Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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Slayer Seraph Jun 27, 2019 @ 12:28pm
Did they ever fix the main story/quest?
I didn't want to get into spoilers too much but I heard the main story is overall terrible, and also very short and has a really bad ending that made fans raise a big uproar.
I wanted to know if the devs ever addressed and fixed that.
I heard similar thing happened in DOS2 and deve patched it out.
I am trying to make my mind between DOS2, POE2 and PFK.
I finished POE1 few days ago with 300 hours in. I was overall rather disappointed with the story, main plot and narrative, the unlikable companions and badly written characters.

I especially dislike the whole anti-god-rant in the end.

I want to try PoE2 but heard the companions and main story and writing is every worse now...
Thank you
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Yaldabaoth Jun 27, 2019 @ 1:20pm 
If you were disappointed with Poe1's story and characters, you will definitely not like them in 2. Both are even weaker than in 1.
hairyscotsman Jun 28, 2019 @ 12:52am 
DLC's are good. Lots of good side quests
Slayer Seraph Jun 28, 2019 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by hairyscotsman:
DLC's are good. Lots of good side quests
But it sounds like they never fixed or changed the main story, or the controversially bad ending and so on?

TBH I am trying to choose between, poe2 pfk and dos2 (or some other RPG).
POE2 has the best artstyle and graphics.
DOS2 seems to have good gameplay (minus the RNG /diablo loot and stuff)
and PFK sounds somewhere in between.
Not sure how good the story, characters and companions are on all 3 (sounds rather below average from all my research and talking to players).


I'm very open minded but I need good plot, story drive, premise, interesting setting and world, great writing and great characters and companions - to fully enjoy a game and feel motivated to keep playing.
Last edited by Slayer Seraph; Jun 28, 2019 @ 1:36am
Originally posted by Ransom Seraph:
I wanted to know if the devs ever addressed and fixed that.
There is no need to do that.
Daidre Jun 28, 2019 @ 3:27am 
in short, the whole main plot is anti-god rant.

And it is still horrible, they patched in couple of dialogues but critical path is still 3 quests long with all major events represented by pictures with badly written and badly voiced text being read to you.

Game has only 7 companions with tiny personal quests and roster is very... inclusive. Be preprepared to tons of "snarky" sex comments. And couple of companions is utterly cringeworthy (depends on taste).

On pros side setting is nice, world is beautiful, some secondary quests has genuinely good writing and subplots. And 1st and 3rd DLC are good enough to compensate for main game shortcomings.

Never played DoS2, but P:K for me is much better game with 5x longer main story with real C&C, proper dungeons and 3x more companion content.
Last edited by Daidre; Jun 28, 2019 @ 3:32am
hairyscotsman Jun 28, 2019 @ 5:17am 
Originally posted by Daidre:
in short, the whole main plot is anti-god rant.

And it is still horrible, they patched in couple of dialogues but critical path is still 3 quests long with all major events represented by pictures with badly written and badly voiced text being read to you.

Game has only 7 companions with tiny personal quests and roster is very... inclusive. Be preprepared to tons of "snarky" sex comments. And couple of companions is utterly cringeworthy (depends on taste).

On pros side setting is nice, world is beautiful, some secondary quests has genuinely good writing and subplots. And 1st and 3rd DLC are good enough to compensate for main game shortcomings.

Never played DoS2, but P:K for me is much better game with 5x longer main story with real C&C, proper dungeons and 3x more companion content.

Pathfinder clunky RNG and unpatchable classes ruined P:K for me.
Daidre Jun 28, 2019 @ 5:47am 
There is mod that allows take 10(20) on rolls for people like you.
Last edited by Daidre; Jun 28, 2019 @ 5:48am
Slayer Seraph Jun 28, 2019 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by hairyscotsman:
Originally posted by Daidre:
in short, the whole main plot is anti-god rant.

And it is still horrible, they patched in couple of dialogues but critical path is still 3 quests long with all major events represented by pictures with badly written and badly voiced text being read to you.

Game has only 7 companions with tiny personal quests and roster is very... inclusive. Be preprepared to tons of "snarky" sex comments. And couple of companions is utterly cringeworthy (depends on taste).

On pros side setting is nice, world is beautiful, some secondary quests has genuinely good writing and subplots. And 1st and 3rd DLC are good enough to compensate for main game shortcomings.

Never played DoS2, but P:K for me is much better game with 5x longer main story with real C&C, proper dungeons and 3x more companion content.

Pathfinder clunky RNG and unpatchable classes ruined P:K for me.
What does "unpatchable classes mean? And what clunky RNG?


Originally posted by Daidre:
in short, the whole main plot is anti-god rant.

And it is still horrible, they patched in couple of dialogues but critical path is still 3 quests long with all major events represented by pictures with badly written and badly voiced text being read to you.

Game has only 7 companions with tiny personal quests and roster is very... inclusive. Be preprepared to tons of "snarky" sex comments. And couple of companions is utterly cringeworthy (depends on taste).

