Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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This game cries out to be 3D. The 2D and isometric view is just too snobbish
Yes as the title says it needs to be 3d, no exuses, the 2d isometric look is very dated and boring, it is only for snobs who like this kind of thing. The reason games where 2D and isometric in the 90s is because the developers did not have enough horse power under the hood to make it 3D and look good. The game is excellent in other respects, story is good, but combat is a mess with too many confusing icons on screen at a time. The characters are too small in size and not enough thought has gone into the graphics in this game. I suspect its the snobbish factor of playing retro. Believe you me in the 90s people wanted 3D games and we got 2D which was only 4th best, so this going back to 2D is well just stupid.. Yeah i get it its bragging rights, like people say Lps have better sound quality than cds they DO NOT. Again as a person who got his music in the 80s and 90s via lps and cassette tapes, CD is way to go. I did with gusto, this game is like that ,it tries to be LP to be cool but needs to be top quality CD. Now you little fairies will look at at my library and say he has not played it. well I have on my son,'s and friends pc. The imput into the game is great, the charactors are ok, but the graphic are terrible by modern standards, even dragon age orginal graphics are superior to this game and that was over 10 years old, game play is better in Pillar of eternity 2. I did not play the first game i hated it, the graphics was just terrible and that is part of the experience. . Still the game is fun , it is not as superior as dvinity orignal sin 2 well in the graphics departement but in scope its far better. Kept finding myself wishing i could look around the corner, oh hang on, no camera movements like that.
Laatst bewerkt door Mulberry2000; 23 mei 2018 om 15:56
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Inquisition offered an isometric camera angle but it didn't work well or at all in many areas as the game was just not built for it. Thanks EA BIoware. :D
Inquisition's tactical camera angle was a sick joke and clearly tailored for use with a controller.
I wouldnt mind fully 3d stuff, kinda like X-Com, but there is no doubt at all that this game is a lot more pretty than it would have been had they tried to go that route. For this style of game, 2.5d delivers over all a better presentation for your dollar. Now if the game had an infinite budget and manpower behind it, yeah, go the whole hog. But then I could not afford to buy the end result.
The 2D backgrounds help the graphics age better too. Planescape still looks beautiful to me.
Origineel geplaatst door Bricklayer Vandal:
All 3D roleplaying games should be isometrics. Better quaity, less expensive.

There's a reason D:OS 2 is a massive success. It's fully 3D but isometric.
Origineel geplaatst door Big Boom Boom:
Origineel geplaatst door Bricklayer Vandal:
All 3D roleplaying games should be isometrics. Better quaity, less expensive.

There's a reason D:OS 2 is a massive success. It's fully 3D but isometric.
Visuals in the POE games are far superior to the D:OS games though. Only so much they can do with their tiles sets.

Origineel geplaatst door Batbro:
It's a tactical party-based game. Trying to coordinate and position 5 characters (and their pets/summons) is a LOT easier with a top-down or isometric perspective than an over-the-shoulder cam, which is better suited to controlling a SINGLE character.

I'm just assuming that is not what OP meant. I think he meant making it 3D like DOS is, being able to rotate the camera and all that. Not making it 3rd person, which is completely doable, DAO for instance.
Origineel geplaatst door Eelectrica:
Origineel geplaatst door Big Boom Boom:

There's a reason D:OS 2 is a massive success. It's fully 3D but isometric.
Visuals in the POE games are far superior to the D:OS games though. Only so much they can do with their tiles sets.

Your opinion, not mine. D:OS 2 upped the ante and some sceneries are very beautiful, almost like hand painted.
Origineel geplaatst door Eelectrica:
Origineel geplaatst door Big Boom Boom:

There's a reason D:OS 2 is a massive success. It's fully 3D but isometric.
Visuals in the POE games are far superior to the D:OS games though. Only so much they can do with their tiles sets.

No, I can't agree with that. While being well done, just enable zoom in with POE 2. The characters look pretty good because they're 3D, but the 2D background is really ugly if you zoon in more, which is why they limit the zoom so much.
Laatst bewerkt door hyperion; 23 mei 2018 om 17:23
Origineel geplaatst door Batbro:
It's a tactical party-based game. Trying to coordinate and position 5 characters (and their pets/summons) is a LOT easier with a top-down or isometric perspective than an over-the-shoulder cam, which is better suited to controlling a SINGLE character.

You can have a top down view with 3d look at DOS or neverwinter nights or any rpg made after the infinity engine era. A 3d isometric map means you can rotate and change your view point and it would be better
The game looks fantastic, no need for full 3d
3d ain't gonna happen bro, they've invested so much into bringing an old infinity style engine back to life because they were passionate about that unique aesthetic it creates. They've spent time and money creating it with poe1 and further time and more money refining it with poe2. To throw all that away now.... would be like building a house from scratch then knocking it down just cause you don't like the colour of the front door.
Laatst bewerkt door Floid; 23 mei 2018 om 17:35
U must be blind. 2D games are ALWAYS ageing better. Diablo 2, Baldur's Gate saga, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale and... Yep, It's my opinion - Diablo 3. All look great till this day!
So Pillars of Eternity using AWESOME hi res looking background and 3d special effects/characters is perfect combo imo.
Divinity looks great but it's not gonna age as well as PoE
I love this style
This is honestly the best looking game I've ever played, and the beauty of the 2.5d style is that it only costs a fraction of what a current generation fully 3D game would.
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