]

It's explained quite colourfully here, I believe:

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward

Check out the 'Why does /tg/ hate this guy so much?' part.

Also, 'https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Khornate_Knights

Edit: Oh, come on, they censor part of the link. Anyways, the missing bit just in case it wasn't obvious is 4 c h a n without the spaces. ^^

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

:l so I'm guessing he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up lore?

To explain how dumb his lore was I’m going to tell you a story.
One day the blood angels were purging Xenos in the name of the emperor like good space marines. But these Xenos were special. They were the tyranids who somehow got really far past where they were originally spotted at the current time period. These tyranids were very good at kicking space marine ass, so good in fact that the local tomb world decided that these tyranids needed to be purged in the name of the emperor... I mean in the name of the ctan.
The Necrons team up with the blood angels to destroy a common enemy as the Necrons in question looked at the system as their property. Well together they win and get ready to kill each other. Instead they essentially share a fist bump then both leave.

...just why

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

To explain how dumb his lore was I’m going to tell you a story.
One day the blood angels were purging Xenos in the name of the emperor like good space marines. But these Xenos were special. They were the tyranids who somehow got really far past where they were originally spotted at the current time period. These tyranids were very good at kicking space marine ass, so good in fact that the local tomb world decided that these tyranids needed to be purged in the name of the emperor... I mean in the name of the ctan.
The Necrons team up with the blood angels to destroy a common enemy as the Necrons in question looked at the system as their property. Well together they win and get ready to kill each other. Instead they essentially share a fist bump then both leave.

...just why

And the biggest issue isn’t even the Necrons working with humans. Necrons aren’t entirely mindless and will help people out if it benefits them. It’s the execution of the whole debacle. But even that’s not as retarded as the single marine who broke the grey knights: Kaldor Draigo.

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

...just why

And the biggest issue isn’t even the Necrons working with humans. Necrons aren’t entirely mindless and will help people out if it benefits them. It’s the execution of the whole debacle. But even that’s not as retarded as the single marine who broke the grey knights: Kaldor Draigo.

....how the ♥♥♥♥?

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

And the biggest issue isn’t even the Necrons working with humans. Necrons aren’t entirely mindless and will help people out if it benefits them. It’s the execution of the whole debacle. But even that’s not as retarded as the single marine who broke the grey knights: Kaldor Draigo.

....how the ♥♥♥♥?

Are you familiar with the concept of a daemon prince as well as a Primarch?

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

....how the ♥♥♥♥?

Are you familiar with the concept of a daemon prince as well as a Primarch?

Yes absolutely

I know theres also "prime orks"

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Are you familiar with the concept of a daemon prince as well as a Primarch?

Yes absolutely

I know theres also "prime orks"

that's a whole other topic. ♥♥♥♥ the beast was a weird time.

Anyways Kaldor Draigo managed to tear out the heart of a daemon primarch named Mortarion then carve the name of the previous grandmaster into it before banishing him back to the warp. He also just freely runs about the warp like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who doesn't obey the established rules of the setting.

[Leravi The Hyena:33]

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Yes absolutely

I know theres also "prime orks"

that's a whole other topic. ♥♥♥♥ the beast was a weird time.

Anyways Kaldor Draigo managed to tear out the heart of a daemon primarch named Mortarion then carve the name of the previous grandmaster into it before banishing him back to the warp. He also just freely runs about the warp like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who doesn't obey the established rules of the setting.

....I'm just...speechless

[Devil Tiger]

Hahahaha i can't believe steam forums auto censor the word " 4 c h a n " that's hilarious and yeah let us not forget the grey knights using sisters of battle to paint their armour.

[Lack of Stuff]

Originally posted by conor.r.foley moat.gg:

Originally posted by The original slothy bastard:

Matt Ward was a writer for the fluff and did some other stuff I’m not familiar with.
Imagine you’re watching power rangers. Blue ranger shows up and for the whole season ROFLstomps every bad guy out there while acting like a tool. Also the bad guys are hilariously poorly written and do truly nonsensical things that are largely out of character.

Now apply said concept to warhammer. But if you think people hate the smurfs that much let’s talk about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grey knights.

:l so I'm guessing he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up lore?

To put it plainly many people dislike narrative Mary Sues, Matt Ward is not among those people.