On pros side setting is nice, world is beautiful, some secondary quests has genuinely good writing and subplots. And 1st and 3rd DLC are good enough to compensate for main game shortcomings.

Never played DoS2, but P:K for me is much better game with 5x longer main story with real C&C, proper dungeons and 3x more companion content.
Sounds exactly like POE1 only worsened and even more over-done. (Seriously every freaking companion is cynical and snarky as hell).
Thank you for the analysis.
Main story, writing and Characters sounds rather terrible. Huge turn off for me.
I agree that visually POE2 looks like the best CRPG to date. The environment seem unique and well drawn and the graphics upgrade is massive (however I hear the performance optimization is even worse now - Unity is a terrible engine).

Are these DLCs connected and/or complete / fix the main story?
White March felt mostly seperated in the last game.


Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:
If you were disappointed with Poe1's story and characters, you will definitely not like them in 2. Both are even weaker than in 1.
Thank you. So what I gathered so far is true... I hear that a lot.

Unfortunately an RPG with bad characters and story to me - is like an Action Game with bad combat and controls.
Last edited by Slayer Seraph; Jun 28, 2019 @ 5:56am
Daidre Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:12am 
DLC for Deadfire a separate high-lvl stories connected to main plot only by theme. They have a fairly nice balance of dialogue/adventure and similar to White March (my personal fav in whole PoE content) in this department. Interesting combat, big dungeons and lot less pretentious talk everywhere.

Deadfire is definitely prettiest game from all nu-RPG, but whether it will run well, or even decently is always big question.
Even with 1,5k+ $-worth rig there is always a chance to end up with 15 fps in some combat encounters after couple hours of play. P:K is not so innocent here too, both games have similar Unity Engine implementation and random hardware problems.

I appreciate this game most for combat, itemisation and class systems, but I am a kind of player who could kick out most annoying companions and enjoy adventure (with fair amount of text skipping) with mercs.
Last edited by Daidre; Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:13am
psychotron666 Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:12am 
Bad characters and story is subjective. Personally I love the story and characters in this game.

Of what you're looking for in an Rpg, it's either this or pathfinder that you want. Dos 2 doesn't have any of those things. Dialogue is almost non existent in dos 2, especially from you (it's all like "tell the guy that he's a ♥♥♥♥" or "ask him for the location of the objective" for your dialogue options), there's very little story substance, and it's mostly just a goofy fun combat Rpg with a hub town surrounded by generic side quests.

I haven't played pathfinder though, but I heard its more in this style of game, but I also heard the game isn't "complete" yet but keeps getting updated into a more playable state.

The dlc are all connected to the main game, one dlc even offers an alternative ending for the main story of the game. Though one dlc is less story focused, and mostly just arena fights with unique mechanics. The other two dlc are amazing though.
Daidre Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:28am 
I want to strangle somebody every time I read how Xoti opens her big dark eyes, how prettily her cheek flash, how she pants and shudders, how... damn I don't relive this nightmare ever again.

Together with Teheku and Serafen recounting their sexual adventures in all possible positions and combinations every time they open mouths it makes long-lasting impression.

Add to it strong patriotic women aka Pallegina + Maya for 5/7 possible companions.

Cover it with generous layer of writer's attempts to appear smart and funny (not very successful) and result would take very special taste to genuinely enjoy this mix.
Last edited by Daidre; Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:32am
Slayer Seraph Jun 28, 2019 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Daidre:
I want to strangle somebody every time I read how Xoti opens her big dark eyes, how prettily her cheek flash, how she pants and shudders, how... damn I don't relive this nightmare ever again.

Together with Teheku and Serafen recounting their sexual adventures in all possible positions and combinations every time they open mouths it makes long-lasting impression.

Add to it strong patriotic women aka Pallegina + Maya for 5/7 possible companions.

Cover it with generous layer of writer's attempts to appear smart and funny (not very successful) and result would take very special taste to genuinely enjoy this mix.
Thank you for the feedback. Finally sometime with a similar mindset. Seems we had the same issues with the games - it sounds like poe1 all over again only worse.

Think I might skip POE2 altogether.
Gift Jun 29, 2019 @ 12:13am 
Originally posted by Ransom Seraph:
I didn't want to get into spoilers too much but I heard the main story is overall terrible, and also very short and has a really bad ending that made fans raise a big uproar.
I wanted to know if the devs ever addressed and fixed that.
I heard similar thing happened in DOS2 and deve patched it out.
I am trying to make my mind between DOS2, POE2 and PFK.
I finished POE1 few days ago with 300 hours in. I was overall rather disappointed with the story, main plot and narrative, the unlikable companions and badly written characters.

I especially dislike the whole anti-god-rant in the end.

I want to try PoE2 but heard the companions and main story and writing is every worse now...
Thank you

Find my review on my profile. POE2 is not worth it for the story. You play it if you enjoy RTWP combat. It's the most liked negative review on steam.
Last edited by Gift; Jun 29, 2019 @ 12:13am
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