One-handed Style + Weapon/Shield Style

[qewlaidman]

The qualifier for one-handed style is "while wielding a single one-handed weapon, gain x" and a shield is not a weapon.

So can I have both styles active while wielding a Weapon/Shield?

[Pirate King]

No.

[darkdrow12]

no, as far as i know the perk one handed style benefits from having JUST the weapon by itself equiped. To have to shield equiped will note you as weapon AND shield style.

however, if i am wrong please show me up :x as i hope what kool aid man brought to the table would be very fun to build upon.

hope this helps, please take care and have a good day.

[Drake]

Actually, shield is a considered a weapon. It even shows in the weapon filter in the stash and is part of weapon proficiencies. It's just not an offhand weapon (so won't trigger dual wield, unless the shield is considered dual wield valid, some shields have that) but a shield type weapon.

So equiping a shield will remove the single weapon style.

[Nimiria Nova]

Damn, so I did make some bad perk choices :( I gave my weapon/shield members that one handed perks...

[Pirate King]

Originally posted by Nimiria Nova:

Damn, so I did make some bad perk choices :( I gave my weapon/shield members that one handed perks...

Luckily you can retrain them at any vendor.

[Nimiria Nova]

Yes... I will respec them all I guess. But does that count for all of that perks? There are several things like making hits critical etc. - where can I see what perk will work with 1h + shield and what not?

[Drake]

Originally posted by Nimiria Nova:

Yes... I will respec them all I guess. But does that count for all of that perks? There are several things like making hits critical etc. - where can I see what perk will work with 1h + shield and what not?

There are only 3 things you need to watch out for :

1. those 4 style passives. They're the only ones, no other passive requires a style.
2. some passives only work on proficient weapons (so weapons you picked the modal skill on level up), so you need to read for that in the description before picking.
3. last but not least primary vs full attack in active skills. Primary attacks only use the main weapon, even while dual wielding. Full attacks do.

[Nimiria Nova]

Ah so its 2h style, weapon + shield, one handed and unarmed - those 4 do not stack? But the other thinks like when equpipped with a one handed weapon, you get XY bonus will stack?

[Keno]

none of those stack.

[Drake]

Unarmed is actually not a style. I was referring to dual wield. Unarmed is actually a weapon (one handed, and your proficient in it by default), and it counts as dual wield when both hands are empty, or weapo nand shield if you're only wearing a shield.

[qewlaidman]

Thank you!

[AXC629]

Originally posted by kool aid man:

The qualifier for one-handed style is "while wielding a single one-handed weapon, gain x" and a shield is not a weapon.

So can I have both styles active while wielding a Weapon/Shield?

I found myself saying the exact same thing BECAUSE of the way the ability is written. It is written poorly. A shield does in fact cost you your accuracey bonus.

maybe consider using a dagger and its specialized bonus. It adds 10 deflection but costs some of your dmg. But when u need deflection, losing the dmg is no big deal.

small sheild 4 def
medium shield 8 def -4 acc
large shield 12 def, -8 acc

dagger bonus when focused is 10 def but - some dmg.

You decide.

[Drake]

Yes, the dagger is the dual wield "shield" option. Which is actually accurate since that's how a parrying dagger is used, parrying and counter strike.