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I bounced off the first game pretty hard in the midgame but eventually got to like it through the ending. I say this because the second game is going to spoil the first game's ending right away, and not that you can't play it before the first game, but I feel like how well you enjoy the second game's plot kind of depends on how you feel about the main revelation from Pillars 1? It was my favourite part, personally, and I really like the central philosophical questions that come up in discussion with POE 2's main antagonist. I feel like if you liked KOTOR2 or Mask of the Betrayer, you'll get something out of this.
The relationship mechanics are a lot more transparent than in the first game, and they will let you know how they feel about your decisions, during dialogue and as their meters rise. You can romance most of the companions.
Last piece of advice for the second game -- don't speed through the main plot, the meat of the game is in the faction conflict, and the factions also form strong opinions of you based on your choices.
POE1's writing style is too complex,too abstract,talked too much on philosophy instead of focusing the story,but POE2's writing style is way easier to understand,and it focus on how the plot develops,so you will feel more story content in dialogues.
Besides i have just beaten POE1 and i didn't trigger any love scene.I don't know if dev have made love scene or not.But POE2 you do can get a romantic relationship with your teammate.I spend a complete romantic relationship with Miya during my last save.
And when it comes to their opinions on what you do....POE1 have already made it so..Yes in POE2 teammates also got their on opinions.
And to your last question...i do beat POE2 earlier than POE1,but there do have a lot of things i can't understand in my first run.You do need to know some concepts and how the story goes probably in POE1 if you want to have a nice POE2 round.
...BTW why don't you consider Baldur's Gate 3,it will surely satisfy your wishes.
Don't get me wrong, 1 is a great game, but it took me a few tries to get through it and for it to actually hook me. 1 has way more descriptive dialog fluff that I find myself skipping or skimming through.
2 is a lot less filler stuff, all voiced dialog if that matters to you, more streamlined and innovative combat and stat system, and just overall more fun gameplay itself.
It might sound ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but I like it when companions are romanceable, I am like that, no hate please, lol.
About BG3: I got over 500 hours in that one. ;) I play/played a lot of immersive turn based RPGs but I am always on the look-out for more.
PoE2 really doesn't grab me. I have recently started a new run of PoE2, but man... I just can't force myself to play it. It just has no hook.
If you haven't yet (you probably did tho) check out the Pathfinder games. Much better than this.
Also, something most people don't recommend that often, but the Wastland games are pretty good. I know Wasteland 2 got some flak form people, but Wasteland 3 seems to have a very good rep. I was personally a backer for it as well, and from what I played so far of it, I like it more than any of the PoE titles.
I played Pathfinder: Kingmaker for like 10 hours or so and it was great until it kind of turned into a weird management system and I somehow lost interest the moment you got that fortress. Wrath of the Rightous... is technically on my Wishlist but I somehow never felt the urge to try it. Same for Tyranny (I am bad at playing bad guys, lol).
Wasteland was a game I was excited about cause a friend of mine worked as digital artist on Wasteland 3 and I really wanted to see his designs but honestly, I can not identify with the characters I played and that's why it got boring very fast. They had no personality and the two dudes I created, even with their backstory, were just blant figures that didn't let me RP.
Turnbased games I enjoyed and played:
BG1-3, Expedition: Rome and Viking, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Divinity OS1 and 2 (to be fair: only played in Multiplayer), DA1-3. They all gave me the opporturnity to actual roleplay, have interesting companions with a soul and opinion and everything I ask for.
Like I mentioned, PoE1 didn't really catch me but due to what was said here, I got PoE2 now and just started the game.
(somebody tell me please I can smooch Edér this time...)
It's just an epic adventure, that takes you litteraly all the way to hell (well kinda, to Abyss, which isn't Devil teritory, but still, pretty much hell) and back.
I would put it up there with the likes of BG2 and Fallout 2. Really great game.
And the Kingdom Management system from Kingmaker, the one you didn't like and me neither, is not longer anywhere to be found. Upgrades all around.
