Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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Why is this game so much better than Tyranny?
Did they just stick the B team on writing Tyranny or what?
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Inconnu May 16, 2018 @ 12:02pm 
Eh, they're pretty even for me. Tyranny had its pros. Both were/are buggy as hell when they first came out, I'll say that much.
Brian Sirith May 16, 2018 @ 12:08pm 
Noooo! This is an amazing game but I love Tyranny! "F- you I am the law!" My top game of all time!
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UR|wRÅR May 16, 2018 @ 12:09pm 
Yes, the team A was writing for PoE1, see the Avellone thread
Cutlass Jack May 16, 2018 @ 12:10pm 
"I love it when a script comes together." -A Team.
Brian Sirith May 16, 2018 @ 12:11pm 
Also writting wise, I do like PoE but the lore is a big behemoth of a mess that -personally- I have stopped trying to understand. I love Tyranny's more practical concerns and no 'chosen one' theme. To say nothing of a clear ending. Take over, make nice with the master, the end. Peace and prosperity. Thank you! And all those little things in Tyranny that made it in the ending... PoED didnt have that. The Tyranny ending was much much better than either PoE
Last edited by Brian Sirith; May 16, 2018 @ 12:18pm
Kai Heilos May 16, 2018 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by UR|wRÅR:
Yes, the team A was writing for PoE1, see the Avellone thread
He probably shouldn't have ragequit then :/

I enjoy both games, though I wish this one had more challenge
Brian Sirith May 16, 2018 @ 12:22pm 
Oh... and the artwork in Tyranny!!! They definetely got the A-team on that! The top team in any game for that matter!
The Badman May 16, 2018 @ 12:25pm 
Tyranny is a middling experimental project. This game is a major release for Obsidian.
Singrave May 16, 2018 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by The Badman:
Tyranny is a middling experimental project. This game is a major release for Obsidian.
this
corisai May 16, 2018 @ 12:28pm 
Better in what?

Story-wise PoE2 much worse then Tyranny.

And opposite in gameplay (but only because Tyranny was so short, if it will be around 50-60 hours like PoE2 it will be better into everything over PoE2). IMHO ofk.
Last edited by corisai; May 16, 2018 @ 12:33pm
Avo May 16, 2018 @ 12:33pm 
I like all 3 games very much, but Tyranny is my favorite. I just got so immersed in that, and found everything interesting. :)
LordBlade May 16, 2018 @ 12:34pm 
I played through Tyranny when it was first launched. I've heard that they MASSIVELY improved the storyline and ending for the game since then.

I just remember being so pissed off at the game after I was being loyal to the Overlord, bringing law and order to the land, exposing traitors and malcontents... and then suddenly out of the blue I rise up in rebellion against them. No warning, no reasoning, no explanations. Just did a complete 180 on my playthrough to that point. And that really killed it for me.

I was playing through being Soundwave, and suddenly I end up being Starscream.
Now, if I was actively working to my own ends the whole time, and had been choosing to build up power to rebel, that might have made sense. But I wasn't. I was following my orders and being loyal. So the complete switch just struck me as stupid and lazy writing.

I've not gone back, but I'm told you now have the option to actually be loyal, and make some actual decisions without the game just picking for you? If so, it might not be so bad. But that first playthrough was just terrible.
Brian Sirith May 16, 2018 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by LordBlade:
I played through Tyranny when it was first launched. I've heard that they MASSIVELY improved the storyline and ending for the game since then.

I just remember being so pissed off at the game after I was being loyal to the Overlord, bringing law and order to the land, exposing traitors and malcontents... and then suddenly out of the blue I rise up in rebellion against them. No warning, no reasoning, no explanations. Just did a complete 180 on my playthrough to that point. And that really killed it for me.

I was playing through being Soundwave, and suddenly I end up being Starscream.
Now, if I was actively working to my own ends the whole time, and had been choosing to build up power to rebel, that might have made sense. But I wasn't. I was following my orders and being loyal. So the complete switch just struck me as stupid and lazy writing.

I've not gone back, but I'm told you now have the option to actually be loyal, and make some actual decisions without the game just picking for you? If so, it might not be so bad. But that first playthrough was just terrible.

Yes. You can be loyal and you shout it from the spire for the whole land to hear. My second playthrough with the same character was so much better just cause they added a loyal to Kyros ending.
Last edited by Brian Sirith; May 16, 2018 @ 12:41pm
corisai May 16, 2018 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by LordBlade:
So the complete switch just struck me as stupid and lazy writing.

And same lazy writting here, in PoE2.

We're running to catch Eotas... to speak with him. All the time. Never ever try to search for some weapon or magic that can stand against this adra colossus, no speaking is enough (c).

And one ending to annoy them all (c).

P.S. And doing this in company of Eotas fanatics... Crazy enough to believe in false god even knowing that gods are fake (Eder) or this stupid priestess (Xoti).

How I should search for murderous maniac? Ofk in company of his best friends! >_<
Last edited by corisai; May 16, 2018 @ 12:40pm
Josch May 16, 2018 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by LordBlade:
I played through Tyranny when it was first launched. I've heard that they MASSIVELY improved the storyline and ending for the game since then.

I just remember being so pissed off at the game after I was being loyal to the Overlord, bringing law and order to the land, exposing traitors and malcontents... and then suddenly out of the blue I rise up in rebellion against them. No warning, no reasoning, no explanations. Just did a complete 180 on my playthrough to that point. And that really killed it for me.

I was playing through being Soundwave, and suddenly I end up being Starscream.
Now, if I was actively working to my own ends the whole time, and had been choosing to build up power to rebel, that might have made sense. But I wasn't. I was following my orders and being loyal. So the complete switch just struck me as stupid and lazy writing.

I've not gone back, but I'm told you now have the option to actually be loyal, and make some actual decisions without the game just picking for you? If so, it might not be so bad. But that first playthrough was just terrible.

This is what dampened my enjoyment as well. I really liked the intitial premise of the setting and story, but it all fell flat in the end, because your choices didn't matter at all.
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