Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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No level cap increase with the new DLC? WTF?
Are you ♥♥♥♥ing kidding me with this♥♥♥♥♥♥? Are you even LISTENING to the feedback from your playerbase? You release a DLC centered around combat but you don't offer any way to level up our characters past level 20?
Last edited by Adventuring Through Games; Sep 25, 2018 @ 11:05pm
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TaKo Sep 25, 2018 @ 11:45pm 
just because they listen doesnt mean they will abide

im enjoying the hell out of SSS and dont find myselff wanting for a higher level cap

it would however, be interesting to see new abilities added to the game while keeping the current level cap like they just did with ranger(or how they added new wizard spells for backers with new unique grimoires)
Morrowless Sep 26, 2018 @ 12:04am 
Didn't the lead designer quit working on this gam?
9S Bot Sep 26, 2018 @ 12:13am 
I like they have add more late-game level enemy. But I'm disappointed they only add new abilities for ranger class . ╯-____-)╯~═╩════╩═
I just don't understand WHY they wouldn't increase the level cap. It's not like this is a multiplayer game where they HAVE to worry about balance. Is there plenty of good new loot in this DLC at least?
puppet74 Sep 26, 2018 @ 2:06am 
i dont really get the need to increase lvl cap? games already easier than poe1. why do you want to be even more powerful? At its core the games about story, combat. adding say 4 lvls for this dlc is going to do what for you in combat? not much tbh.
If your addicted to just lvling up go play an mmo

tbh whats more important than more lvls is xp distribution rebalance. You get way to much xp to fast with the amount of content in the game, it should be slowed down so you take more time getting to be really powerful. Right now you get powerful to quick. By increasing lvl cap your just be even more powerful to fast, and the game a be even easier than it already is.
Originally posted by puppet74:
i dont really get the need to increase lvl cap? games already easier than poe1. why do you want to be even more powerful? At its core the games about story, combat. adding say 4 lvls for this dlc is going to do what for you in combat? not much tbh.
If your addicted to just lvling up go play an mmo

tbh whats more important than more lvls is xp distribution rebalance. You get way to much xp to fast with the amount of content in the game, it should be slowed down so you take more time getting to be really powerful. Right now you get powerful to quick. By increasing lvl cap your just be even more powerful to fast, and the game a be even easier than it already is.
I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if it's easier FOR YOU, one of the core aspects of an RPG is leveling up in some form. Stop trying to justify an immensely stupid design decision.
TaurusBully Sep 26, 2018 @ 5:28am 
Their mistake was making a huge game where you can reach it's top lvl almost following a straight critical story path.

So, they should make lvling slower. I mean someone playing *story mode should be able to complete the story by reaching a lower lvl, but if you want to do PoTD means sidequests should be mandatory.

A lot of fans are completionists. I remember when going back through Pillars 1 with expansions, there was not that much sense of accomplishment in doing Twin Elms sidequests.

And that's what games aim most of the times, a sense of accomplishment.
TaurusBully Sep 26, 2018 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by puppet74:
i dont really get the need to increase lvl cap? games already easier than poe1. why do you want to be even more powerful? At its core the games about story, combat. adding say 4 lvls for this dlc is going to do what for you in combat? not much tbh.
If your addicted to just lvling up go play an mmo

tbh whats more important than more lvls is xp distribution rebalance. You get way to much xp to fast with the amount of content in the game, it should be slowed down so you take more time getting to be really powerful. Right now you get powerful to quick. By increasing lvl cap your just be even more powerful to fast, and the game a be even easier than it already is.
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Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
Originally posted by puppet74:
i dont really get the need to increase lvl cap? games already easier than poe1. why do you want to be even more powerful? At its core the games about story, combat. adding say 4 lvls for this dlc is going to do what for you in combat? not much tbh.
If your addicted to just lvling up go play an mmo

tbh whats more important than more lvls is xp distribution rebalance. You get way to much xp to fast with the amount of content in the game, it should be slowed down so you take more time getting to be really powerful. Right now you get powerful to quick. By increasing lvl cap your just be even more powerful to fast, and the game a be even easier than it already is.
I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if it's easier FOR YOU, one of the core aspects of an RPG is leveling up in some form. Stop trying to justify an immensely stupid design decision.


