Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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Spell resist blocking my own buffs. Is it intended?
So I decided to Do Xoti's story and let her release the soul to the Adra pillar which gives me an upgrade for Spell Resist Aura.

But here's the problem. The spell resist aura ends up making MY OWN buffs whiff constantly while barely doing anything against enemies. Had Serafen Pain Block my squishy druid? My char just resisted Pain Block! Have Aloth uses Delexity to make spell casting faster? Aloth just resisted his own spell!

I'm about to throw her lantern away now because she's making my life way harder than it should be because my own buffs aren't working. Is this intended?
Last edited by Enfys Ellezard; May 10, 2018 @ 2:22am
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[__h.stickeye_] May 10, 2018 @ 2:23am 
Its just Obsidian humour. I learnt about how funny they are and how they do things like this to be funny. Its just their new approach to developing games, I guess we all have to be rational and not act like 2 yr olds so we dont have a temper tantrum to really appreicate the game.
Drake May 10, 2018 @ 2:24am 
That's strange. The only case where that would happen is if you're a mage slayer.
Enfys Ellezard May 10, 2018 @ 2:26am 
Originally posted by Sajah:
That's strange. The only case where that would happen is if you're a mage slayer.

Happens constantly so I have to equip shield instead now to prevent it from messing up my plan with random spell fail.

Edit: Just now, 2 near dead allies just resisted my own heals. RIP.
Last edited by Enfys Ellezard; May 10, 2018 @ 2:27am
Dmdtt May 12, 2018 @ 5:20pm 
i would love to know if this is an intended mechanic or a bug. i really wanna advance xoti's quest but if this intended it would alter how i go about the quest.
Enfys Ellezard May 12, 2018 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Dmdtt:
i would love to know if this is an intended mechanic or a bug. i really wanna advance xoti's quest but if this intended it would alter how i go about the quest.

There's an option to get +damage instead if you want which is WAayyYYy better. Or you can just do her quest and not upgrade the lantern with the given mat.
And hoping it's unintended becuase the tooltip in the talent for +spell resist states that it blocks "HOSTILE spells".
Dmdtt May 12, 2018 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:
Originally posted by Dmdtt:
i would love to know if this is an intended mechanic or a bug. i really wanna advance xoti's quest but if this intended it would alter how i go about the quest.

There's an option to get +damage instead if you want which is WAayyYYy better. Or you can just do her quest and not upgrade the lantern with the given mat.
And hoping it's unintended becuase the tooltip in the talent for +spell resist states that it blocks "HOSTILE spells".


its my understanding that how you do the quest alters which upgrade is avail. hence why i have stopped progressing it until i know if this is a bug or not.
Enfys Ellezard May 12, 2018 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Dmdtt:
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:

There's an option to get +damage instead if you want which is WAayyYYy better. Or you can just do her quest and not upgrade the lantern with the given mat.
And hoping it's unintended becuase the tooltip in the talent for +spell resist states that it blocks "HOSTILE spells".


its my understanding that how you do the quest alters which upgrade is avail. hence why i have stopped progressing it until i know if this is a bug or not.

THe choice of the quest will give you the item for the enchantment. The lantern won't upgrade right away. You have to do it yourself.
Dmdtt May 12, 2018 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:
Originally posted by Dmdtt:


its my understanding that how you do the quest alters which upgrade is avail. hence why i have stopped progressing it until i know if this is a bug or not.

THe choice of the quest will give you the item for the enchantment. The lantern won't upgrade right away. You have to do it yourself.

ive completed it multiple times now and depending on dialogue choices either the spell resistance or threshing aura is greyed out and cannot be enchanted. so you make your choice of which enchant around the time you wake her up from her nightmare right before you suggest releasing the souls
Enfys Ellezard May 12, 2018 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by Dmdtt:
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:

THe choice of the quest will give you the item for the enchantment. The lantern won't upgrade right away. You have to do it yourself.

ive completed it multiple times now and depending on dialogue choices either the spell resistance or threshing aura is greyed out and cannot be enchanted. so you make your choice of which enchant around the time you wake her up from her nightmare right before you suggest releasing the souls

