Game had potential, but...

[Dr. Atrocious]

The controls are a joke and makes the game harder than it actually is and/or needs to be.

"Hey, need rocket ammo that's just right there on the ledge to kill the boss? Just do a small bit of platforming to get it." Well oops, just died because I overjumped the box a few times.

"Oh, there's a drone in the sky shooting at you, shoot back!" I freaking am but the guy won't shoot up!

"There's a turret shooting you from a ledge and you need to walk on a thin walk-way to get to it. No problem!" Damn it.. Fell off because I walked backwards while trying to turn. Why can't I just shoot him from where I am? Oh, because DASH RENDAR(!!!) can't aim up.

Anyway, just a small rant because it's a damn shame and I really wanted to get into this game. And no, it's not a review because I haven't really played enough to properly review the game (not that I "properly" review games to begin with). Feelsbadman.

May the 4th be with you...

[Kietan]

Refund it then.

[Dr. Atrocious]

It was just $4. Who knows, I might try it again one of these days. Maybe even tomorrow during the Revenge of the 5th.

[Kietan]

haha. it'd probably work best if you could dig out a Nintendo 64 controller.

[GinkoBiloba]

It is a Nintendo 64 game. Still have to try on PC, but I had no problems on my 64 back in the day.
Some N64 games are known to only have good controls on the original console... this may be one of them.

[EATGREEPS]

agreed heavily modded xbox controller config didnt even cut it.. only thing i can really think of is getting a usb n64 controller

[Uncle Rico]

This game was awesome back on N64

[Gamephreak5]

Agreed. The game was really made for the N64's controller, and the devs didn't think about how the game would be played when they ported it to PC originally back in '97. I mean, there was no other PC game out at that time that was like it, now that I think about it.

Shadows of the Empire combined 3 different genres to make it's gameplay whole: Flight Simulator, FPS, and Racer. Most PC games at the time were either one or the other, never a combination of 2 or more. In that aspect, the game was highly ambitious on top of already lofty ambitions from George Lucas and LucasArts (Essentially create the 4th Star Wars movie without actually making a movie from 3 different forms of media: SotE Comic series, N64 game, and a SotE Cinematic Orchestral Soundtrack made for a phantom film that didn't exist).

I don't envy the guy who tried to make all those genres control seamlessly on PC...they hadn't even come up with a control standard for FPS games yet!

[Colledge]

Controlls a perfect just set the Buttons right

[Tau Settee]

Originally posted by Colledge:

Controlls a perfect just set the Buttons right

Agreed. Sounds like the OP hadn't found the "aim" control in order to shoot up (it's still tricky even then).

I'm slowly working on the controls by using different "Action Sets" for the different genres of level (so far I have SnowSpeeder, Walking, and Gun Turret). I'm also trying to create icons for the Virtual Menu that I am creating to select the relevant Action Set for my current level. I'm just trying to get the hang of the jetpack...

[omegablue0231]

Hey OP you realize the game has auto aim right? Just fire at enemies. Stop screaming "WHY CAN'T I AM!" and just shoot. As long as it's on screen Dash will eventually shoot at it if you just spam the fire button.

[Dr. Atrocious]

Originally posted by omegablue0231:

Hey OP you realize the game has auto aim right? Just fire at enemies. Stop screaming "WHY CAN'T I AM!" and just shoot. As long as it's on screen Dash will eventually shoot at it if you just spam the fire button.

Notice this thread is 7 years old? Not only do I not remember what my problem with the game was, but I also do not care. I'll be unsubscribing from this thread.

Adios, necrophiles!

[Black Hole]

Yeah thats quite a necro....oh wait thats all this forum is anymore.

Game was fun in its time but is trash today.

[The Rotten]

I'm also replying to an old post for no reason.

[CheeseSlice]

Yep, the controls are horrible. Now imaging trying to play it on the original N64 hardware with that horrible controller. I rented this once back in the 90s and couldn't play it at all. Glad I didn't buy it. I don't know how some people slogged through this back in the day. This game needs a remaster that updates it with modern controls. It's a shame they didn't fix that with the PC port.
I'm trying to slog through with modified Mouse and Keyboard, but even that has issues since the mouse moves you back and forward.

[DankHillCometh]

Originally posted by Dr. Atrocious:

The controls are a joke and makes the game harder than it actually is and/or needs to be.

"Hey, need rocket ammo that's just right there on the ledge to kill the boss? Just do a small bit of platforming to get it." Well oops, just died because I overjumped the box a few times.

"Oh, there's a drone in the sky shooting at you, shoot back!" I freaking am but the guy won't shoot up!

"There's a turret shooting you from a ledge and you need to walk on a thin walk-way to get to it. No problem!" Damn it.. Fell off because I walked backwards while trying to turn. Why can't I just shoot him from where I am? Oh, because DASH RENDAR(!!!) can't aim up.

Anyway, just a small rant because it's a damn shame and I really wanted to get into this game. And no, it's not a review because I haven't really played enough to properly review the game (not that I "properly" review games to begin with). Feelsbadman.

May the 4th be with you...

It's ok youre just not the guy and never will be.