Both a higher lvl cap and a slower xp distribution do not need to be mutually exclusive, don't fight guys...
imminence Sep 26, 2018 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
Originally posted by puppet74:
i dont really get the need to increase lvl cap? games already easier than poe1. why do you want to be even more powerful? At its core the games about story, combat. adding say 4 lvls for this dlc is going to do what for you in combat? not much tbh.
If your addicted to just lvling up go play an mmo

tbh whats more important than more lvls is xp distribution rebalance. You get way to much xp to fast with the amount of content in the game, it should be slowed down so you take more time getting to be really powerful. Right now you get powerful to quick. By increasing lvl cap your just be even more powerful to fast, and the game a be even easier than it already is.
I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if it's easier FOR YOU, one of the core aspects of an RPG is leveling up in some form. Stop trying to justify an immensely stupid design decision.


This!

Without leveling up the characters I could play Lara Croft or the like.

Really:
Everytime the same nonsense. Players trying to justify design-decision which are running exactly against all features a good single-player-RPG MUST have
puppet74 Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:15am 
i gave my opinion, i didnt attack any other peoples, i just berlive that addressing what is causing the issue first is more important. Whats cuasing the problem? xp gain for the amount of content and now with dlcs isnt balanced well. I think that just adding more levels is a quick fix that doesnt really fix anything. With added lvls you will still level to fast. Once you hit like lvl 14 you are prity damn powerful already, going to like level 25 means your going to be so powerful the last 1/4 of the game even for a novice they will cake walk though the game.

If you balance xp for one it will help fix difficutly on potd, and it will mean your uber powerful only towards the end of the game as a good crpg should. You really shouldnt be god like half way though a game , it defeats the purpse of end game. That awsome dragon fight now becomes a joke, adding more levels just adds to this issue.
Last edited by puppet74; Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:16am
Reaver79 Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if it's easier FOR YOU, one of the core aspects of an RPG is leveling up in some form. Stop trying to justify an immensely stupid design decision.
The core aspects of a RPG is story. Leveling aint close to the important part, progress can be achived in many ways, unlocking new abilities, gear, or xp. A choice to add none of those would be wierd, but seems theres plenty of new gear.
TaKo Sep 26, 2018 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
I just don't understand WHY they wouldn't increase the level cap. It's not like this is a multiplayer game where they HAVE to worry about balance.

course they do have to worry about balance, just cause its a single player game it doesnt mean they want us to breeze through content by being uber powerful, which is why a lot of patches were dedicated to making the gamer harder to compensate for us already being too powerful
Cuddly Beast Sep 26, 2018 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
Are you ♥♥♥♥ing kidding me with this♥♥♥♥♥♥? Are you even LISTENING to the feedback from your playerbase? You release a DLC centered around combat but you don't offer any way to level up our characters past level 20?

game is already too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy as it is with the level capped at 20. im at potd with a 2 man party and i can breeze through anything. im actually glad they kept the level cap at 20.
Last edited by Cuddly Beast; Sep 26, 2018 @ 3:12pm
Originally posted by Cuddly Beast:
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
Are you ♥♥♥♥ing kidding me with this♥♥♥♥♥♥? Are you even LISTENING to the feedback from your playerbase? You release a DLC centered around combat but you don't offer any way to level up our characters past level 20?

game is already too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy as it is with the level capped at 20. im at potd with a 2 man party and i can breeze through anything. im actually glad they kept the level cap at 20.
Good for you, here's your "L33T Gam3R" badge. Limiting the player's ability to grow stronger is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to make a game harder anyway. If you don't want to level up, guess what? You don't have to.
Cuddly Beast Sep 27, 2018 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by Broken Fantasy:
Originally posted by Cuddly Beast:

game is already too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy as it is with the level capped at 20. im at potd with a 2 man party and i can breeze through anything. im actually glad they kept the level cap at 20.
Good for you, here's your "L33T Gam3R" badge. Limiting the player's ability to grow stronger is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to make a game harder anyway. If you don't want to level up, guess what? You don't have to.

honestly git gut scrub

a hafway decent gamer can wreck the game with a level 20 party.

it's not the game's fault if you are struggling with a level 20 party. its you!

so rather than complain to have the level cap increase, why dont you improve yourself?
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