Kingmaker has a strong ending and I think Wrath is honestly fantastic, but I don't think that means you shouldn't play POE2. Seems like it's pretty divisive, but it's a favourite of mine. Some people don't get into the faction conflict or Eothas's questioning of the nature of belief? And I can't do much for them. It's the main thing I liked about the first game, and Wrath and BG and any of these games, tbh. Diff'rent strokes for different folks, I guess.
That's cool. And good to know. I prefer (as P&P player too) 5e to Pathfinder system though aaaaand I honestly doubt anything comes close to BG3 for me but it doesn't have to.
Wrath looks very overwhelming, I won't lie, this is what kept me so far from playing. I'm all in for possibilities regarding classes and races but... man.
Nooo whyyyy arrrrg sad.
Well so far the beginning of PoE2 feels more promising than the one of PoE1 and it also looks really nice and I made this funny green dude now and even though I didn't play PoE1 really far, I still suddenly remember parts of the story, haha. It wasn't hard to reconnect.
You can romance most companions but Eder is not one of them. He can romance two of the companions though if you don't romance them.
Curse you, Edér.
Tyranny is a older title in this 'race', but I think it holds up quite well. It's one of the better 'evil' centred RPG games. You also don't have to be outright evil, I went with a typical 'lawful evil' answer for everything. 100% try it.
I am not a fan of Pathfinder. I did play Wrath for over 80 hours. I just don't like a lot of things that are wrong with this game.
Playing without mods is like slowly pressing a knife inside you. You need to prebuff before every medium/big fight. But you can't just set A to Z spells to be cast, since you can't queue spells. So only mod that allows you to cast all the buffs at the same time is the ONLY solution.
A lot of spells are outright useless and don't even give you utility, the enemy will almost always resist. Enemies are always prebuffed(forever, with similar spells like yours, but infinite in duration) and their stats depend on difficulty you are choosing. I was enjoying core(hard) difficulty, until I wasn't, because if you don't know all the broken builds and weird interactions..you will struggle. "Oh I am sorry, you didn't make a multiclass X/Y build? You will not win."
At that point, I was starting to get annoyed with basic mechanics. Developers story solutions to your party 'Oh, you do like Woljif as your rogue? Say goodbye to him for X amount of time, because reasons, and when he comes back, even tho he went on an epic life changing adventure..he is exactly the same.' Which forced me to hire a random rogue to fill in the gaps, but all the expensive equipment that Woljif has..that's gone until he comes back :)
The game itself felt like a slog. Instead of fun challenges, it's annoying to deal mechanics. Swarms are idiotic to fight. Oh, you didn't buff yourself to the max? Try that 15 minutes fight again. You literally have to be lucky to win some fights.
Also, this - https://wolfsgamingblog.com/2023/07/27/fan-backlash-forces-owlcat-to-remove-new-data-gathering-tool-from-pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/
So I don't recommend this game. I think a lot of the solutions are childish and not very well thought through. The game that does it all is BG 3.
But I would still recommend trying Tyrrany or the next gen Planescape Torment that is - Torment: Tides of Numenera. Don't bother yourself with Wrath, I think it's lopsided experience.
Good companions imo, and there are romance options, to answer the OP's questions from this game, though.
Tyranny and Tides are both great. And you can always turn against Kyros' Empire in the former, that is a viable route.
I think it's one of the most obnoxious systems ever. I have 102 hours in it, ending chapter 3, crusade is fine, but lazy and lame copy pasted solution - I don't want to play this game again. This system combined with Owlcat great and horrible ideas, it just doesn't work for me and I love playing hard games on highest difficulties. As a hardcore RPG player, this dislike grew on me. Overall I think story is boring, crusade mode is just lazy copy-paste HoMM 3, fighting system is flawed, difficulty system is not well done, comparing basic vs high end builds there is too huge gap vs difficulty, enemies and basic systems like magic. Seriously. "Oh, you don't know you should multiclass into Z/X/Y and put all points into this?". ♥♥♥♥ that game and Owlcat and their Russian owners :)