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Agamemnus Nov 5, 2018 @ 11:42pm
Kill or Capture an enemy agent mission -- knocked out, but can't capture?
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I did wait a few turns. Did the agent die or something? I never tripped any alarm. Just knocked him out.
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bilsantu Nov 6, 2018 @ 1:43am 
Do you mean the red turn count indicator that appears above taken down enemy agents?
Aethrys Nov 6, 2018 @ 1:44am 
That's a bleedout timer. You need to stabilize downed agents after knocking them out. Either a different agent the same turn or the same agent the next turn.
Cutlass Jack Nov 6, 2018 @ 4:39am 
Once you knock them out, stabilize them so they dont bleed to death. Then pick up the enemy agent and manually carry him over your shoulder to the extraction point. If he extracts with your agents, he's captured.

If you wait a few turns without stabilizing, they bleed to death. Once dead you can't pick them up anymore. Only Agents bleed when you use Takedown. Soldiers/cops/civilians are just knocked out.
Justiciar- Nov 6, 2018 @ 8:21am 
How do you knock out enemy agents without losing concealment? I have to use a point-blank silenced pistol shot every time and it only just barely beats their max HP in damage.
LordRedStone Nov 6, 2018 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Ĵ∪s†iℭaℜ:
How do you knock out enemy agents without losing concealment? I have to use a point-blank silenced pistol shot every time and it only just barely beats their max HP in damage.
For early in the game: The survivor perk adds 20 HP which is huge and allows you to knock out most agents with this agent.
For later in the game: Drug everyone with every available compound you find.
LordRedStone Nov 6, 2018 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Once you knock them out, stabilize them so they dont bleed to death. Then pick up the enemy agent and manually carry him over your shoulder to the extraction point. If he extracts with your agents, he's captured.

Keep in mind you can not capture some story-related agents which you have to kill - this is probably not the case here when the mission says "capture".

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Only Agents bleed when you use Takedown. Soldiers/cops/civilians are just knocked out.

As far as I know, you are going for a kill when fighting soldiers and cops. It is only mentioned specifically for civilians that they are not hurt, i.e. just knocked out.
Does not make a huge gameplay difference, but a roleplaying difference. I always imagine I silently take down ( = just knocking out) police and civilians (who are just doing their busywork and it's not their fault I have a covert operation there) while going hard on the actual "bad guys". Even in a firefight I try to use takedown on the police officers because my agents are the good ones :D
Cutlass Jack Nov 6, 2018 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Ĵ∪s†iℭaℜ:
How do you knock out enemy agents without losing concealment? I have to use a point-blank silenced pistol shot every time and it only just barely beats their max HP in damage.

First you need to have more HP than the enemy agent to attempt a takedown. Second all you have to do is move your agent behind them before you do the takedown so you dont enter their red cone.

Not that different from how you approach them for a point blank pistol shot.

if you have an agent with the 'Actor' talent, then its even easier. You can take them down from any direction without breaking concealment. (Obviously assuming you're not in view of someone else)
Agamemnus Nov 6, 2018 @ 8:41pm 
Thanks guys. I don't think this one was story-related. Unfortunately I almost have to restart, but it's all good...
John Nov 8, 2018 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Once you knock them out, stabilize them so they dont bleed to death. Then pick up the enemy agent and manually carry him over your shoulder to the extraction point. If he extracts with your agents, he's captured.

If you wait a few turns without stabilizing, they bleed to death. Once dead you can't pick them up anymore. Only Agents bleed when you use Takedown. Soldiers/cops/civilians are just knocked out.
Fuzzy466 Nov 9, 2018 @ 5:09pm 
Most evacs take around 3 turns. Bleed out last around 5 so if you're in hurry you can just pick them up and run.

I've given up trying to capture them unless I know I've cleared out all of map and even then only if I can knock them out.

From when you first start playin you'll notice that game won't let you melee kill other agents but as game progresses you might find this changes.
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Date Posted: Nov 5, 2018 @ 11:42pm
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