I've heard A. The story sucks, B. SJW infested, C. Game world is still empty despite it's size.

[VonCurry]

Sell me this game even though Pillars 1 was meh and it sounds that this time around the story is worse, the game world is still empty (by that I mean extra fluff of characters, not important but side quests, random dialogue inside inns or in the town streets etc, stuff that gives the world life... an example would be literally any NPC in any city...in any of the Baldurs Gate games).

How the ♥♥♥♥ did this game get 9/10 10/10 ratings?

Thank you and I hope I'm overreacting.

[raubrey]

If you are familiar with the phrase,"
Where there is smoke there is fire.."
This is an inferno.

Pillars of Sexuality

includes:

-- LBGT friendly themes, and I do mean friendly.
-- No Ageism - Creepy old men in bathhouses and creeping in your cabin.
-- Not to be confused with herosexual (player decided orientation)
or even where you chose whom to hit on.
-- No Misogyny (Goodbye Durance, Hello Amazon Women's World)
-- Enough token(isms) to take to Vegas.


-- From Obs forum Jan 2018 - on will there be SJW integration:

"The content that they were forced to remove was created by a backer, not Obsidian themselves, so we have no reason to distrust their writing. It also doesn't seem like romance is a major thing in Deadfire, so I doubt that characters will need to discuss their sexuality. "

lolololololol

Sorry. They don't discuss anything.
It's more like:

Hey I'm gay/bi/penguin loving - I had sex with X, Y, Z. I want you too, baby. (paraphrase)

Developed and Supported by...

-- Chronically Offended People

From: Obidian Caves to SJW Demands by Removing Transphobic Joke
http://www.reaxxion.com/7059/obsidian-caves-to-sjw-demands-by-removing-transphobic-joke-from-pillars-of-eternity

to

Wow, Your Bigotry is Showing
https://steamcommunity.com/app/560130/discussions/0/1696048245843311332/
(smart posts and not so smart)


Insight into Obsidian these days.
--Obsidian Writer Forced to Quit by SJWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=LGQgjBSE2xA

-- Obsidian Moderator:
"And my personal favorite, these threads bring out the ignoramuses for easy identification. Just look how hurt they are that <someone else> may feel inclusion. And the internet never forgets."
https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/95630-sjw-integration-in-deadfire/page-2

You're right moderator, neither do gamers.
(whom also might like a little warm & fuzzy inclusion; nix the hate train m'kay?)

Example of Writing:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1392784560
sibilant susurrus -- and why such phrases should be outlawed, a new mini-series

Examples of Combat: I'm old, have bad eyes, bad joints and other parts.
Playing Path of the Damned might be marginally more difficult than making breakfast.

Companion Depth
Non-existent

Pros:
-Character Building
-World
-Story games.

This game is for you if you don't mind being treated as having the intellect of a baboon (really not a fair statement for our simian brothers and sisters) or you're a regular reader of Teen Vogue and feel very mistreated by the world.

The game could be Ok with some tweaks and a few rewrites but given the attitude on the forums and past and current actions from Obsidian...I don't see that happening, much.
Otherwise, Obsidian has not stayed true to its original audience or even PoE 1.

FWIW, I haven't played the game for 250 hours. I leave it running when I fall asleep, which is frequently.

On a personal note: I'm a minority in my own right. And like minorities and non-minorities I hang with, I rather just be known as a person and treated/rewarded/etc. for what I do not whom I sleep with or my gender or ethnicity. To me this game is regressive NOT progressive.

[Booty Jello]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Wyzegy:

Opprinnelig skrevet av thefollowingcharacters:

*Facepalm* No. Also don't use SJW as a term if you're older than 15. Insecure boys care, secure men don't.

Nah dude, you act like a ♥♥♥♥♥ you get called a ♥♥♥♥♥. You act like an SJW you get called an SJW. Now the SJW stuff in this game is fairly minor if we're being honest. There's a flamboyantly gay fish, but he's charming. There's an excess of STRONKWAMEN characters in positions of authority and evil men, but again that's just an annoyance.

100% agree.

[hairyscotsman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av VonCurry:

Sell me this game even though Pillars 1 was meh and it sounds that this time around the story is worse, the game world is still empty (by that I mean extra fluff of characters, not important but side quests, random dialogue inside inns or in the town streets etc, stuff that gives the world life... an example would be literally any NPC in any city...in any of the Baldurs Gate games).

How the ♥♥♥♥ did this game get 9/10 10/10 ratings?

Thank you and I hope I'm overreacting.

Using the word 'infested' in the same sentence as the pejorative use of 'SJW' is not 'overeacting', it's showing you to be a willfully ignorant, hateful piece of trash and incapable of civilized conversation. I strongly suggest deleting the OP.

[Bob3]

Opprinnelig skrevet av thefollowingcharacters:

C. Map feels pretty bad personally. Everything on it, including ship combat, feels like something I would play on a browser or crappy phone game.

Perhaps you're new to CRPG games. The world map is based on the world map from games like fallout, arcanum, and NWN2 storm of zehir to give the freedom of exploration instead of traveling through the boring wilderness areas like in Pillars 1. It's not based on some browser game.