After Xoti release the soul, you obtain Adra Fragment that can be used to either enchant the lantern with spell resist or damage aura based on quest result. The latern is not enchanted right away. You have to manually do it yourself. You can have Xoti still release soul to the Adra and not be affected by the terrible spell resist if you don't enchant the lantern with spell resist after the quest is done.
Last edited by Enfys Ellezard; May 12, 2018 @ 5:49pm
Dmdtt May 12, 2018 @ 5:56pm 
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:
Originally posted by Dmdtt:

ive completed it multiple times now and depending on dialogue choices either the spell resistance or threshing aura is greyed out and cannot be enchanted. so you make your choice of which enchant around the time you wake her up from her nightmare right before you suggest releasing the souls

After Xoti release the soul, you obtain Adra Fragment that can be used to either enchant the lantern with spell resist or damage aura based on quest result. The latern is not enchanted right away. You have to manually do it yourself. You can have Xoti still release soul to the Adra and not be affected by the terrible spell resist if you don't enchant the lantern with spell resist after the quest is done.

i understand that im saying that every time ive tried to complete this quest only 1 enchant is actually avaiable depending on the choices i have made. if i suggest we kill someone threshing is available, if i ignore that dialogue option and go straight to suggesting dumping souls into the pillar then spell resist is the only enchant available. perhaps this is a bug with my own game but i am unable to pick between them once i have the material from the adra pillar. i have to pick which one i want well before that in the questline because 1 option is always locked.
Enfys Ellezard May 12, 2018 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Dmdtt:
i understand that im saying that every time ive tried to complete this quest only 1 enchant is actually avaiable depending on the choices i have made. if i suggest we kill someone threshing is available, if i ignore that dialogue option and go straight to suggesting dumping souls into the pillar then spell resist is the only enchant available. perhaps this is a bug with my own game but i am unable to pick between them once i have the material from the adra pillar. i have to pick which one i want well before that in the questline because 1 option is always locked.

Nah that enchantment is pretty much story based, not a bug.
AXC629 May 12, 2018 @ 6:21pm 
Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:
So I decided to Do Xoti's story and let her release the soul to the Adra pillar which gives me an upgrade for Spell Resist Aura.

But here's the problem. The spell resist aura ends up making MY OWN buffs whiff constantly while barely doing anything against enemies. Had Serafen Pain Block my squishy druid? My char just resisted Pain Block! Have Aloth uses Delexity to make spell casting faster? Aloth just resisted his own spell!

I'm about to throw her lantern away now because she's making my life way harder than it should be because my own buffs aren't working. Is this intended?


Xoti's sickle and lantern have been on her 2nd slot all game. she uses better stuff on her first weapon set and she still grabs up those souls and engages in convos when needed. fyi.
Tennmuerti May 18, 2018 @ 2:19am 
So I have a further problem, at some point her Latern's spell resist buff just stayed on my party. Now they have a permanent 10% spell resist buff that's blocking other spells.
Equiping/unequiping her latern and loading/reloading nothing helps. It even overrides her more powerfull veriosn due to faith scaling when she is in the party with it.
Thankfully I had a 2 hour save i could roll back to where the buff wasn't permanent yet.
Last edited by Tennmuerti; May 18, 2018 @ 2:22am
rasabt May 18, 2018 @ 3:05am 
has someone tested if this apllies to the 10% spellresist you can get via skill-tree aswell?
tbh. while it would logicaly make sense to let spellresist apply to all spells, mechanics-wise this is potentialy quite problematic.
jack_of_tears May 18, 2018 @ 3:19am 
Originally posted by __h.stickeye_:
Its just Obsidian humour. I learnt about how funny they are and how they do things like this to be funny. Its just their new approach to developing games, I guess we all have to be rational and not act like 2 yr olds so we dont have a temper tantrum to really appreicate the game.

Wait ... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your character over for completing a quest is considered "funny" and being upset that your character got screwed over is throwing a tantrum? If this is legitimately the company's new philosophy, I'll never buy another game from them and wouldn't expect anyone else too, either.
Last edited by jack_of_tears; May 18, 2018 @ 3:21am
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