[SDSkinner2011]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Wyzegy:

Nah dude, you act like a ♥♥♥♥♥ you get called a ♥♥♥♥♥. You act like an SJW you get called an SJW. Now the SJW stuff in this game is fairly minor if we're being honest. There's a flamboyantly gay fish, but he's charming. There's an excess of STRONKWAMEN characters in positions of authority and evil men, but again that's just an annoyance.

I suspect shippers are more responsible for the pansexuality then SJWs.

The women are out of place (it looks like a 50-50 split) but not really portrayed morally as any different from the men. The Principi lady is totally insane for example.

[Jekko]

Back to the topic: I advise you to leave this game be for now, come back next year when all DLCs are realeased and see if quality of content/writing/fixed bugs has improved.

[S N E E D]

People are overblowing the SJW stuff. POTD is easy as ♥♥♥♥(unless fighting fampyrs) and game is buggy as hell. Companions are a bit one note.

Character building and the actual combat is great though. Story is decent and there's fairly ample opportunities to roleplay. If you're a loot ♥♥♥♥♥ there are tonnes of interesting items to find.

[djinnxy]

I've noticed maybe 5 sentences out of several thousand that had anything to do with gay or bi so far. The story is fine. It is much like the first one. The reason it got 9 out of 10 is the number of people complaining about it are less than the 1/10% of the content being complained about.

[Roger_Dabbit]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Todd Howard:

People are overblowing the SJW stuff. POTD is easy as ♥♥♥♥(unless fighting fampyrs) and game is buggy as hell. Companions are a bit one note.

Character building and the actual combat is great though. Story is decent and there's fairly ample opportunities to roleplay. If you're a loot ♥♥♥♥♥ there are tonnes of interesting items to find.

Since when did anyone NOT overblow the SJW stuff? It's like the new cool kid thing to do to claim SJW whenever you're uncomfortable with the content of what you're playing/watching/reading/hearing.

"You shouldn't eat nothing but junk food all the time, it's bad for you."

"Get your SJW ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ outta here!"

-_-

[Von Faustien]

Id give the first game a 7 and this a 6 the map and world design is awful with nemnoks dungeon and quest being the only quest an island has that's not a bland 1 room dungeon. The enemy verity is utter ♥♥♥♥, as was already said the over map and ship to ship combat is half baked at best and does nothing but waste time, the main plot is awful and the villains less intresting than thaos from 1 which is impressive actually. They also managed to reduce the red, green, blue endings you see some RPGs boil there choices to into just red and managed to make fallout 4s yes, yes, sarcastic, question diologe srubs id depth and full of option by comparison. At one point you discover a follower has used you to preform murders on a faction you could very well be working for and your options are I forgive you no need to apologize, say nothing and do you want to talk I bet you need a sympathetic ear after your extrajudicial murder spree; confronting her boss is worse with the options being pointing out what he ordered and taking a bribe or staring blankly and the rest of the games no better.

of the npc followers none stand out as intresting and even those carried from the first game feel flatter with Pallegina being relegated to nothing more than a valian cheerleader her conger part from the other faction Maia whose actions and behaviour keep flip flopping between extremes, doting is a clingy child who takes the worst aspects of imoen and the other stock perky rpg followers and cracks them to 11, other than them your options are a completely self obsessed fish man who's character is solely him bragging about awesome being loved by everyone is and how he wants to screw everything and a pirate who's not terrible but who quest thinks asking if he slept with adopted dad s reasonable small talk.

It's worst soulless cashin on the balders gate games but with the bar as low as siege of dragonspire set it that's knot an achievement. If your only here for the gameplay it's worth buying but if you want story, well written characters or diologe above cringy fan fiction than play he classics, buy divinity original sin 2 or get the shadow run games because your not getting that here.

[Brian Sirith]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mr. Nobody:

a pirate who's not terrible but who quest thinks asking if he slept with adopted dad s reasonable small talk.

No, you ask him if he was romantically involved with the person hes looking for before you find out the person he is looking for is a father figure. Serafen clears that up later.

If my friend continues asking me to find Bob, and acts weird and evasive about it... it is reasonable to ask my friend "Was Bob an ex of yours?"

[theflyingdutchman84]

Personally, I find that any use of the term SJW at this point is just puerile and immature. It's a catchall term people use when they want to demonize something without going into detail. Kind of like how the term Communist or Nazi are thrown around. I think its just something the Internet does to any kind of potential discussion really, especially when there's a demographic of people that make selling that kind of rhetoric their bread and butter.

If the game's writing is hamfisted, that's one thing. That's what I took away from Siege of Dragonspear. It wasn't bad, it was just lacking in nuance or subtlety. I'd say if you're unsure, watch a couple videos of a let's play. Get a feel for the game and then take it from there. Better to not ultimately waste your time and money if you genuinely think its not gonna be your cuppa tea. :)

[Cutlass Jack]

You're overreacting. So are many of the responses on this thread about various topics.

[raubrey]

OP - Just look for 10 posts (not reviews), even 5 for how great the story is and wonderful the characters are and how good the combat is. Unless there are a lot of bugs, this is easy to find on a decent game when it is newly released. Good Luck.

[deadsanta]

Gamergate is over, people, it was a stupid 4cha troll session that got out of control, let it die already and ffs stop using "SJW" as a term it's just a meaningless insult now.